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At&t says T-mobile xan keep pricing!!!

Its not enough proof that t-mobile prices will continue after the buyout is complete and as i said in another topic that the buyout may be complete before the 12 months are up.

Then it will be new contract new phone and high priced plan even if the sprint is cdma t-mobile would be better off being bought out by sprint.
 
Its not enough proof that t-mobile prices will continue after the buyout is complete and as i said in another topic that the buyout may be complete before the 12 months are up.

Then it will be new contract new phone and high priced plan even if the sprint is cdma t-mobile would be better off being bought out by sprint.


Negative much
 
No response to this WOW now you get better coverage and same plans

AT&T grandfathering plans from the acquired company is not really a surprise, nor a business practice never seen before...especially given that there was a tentative statement in an article earlier in the week, hinting that T-Mo pricing structures would stay in tact.

Better coverage will be relative...for me, "if" 3G is removed from the 1700 band, in favor of "LTE only" (per AT&T statement), I'll suffer from weak 850/1900 band coverage at my work site. T-Mo is the "only" carrier which gets good reception inside the building.
 
AT&T grandfathering plans from the acquired company is not really a surprise, nor a business practice never seen before...especially given that there was a tentative statement in an article earlier in the week, hinting that T-Mo pricing structures would stay in tact.

Better coverage will be relative...for me, "if" 3G is removed from the 1700 band, in favor of "LTE only" (per AT&T statement), I'll suffer from weak 850/1900 band coverage at my work site. T-Mo is the "only" carrier which gets good reception inside the building.


Actually if you look at the LG G2X that's not the case. Also I posted this because all the tmobile people crapping their pants that rates were going up and now ATT says now you can keep your plans
 
Actually if you look at the LG G2X that's not the case....


What is not the case with that phone? Because its pentaband? That's all well and good but if AT&T gets rid of HSPA/HSPA+ on the 1700 band, reception will suffer in areas where AT&T has weak coverage. I take no comfort in solid signal with Edge speeds.
 
What is not the case with that phone? Because its pentaband? That's all well and good but if AT&T gets rid of HSPA/HSPA+ on the 1700 band, reception will suffer in areas where AT&T has weak coverage. I take no comfort in solid signal with Edge speeds.


That phone shows it will use the 1700 for aws/ umts
 
That phone shows it will use the 1700 for aws/ umts

Ok, but again, "IF" AT&T is planning to do away with UMTS/AWS on the 1700 band, in order to deploy "only LTE" on 1700:

Confirmed: AT&T wants to use T-Mobile's AWS spectrum for LTE buildout -- Engadget


"Flipping through the slide deck accompanying a hastily-arranged press conference this morning to talk up AT&T's planned acquisition of T-Mobile USA, it's now clear that the company is interested in augmenting its 700MHz LTE spectrum with T-Mobile's 1700MHz AWS airwaves -- a move that it says would help it deploy LTE to 95 percent of the American population. AWS is currently used by T-Mobile for its 3G services, but running LTE there isn't without precedent -- that's where MetroPCS is already set up, so there's some potential for consumer hardware and infrastructure synergy there. For T-Mobile customers, that means that the repurposed AWS spectrum will eventually leave them without 1700MHz HSPA+, rendering the carrier's current line of 3G / 4G phones stuck on 2G; AT&T's recognizing that there'll be an equipment swap required eventually, but that's not really a concern for at least a year (assuming the deal goes through)."


... then if you are in an area where the 1700 band is the only band which gets good reception, then you will see a service degradation when using the 850/1900 bands. Again, this is the case where I work, and this is a case where "improved coverage" will not be achieved...at least not on 3G/HSPA.

My AT&T phone struggles to keep 1-2 bars, where my T-Mo phone keeps 4-5. I already have a T-Mo UMTS phone "which also has AT&T's 850", so I don't need to wait for the G2x to know that without the 1700 band, my phone is about useless on T-Mo-AT&T.
 
Ok what Facts have you read ? This is the CEO talking and last I checked VZW and ATT two different companies

Look in other forums you will find more on the AT&T t-mobile buyout since all t-mobile customers will have to get AT&T phones after the buyout is complete AT&T has no plan to let them t-mobile customers keep there price plan and not give there already AT&T customers the same option.

AT&T and VZW are more alike then you think there in it for money not customers do you for 1 min. think AT&T or VZW gives two ****s about there customers the answer is no they only care about the money you pay them so in a way there the same.

And when VZW took alltell it was 6 months and the switch was done for everyone alltell user service went to hell and the only way to fix it was new 2 year and a new VZW phone but not till your alltell account was up which i see coming with AT&T t-mobile.
 
I'm telling you what I have read on ATT and tmobile site about the acquisition. I don't care what forums say. I also am telling you what ATT CEO says. Also telling you what the two phones that are coming out with the Pentaband how the bands will work ala the fcc filings. I don't do speculations and what if
 
I was the one who told everyone that hsupa update was coming April 1st everyone said I was a kool aid drinker. Now its confirmed by ATT its coming. I was the one who said that after march 31st a lot of backhaul would go live as well and that has come to be stated by ATT as well. I was also the one who had the launch dates for the inspire and the atrix correct. So my track record with ATT knowledge pretty good ;)
 
The CEOs from both sides have to put a good face on it. I'd rather see facts and accounting from the CFOs.
My feeling is that this is going to be a kludge from start to finish. I just asked about voice in another forum, and they haven't even got to voice over LTE. Yet Verizon's rolling LTE out, and now ATT wants to.

