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At&t says T-mobile xan keep pricing!!!

It was implied in the discussion about the phone and Pentaband stop being a smartass


Not being a smartass, just stating the facts, and looking for another way for you understand that the loss of the 1700 band "for UMTS use" will not result in increased reception. A point I've stated numerous times followed with your responses which do not address the issue. Citing the G2x is "not" a resolution for the reduced coverage regardless if it is implied. Even if it is implied, what good will that pentaband phone be with no 1700 band to use?
 
T-Mo's 850/1900 is Edge...something I stated in my earlier post in this thread...something you seem to have selectively missed.


It won't be edge anymore that's what your not getting it will be 3G! Then the other frequencies will be LTE edge will go away. Just like you have 3G with edge as a fallback now. It will be LTE with 3G as a fallback
 
It won't be edge anymore that's what your not getting it will be 3G! Then the other frequencies will be LTE edge will go away. Just like you have 3G with edge as a fallback now. It will be LTE with 3G as a fallback

How is it that I'm not getting "it will be 3G", when my post "of an official AT&T statement" (see above), says that they are doing away with 3G on the 1700 band, and most likely forcing users to an AT&T 3G capable phone (i.e. 850/1900 UMTS).

That said:

1. Having a pentaband phone doesn't help with 1700 band UMTS gone, in areas where 1700 offers best UMTS reception. Therefore, if I have a phone that I'm happy with, I lose out, as the phone which would have been perfectly fine for the next few years, given T-Mo's HDPA+ expansion plans, would then be rendered obsolete.

2. I have yet to read/hear about T-Mo towers being fitted with 850/1900 UMTS capability (unless AT&T has announced it elsewhere...would be awesome however I'd rather keep the 1700 band UMTS capable phone that I currently have). Again, I'm forced to give up phone, its features, and the plan that I'm happy with...no guarantee changes will be beneficial in my area.

3. Not that I want one, even if I am offered an AT&T LTE phone (fat chance on no/low cost equivalent smart phone replacement) it will be an AT&T branded phone, rendering web2go plans null and void, and there will be no chance that the 42/84/168Mbs HSDPA infrastructure would be finalized, nor devices created.
 
How is it that I'm not getting "it will be 3G", when my post "of an official AT&T statement" (see above), says that they are doing away with 3G on the 1700 band, and most likely forcing users to an AT&T 3G capable phone (i.e. 850/1900 UMTS).

That said:

1. Having a pentaband phone doesn't help with 1700 band UMTS gone, in areas where 1700 offers best UMTS reception. Therefore, if I have a phone that I'm happy with, I lose out, as the phone which would have been perfectly fine for the next few years, given T-Mo's HDPA+ expansion plans, would then be rendered obsolete.

2. I have yet to read/hear about T-Mo towers being fitted with 850/1900 UMTS capability (unless AT&T has announced it elsewhere...would be awesome however I'd rather keep the 1700 band UMTS capable phone that I currently have). Again, I'm forced to give up phone, its features, and the plan that I'm happy with...no guarantee changes will be beneficial in my area.

3. Not that I want one, even if I am offered an AT&T LTE phone (fat chance on no/low cost equivalent smart phone replacement) it will be an AT&T branded phone, rendering web2go plans null and void, and there will be no chance that the 42/84/168Mbs HSDPA infrastructure would be finalized, nor devices created.


Maybe you should go to AT&T website click on investors then read the statement than click the slide.show and watch. I'm done discussing this with a person whose mind is made up and just wants to be a negative and hate. Educate yourself because you obviously know more than the rest of us
 
Guys and gals, 2/3rds of what you guys are arguing about is still speculation. All we know for truth if that Ma Bell is buying T-Mo and that no one has completely decided who, what, when, where, why, or how things are going to go. Until that time, lets be civil with each other and and enjoy the ride we have left on the fun bus. Because we all know the next bus we get on wont be anything like this one.
 
Maybe you should go to AT&T website click on investors then read the statement than click the slide.show and watch. I'm done discussing this with a person whose mind is made up and just wants to be a negative and hate. Educate yourself because you obviously know more than the rest of us

No, I just quoted what was released. I also commented that the increased coverage may be "relative". I did not speak in absolutes as you. Per page 21 in the "slide show" you suggested ( http://www.att.com/Common/about_us/...atform_for_the_Future_of_Mobile_Broadband.pdf )

...Cell sites will be "Dual Band". You then brought up the G2x being pentaband, and towers will be pentaband, giving increased UMTS coverage, then you change directions and say towers will be changed to 850/1900. That's not exactly a train of thought going in the same direction...whatever. Until deployment specifics are revealed or implemented, its a waiting game. However it does mention a specific objective to "migrate" T-Mo users to "AT&T 3G devices" (dammit...down goes HSDPA+ on my TV Out equipped phone). More than likely, I'll be migrating my AT&T account to T-Mo.

No hate, aside from the fact that there will be a merger...I'm just seeking clarification of terms. If nothing else new accounts will not enjoy competitive plan pricing, should the deal go through. If "my mind was made up" and I knew more than everyone else, I would not have asked for additional information in the majority of my responses to you. Again, I only said that the coverage "may" not be improved all over, "if" a rollout is performed in a certain way (as described in press releases) versus your definitive statements. The slide show you sited also refers to increased density "in many area"...again, YMMV.
 
Wow this turned into a argument about who is right real fast.
For anyone that has not read at&t's plans for t-mobiles towers is there being turned into lte towers as far as I can see all the t-mobile radios will be removed from the towers.
But anyway I hope that the fcc and doj blocks this.
 
Wow this turned into a argument about who is right real fast...


Actually, it isn't about "who's right" so much as its about a statement was made that a definitive and specific integration plan has yet to be revealed, and changes "for all users in all areas may not be the same", followed by a search for additional info, and an opposing point of view believes that that everyone will benefit, despite the methodology.
 
Wow this turned into a argument about who is right real fast.
For anyone that has not read at&t's plans for t-mobiles towers is there being turned into lte towers as far as I can see all the t-mobile radios will be removed from the towers.
But anyway I hope that the fcc and doj blocks this.


This is just erroneous on so many levels. Oh and good look with it being blocked
 
I contacted T-mobile customer service on Saturday. I asked many questions about Att's acquisition, especially about pricing, 3g coverage with T-mobile phones, and data plan fees. The customer service rep was very helpful and knowledgeable. She explained that people who have T-mobile contracts at the time of the take-over will be able to keep the same price AND same terms (even grandfathered plans such as Fave 5 plan, $5.99 unlimited data, $10 unlimited data, etc...). She went on to say that those who are not on any contract with T-mobile are at risk of unexpected changes by ATT. She let me know that T-mobile has informed their staff about ATT's statement to honor existing contracts (all terms). She said that the information is out in various forums and that T-mobile plans to go public with the info too. Right now, T-mobile is offering a $70 instant credit to customers with expired contracts who want to re-new their contract in order to lock-in their current plan/cost. The $70 is available for anyone who wants to extend their contract. For those who are eligible for a phone upgrade, you can get the $70 credit + the phone upgrade.
 
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