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Help are these apps fake
- Thread starter noxxtar
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No x 4.
If you want your device to act a little snappier, the best way to go about it is to tinker with the kernel settings and that requires root.
As far as apps that claim performance, no.
See this for an excellent read:
http://androidforums.com/threads/pu...k-killers-ram-optimizers-and-the-like.896663/
If you want your device to act a little snappier, the best way to go about it is to tinker with the kernel settings and that requires root.
As far as apps that claim performance, no.
See this for an excellent read:
http://androidforums.com/threads/pu...k-killers-ram-optimizers-and-the-like.896663/
dude dude dude these arent ram cleaners and nothing similar to du battery booster. and please stop dragging that thread because i click it everytime and ive read it like 3 times already.
was just wondering,, and btw what kernel settings? could you tell me some? what apps can do it? kernel tuner?
was just wondering,, and btw what kernel settings? could you tell me some? what apps can do it? kernel tuner?
DirtyDee
Android Expert
They certainly look similar, and claim to do the same thing. So what phone so you have?
Then you should have grasped by now that overriding Android's built-in resource management is more often than not counter-productive. Any app that claims performance improvements by "freeing up RAM", for example, is pure snake oil.
Other tweaks, like adjusting the OOM thresholds, are purely subjective - a setting may work well for a device running a demanding game, but will wreak havoc when the device returns to normal multitasking use. The defaults are chosen for a reason - balance.
A physical swap file is similar; it works, but the apparent gains are countered by the fact that a physical microSD card is magnitudes slower in r/w performance over internal memory.
Most custom (third-party) kernels allow a choice of CPU governor, I/O scheduler, frequency steps, overclocking, under/over-volting, OOM adjustments, plus an almost limitless variety of tweaks gleaned from the Android developer community. Note that stock (OEM) kernels rarely, if ever, allow modification to operating parameters.
That, and CPU Tuner, SetCPU, ExTweaker etc.... many are dependant on specific kernels.
Back in the day, I had a Samsung Galaxy S2 that ran (when needed for gaming) at 1.5GHz yet spent most of its time @ 200Mhz undervolted by 0.75V. It took days of testing, and much rebooting to recovery when things went pear-shaped. but the result was a rock-solid device that performed way beyond the stock spec yet lasted three days on a single charge.
TL
RBe very wary when venturing into the world of kernel tweaking.... it's quite possible to greatly increase performance, but you risk losing a great part of your life in the process. OTOH, you learn so much more about how your particular device behaves under various conditions.
The thread in question definitely discusses OOM apps and what they're about.
ok, so kernel settings decrease lifespan or what? all i did was to link cores and to set cpu governor to performance. those look ok to me. its so irritating that this crap has such weak load times, its loads sooo hard but when in game works perfect. i had a s2 mini and i know the feel about bricking your device 4 times trying to do something than feeling the happines of having it back safe. this stuff with cyanogenmod gave me headaches but when i managed to do it i was happy and i was yelling woohoo! look dude this thing had 2.3.6 (back then there wasnt even 4.0) and after years its 4.3.3. the apps were showing on the market and device was 100% mine. control all over. i think the settings i made are nothing more but ebough. not going deeper. first see what are you doing. if i mess up ive got phoenix suit with me so its ok.
Avoid kernel tweaks that increase heat - heat is not your friend.
Assume that regardless of what anyone says, overclocking anything carries a reliability and / or lifetime risk.
Changing OOM settings is safe, changing governors to those already supported by your stock kernel are generally safe - but watch out for heat during use.
Assume that regardless of what anyone says, overclocking anything carries a reliability and / or lifetime risk.
Changing OOM settings is safe, changing governors to those already supported by your stock kernel are generally safe - but watch out for heat during use.
heat by hand or temp of the cpu? mine is normally at 36-35 by algorithm with governor at performance and not overclockrd just linked all cores and i just set the minimum freq at 600 120 being default.
i know this getting away with the thread, but what oom settings? build.prop or something? as mentioned in the thread tagged by mike ram manager is a oom thingy, yet its bad.
i know this getting away with the thread, but what oom settings? build.prop or something? as mentioned in the thread tagged by mike ram manager is a oom thingy, yet its bad.
Stay out of build.prop - you're not ready and 99.9% of the people who think they are, aren't.
There's nothing you care about in build.prop.
The files you listed in the OP go from simple OOM setters (good, no problem) to OOM setter with task killer, adding a swap area, and a different combo pack (Root Booster).
You like Root Booster and Speed Up Swap.
Root Booster - auto-hibernates (like Greenify, and as mentioned in the thread, that's not a problem if you need it), automatically adjusts the VMheapsize (ok, if your phone doesn't get unstable and you like it, fine, just have a nandroid backup to cover yourself), and a variable CPU governor (fine, provided it doesn't leave you with your phone heating - you said no problem there).
