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Help Bad network reception? Try a new 4G sim card.

kxs783kms

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I have tried everything in the world to get my wife's Thunderbolt on par with mine. Out of the box, mine has worked like a champ, while she's on her 2nd phone. (Bad power button and 0-1 bars constantly.) Anyway, after getting home and looking at her replacement phone, I noticed the same issue, 0-1 bars. I thought to myself that there has to be more to this. I put her phone next to mine and I had 3-4 bars, while she had her usual 0-1 bars (74% time without a signal.) I thought to check the phones info under settings and bam, I found my problem. Software and everything was exactly the same, except our PRL's. Mine is 13004 and hers is 15008. So I immediately jumped online and Googled how to updated the PRL on the Thunderbolt. Apparently the PRL files are stored on the 4G sim card, and since *228 no longer works on our phones, the only option to get a different PRL is to get a new sim card. I checked the sim card that came with her phone and the date reads.....102810. I then checked the date on my sim card and it read....020411. So I will be going to Verizon tomorrow morning and requesting a sim that was made on or at least near the date that mine was produced and hopefully this will fix our problem. I will update this thread once I know for sure. So if you did this and it helped, please feel free to post your results. Also, when we swapped the phones out, we didn't get a new sim card since each card is tied to that specific number. The rep just put the old sim and sdcard in the new phone incase anyone was wondering. Hope this helps.

Update: Just left my Verizon store and as of right now, I didn't have to swap out my sim card. The rep checked and he said it showed that my wife's phone was under the regular nationwide network, while my phone was under the hybrid network.(Whatever that is.) So he sent out an network update to my wife's phone that should bring hers on par with mine. He told me not to turn off my phone because it may take a couple of hours to push through, but once it does, our prls or signal strength in our area should be the same. Once the update pushes through, I'll post the results.

Update to the update:
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After letting the phone stay on for 8 hours, got home, pulled the sim and battery out for 30 seconds, popped them back in and bam!!!!!! 3-4 bars of constant signal strength. Didn't have to change the sim card, but the PRL number did change from 15008 to 13006. (Which 13xxx means you're on the Hybrid Network.) If you're have a low to bad network signal, I would highly suggest you call Verizon or go into a store and have them make sure you're on the Hybrid network and not the Regular Nationwide Network. Have them send an PRL update/upgrade to your line and see if it helps. Worked like a miracle for my wife's phone.
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I have the same problem, i just checked my Prl and it is 15008. It would be nice if swapping in a newer sim card would fix this. Let us know what happens.

Edit, i was on the phone with vzw cs, they had me do all the reset options restart airplane mode etc.
Then i spoke to a guy that said he was a android expert....he had me call #832. What ever that did still didnt help. they wanted to send me a new phone. Maybe ill just ask for a new sim, depending on your outcome.
 
Interesting. I also have Prl 15008 but no reception issues.

Good luck, hope the new sim does the trick.
 
I really highly doubt that is an issue. I have the same prl number but outside areas I get great service and most of the time I am starting to get great service inside my house but still cuts out sometimes. I have 4 bars all the time, from what the tech guy told me the bars are the radio signal and have nothing to do with data, and only to do with voice, thats why I still get calls even if I have no data and have four bars. so we will see. I have actually seen the service improve in the last week or so, I think verizon knows the issues and is working hard at it.
 
Yes, the PRL is the Preferred Roaming List, and when updated will help the device recognize previously undetected towers when roaming, but can also remedy reception issues in a device with corrupt PRL settings.

"The Preferred Roaming List (PRL) is a database residing in a wireless (primarily CDMA) device, such as a cellphone, that contains information used during the system selection and acquisition process. In the case of RUIM-based CDMA devices, the PRL resides on the RUIM. The PRL indicates which bands, sub bands and service provider identifiers will be scanned and in what priority order. Without a PRL, the device may not be able to roam, i.e. obtain service outside of the home area. There may be cases where missing or corrupt PRL's can lead to a customer not having service at all."

Preferred Roaming List - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Yes, the PRL is the Preferred Roaming List, and when updated will help the device recognize previously undetected towers when roaming, but can also remedy reception issues in a device with corrupt PRL settings.

"The Preferred Roaming List (PRL) is a database residing in a wireless (primarily CDMA) device, such as a cellphone, that contains information used during the system selection and acquisition process. In the case of RUIM-based CDMA devices, the PRL resides on the RUIM. The PRL indicates which bands, sub bands and service provider identifiers will be scanned and in what priority order. Without a PRL, the device may not be able to roam, i.e. obtain service outside of the home area. There may be cases where missing or corrupt PRL's can lead to a customer not having service at all."

Preferred Roaming List - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thanks for that definition and link Frisco. I learned something today. Only 7:45am and my day is done. :D
 
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