There is a lot of hysteria and quite a few PO'd people. That's both TMO and ATT fault.
There were many questions that needed to be answered besides "Oh now I can get the Iphone."
Contracts will be spelled out, but there are non-contract people also. They finished the contract and are month to month; they switched to a non-subsidized plan; they are flexpay.

There are no facts of any kind about wifi service, no facts about those who prefer to buy unlocked phones, nothing for voice and text only customers.
Most people are complaining about customer service, the rest - what happens to THEIR PHONE, THEIR DATA. They don't want to hear about tiered pricing.

I'm faulting both sides - TMO knows its customers, and I'm sure ATT knows theirs.
Why wasn't more addressed when the announcement came out?

Since both are GSM, voice and text should be the same - but it hasn't been mentioned. There's those of us who don't give a damn about data speed. It doesn't have to be lightning fast.

I'll stay as long as I can, then see what I can do with ATT. I'm no contract, by choice. I don't want to subsidize someone's cell phone. I'll take my SGS4G with me, too.

And for disinterested source, I'll go read Canadian news.
 
The CEOs from both sides have to put a good face on it. I'd rather see facts and accounting from the CFOs.
My feeling is that this is going to be a kludge from start to finish. I just asked about voice in another forum, and they haven't even got to voice over LTE. Yet Verizon's rolling LTE out, and now ATT wants to.

There is a lot of hysteria and quite a few PO'd people. That's both TMO and ATT fault.
There were many questions that needed to be answered besides "Oh now I can get the Iphone."
Contracts will be spelled out, but there are non-contract people also. They finished the contract and are month to month; they switched to a non-subsidized plan; they are flexpay.

There are no facts of any kind about wifi service, no facts about those who prefer to buy unlocked phones, nothing for voice and text only customers.
Most people are complaining about customer service, the rest - what happens to THEIR PHONE, THEIR DATA. They don't want to hear about tiered pricing.

I'm faulting both sides - TMO knows its customers, and I'm sure ATT knows theirs.
Why wasn't more addressed when the announcement came out?

Since both are GSM, voice and text should be the same - but it hasn't been mentioned. There's those of us who don't give a damn about data speed. It doesn't have to be lightning fast.

I'll stay as long as I can, then see what I can do with ATT. I'm no contract, by choice. I don't want to subsidize someone's cell phone. I'll take my SGS4G with me, too.

And for disinterested source, I'll go read Canadian news.


None of.those facts will come.out till it is closer to being approved. Both companies have to see what is requested of them.first and then see what shakes out. That's why all these endless speculations are pointless
 
Ok, but again, "IF" AT&T is planning to do away with UMTS/AWS on the 1700 band, in order to deploy "only LTE" on 1700:

Confirmed: AT&T wants to use T-Mobile's AWS spectrum for LTE buildout -- Engadget


"Flipping through the slide deck accompanying a hastily-arranged press conference this morning to talk up AT&T's planned acquisition of T-Mobile USA, it's now clear that the company is interested in augmenting its 700MHz LTE spectrum with T-Mobile's 1700MHz AWS airwaves -- a move that it says would help it deploy LTE to 95 percent of the American population. AWS is currently used by T-Mobile for its 3G services, but running LTE there isn't without precedent -- that's where MetroPCS is already set up, so there's some potential for consumer hardware and infrastructure synergy there. For T-Mobile customers, that means that the repurposed AWS spectrum will eventually leave them without 1700MHz HSPA+, rendering the carrier's current line of 3G / 4G phones stuck on 2G; AT&T's recognizing that there'll be an equipment swap required eventually, but that's not really a concern for at least a year (assuming the deal goes through)."


... then if you are in an area where the 1700 band is the only band which gets good reception, then you will see a service degradation when using the 850/1900 bands. Again, this is the case where I work, and this is a case where "improved coverage" will not be achieved...at least not on 3G/HSPA.

My AT&T phone struggles to keep 1-2 bars, where my T-Mo phone keeps 4-5. I already have a T-Mo UMTS phone "which also has AT&T's 850", so I don't need to wait for the G2x to know that without the 1700 band, my phone is about useless on T-Mo-AT&T.

The crucial point you're ignoring is that as part of the transition all AT&T and T-Mobile towers are to become pentaband. So the T-Mobile AWS 1700/2100 tower with good signal will gain an 850/1900 antenna, thereby improving your reception on those bands at that location.
 
The crucial point you're ignoring is that as part of the transition all AT&T and T-Mobile towers are to become pentaband. So the T-Mobile AWS 1700/2100 tower with good signal will gain an 850/1900 antenna, thereby improving your reception on those bands at that location.


I have been trying to tell him but he only sees selectively
 
The crucial point you're ignoring is that as part of the transition all AT&T and T-Mobile towers are to become pentaband. So the T-Mobile AWS 1700/2100 tower with good signal will gain an 850/1900 antenna, thereby improving your reception on those bands at that location.

Where has it been stated that T-Mo towers will be converted to 850/1900 UTMS? That would contradict AT&T's press release that the 1700 band would be used "solely" for LTE.
 
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