Speed Up Swap - ummm. Adding swap increases multitasking space. The only speed up is going to come from not reloading apps. But it's doing that by changing the fast ram to include slower storage - so what it means to be faster is really a matter of point of view.
If you use the Root Booster battery saver that puts things into hibernation.
If you use Speed Up Swap, that's changing your memory management to NOT put things into hibernation.
If you use both at the same time, that's schizophrenic.
Are you using both of those functions at once?
There's nothing you care about in build.prop.
The files you listed in the OP go from simple OOM setters (good, no problem) to OOM setter with task killer, adding a swap area, and a different combo pack (Root Booster).
You like Root Booster and Speed Up Swap.
Root Booster - auto-hibernates (like Greenify, and as mentioned in the thread, that's not a problem if you need it), automatically adjusts the VMheapsize (ok, if your phone doesn't get unstable and you like it, fine, just have a nandroid backup to cover yourself), and a variable CPU governor (fine, provided it doesn't leave you with your phone heating - you said no problem there).
Speed Up Swap - ummm. Adding swap increases multitasking space. The only speed up is going to come from not reloading apps. But it's doing that by changing the fast ram to include slower storage - so what it means to be faster is really a matter of point of view.
If you use the Root Booster battery saver that puts things into hibernation.
If you use Speed Up Swap, that's changing your memory management to NOT put things into hibernation.
If you use both at the same time, that's schizophrenic.
Are you using both of those functions at once?
In that case, choose whichever function floats your boat the most.
If you're not really having ram/multitasking issues, stick with just the Root Booster.
By reading the descriptions carefully. Those apps state pretty clearly what they do in the fine print.
Your question is more, why did Mike say what he did, yeah?
You have to ask him, but with an OOM manager that's not clear in the description what the options are, an OOM manager with a task killer, and a suggestion that you were using two schizophrenically (that's how your first post read to me), I'm not surprised that his first reaction was to go back to square one.
If Mike didn't say it first, I probably would have.
In your shoes, I'd bookmark @Slug's help - on a number of points I'm repeating what he said. He said things more precisely - as you get used to this area of modification you're going to want to come back and review what he's said, probably more than once.
He's teaching fundamentals, Mike and I have just transient comments good only for the scope of those apps.
Schizophrenia in humans is a serious condition with deep issues for the sufferer and family, and not a small thing. It's a catch term to describe a problem with signal timing between the two brain hemispheres across the corpus callosum.
It's a serious term to borrow for software but at the root level, the shoe fits. Except unlike people and in the case of software, there's a cure - don't do that.
The short answer to your question is no.
ok. im crazy. this world is mine. i want that i get that. 100% accurate of me.
ok i just asked. why didnt you say no in the first place? and i dont have to agree with everything you guys say. because i'd be too plain and simple: yea yea sure. i say the negative so i could get some true arguments.
these apps were different compared to what u told the people, so why not make a thread even about this?
and how was i supposed to know they do 2 separate stuff? im not expert or something jeez.
so im breaking the balance right now. oh this is too complicated i want that i get it but the rest die, i revive the things that died but the rest go back to normal and i advanced with 0.
i hate this.
ok i just asked. why didnt you say no in the first place? and i dont have to agree with everything you guys say. because i'd be too plain and simple: yea yea sure. i say the negative so i could get some true arguments.
these apps were different compared to what u told the people, so why not make a thread even about this?
and how was i supposed to know they do 2 separate stuff? im not expert or something jeez.
so im breaking the balance right now. oh this is too complicated i want that i get it but the rest die, i revive the things that died but the rest go back to normal and i advanced with 0.
i hate this.
Honestly I don't follow you here.
I understand that you're unhappy about something and you want me to answer differently or something.
You asked questions, we asked questions about your questions and then gave answers with the best explanations we know how.
Not sure what the problem is.
Is there a problem?
nope. thanks. im done with the research area. im gonna act like in the first days i was having a phone. undoing settings ive done. and yes im mad becajse i got nowhere and ive put a lot of time testing stuff out and caring about everything but its over. imma give 0 f little wordy about android and imma enjoy the device. imma ask something if ive got real problems.
I thought you liked Root Booster.
OK, I'm confused.
Anyway, enjoy your phone!
PS - did you think I called you schizophrenic or something?? Because I certainly didn't. Drop me a line if you feel I did something wrong.
OK, I'm confused.
Anyway, enjoy your phone!
PS - did you think I called you schizophrenic or something?? Because I certainly didn't. Drop me a line if you feel I did something wrong.
its the only one i keep. and btw yes i did then i remembered about my friends calling me a d word head and then laughing and then i remembered a thing called sarcasm. and even if you meant it or not i didnt take it seriously at all and thats happening everytime.
edit the only one i keep i mean app
and btw yes i did then i remembered about my friends calling me a d word head and then laughing and then i remembered a thing called sarcasm. and even if you meant it or not i didnt take it seriously at all and thats happening everytime.edit the only one i keep i mean app