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Car Financing

You're not going to find a bank account that pays 8% interest a month. I'd challenge you to point one out to me. I'd sign up for that in a heartbeat.

A bank account? No, you're not. However, you can easily get 5% or more (not in bank account), and your car loan can be less than the 6% I used. It was just an example with random numbers.

8% was the nominal rate by the way, which means that they pay 0.6666% per month. Same with the 6% (0.5% monthly).
 
A bank account? No, you're not. However, you can easily get 5% or more (not in bank account), and your car loan can be less than the 6% I used. It was just an example with random numbers.

8% was the nominal rate by the way, which means that they pay 0.6666% per month. Same with the 6% (0.5% monthly).

I may be incorrect, but I believe interest on a car loan is calculated differently than interest on a CD or a bank account.
 
I may be incorrect, but I believe interest on a car loan is calculated differently than interest on a CD or a bank account.

Maybe it uses a discount rate instead of an interest rate. I don't know if that's the case, but it can be converted to a "normal" compounded interests rate. I have no idea how else they could calculate it if the payments are all equal.

Anyhow, you get what I'm trying to say. ;)
 
Maybe it uses a discount rate instead of an interest rate. I don't know if that's the case, but it can be converted to a "normal" compounded interests rate. I have no idea how else they could calculate it if the payments are all equal.

Anyhow, you get what I'm trying to say. ;)

I do, but I think you're wrong because you're not adjusting for risk. You pay for a car out right and there's no risk that it'll be repo'd. Your interest on 10K is not going to be more than a few hundred bucks. Even if it's a 5% loan on the car and you get 6% in a savings account you'll make $100 or so at the end of the year and you've got the risk of your car being repo'd if it all goes south.
 
I do, but I think you're wrong because you're not adjusting for risk. You pay for a car out right and there's no risk that it'll be repo'd. Your interest on 10K is not going to be more than a few hundred bucks. Even if it's a 5% loan on the car and you get 6% in a savings account you'll make $100 or so at the end of the year and you've got the risk of your car being repo'd if it all goes south.

Well, assuming you had more than 10k to start with it shouldn't be a problem if there's a hick-up. Yeah, we're only talking about a car and a couple bucks, but still. I was only trying to point out that in some cases, taking a loan might be the "winning" option. Don't tell me about "risks", I'm studying actuarial sciences. :p

If most people received a million, they'd buy a nice house and would have no loans at all. If you gave me a million, I'd buy a couple nice houses with as many loans. I'd rent them (except for one) so I wouldn't even be the one making payments for the loans. After a couple years, my house would be paid off, just like the people that bought only one, but I'd also have more houses and that's pure gold. You get the idea. ;)

That's only if you want more money, of course and are willing to assume a small risk on the initial investment.
 
Old Toyotas, Hondas, and Subarus (early-mid '90s) can be had for $1,000-$3,000 or so and will last forever if taken care of.
 
When you do, if you can, buy used and pay cash. It shocks people when I tell them I haven't had a car payment on almost 20 years! My last 2 cars were used and they one before that was new but I kept it 9 years till it went south on me. People just expect that they are supposed to have a car payment. Nope!

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Beware Car Loan Financing. That is the title of the article that you guys need to read. It will only take you a few minutes to read something that can save you a bunch of money.
 
Honestly, if someone came to either one of us with $30k in hand and wanted to buy a $30k car I'd tell them not to spend every dime they had on a car. I'm guessing you'd probably do the same thing. Personally I would tell them to spend $5-10k on a used car and take the rest to save/invest depending on their personal needs. Sadly, if you're looking at short term investments now, you're not going to get much more than 2-3% if you're really, really lucky.

Depends on the car. A used car might initially cost you less but unless you know a good mechanic or you know all about your car, repair costs can be high. Consider the cost of replacing a transfer case or perhaps an entire engine or the wiring harness and that bargain used car becomes a terrible deal. Sometimes, you are forced into professional repairs because you cannot handle the job yourself.

I know cars but I would never try to fix a new one. I once spent a week trying to locate a wiring problem with my Opel GT. Turned out to be a bad fusible link. The previous owner added one to some wiring that ran under the engine. Another time, my Oldsmobile Cutlass would not start. Had I taken it to a shop, I would have spent a fortune trying to find out what was up. The problem was a $125.00 anti-rollover switch buried in the trunk. I cut the wires and soldered them together because I was not about to spend $125.00 on a new one. Plus labor costs.

I'll likely never purchase a modern vehicle. Anything after 1970 or so is not for me. Can't really compare new/original costs to current values because in the market I am interested in, the costs have gone way, way up. Same with vintage bikes.

Purchase a used Hybrid Droid Zio GT with the 454 and four on the floor for $12,000 rather a new one for $24,000 and when the engine goes bad and it must be replaced, you would probably have been better off to purchase new with a warranty that will also cover starter motors, transmission and other stuff.

Sometimes a five thousand dollar car becomes either a $12,000.00 repair job agonizingly stretched over the long term or a great deal. Saw that with a friend that bought the worlds most costly Hummer. A used POS that sucked money faster than he could make it. Depends on the car and your knowledge. Incidentally, a new car can be a bag of crap, too. Consider the costs of replacement batteries for hybrid cars. From one to six grand. So a used car becomes a expensive one if the batteries are replaced.

I can fix my cars. No problem too big to handle. I cannot repair a new car because it requires tools I refuse to purchase.

What cars actually cost is important to me right now because I my next one will cost me far more than most here will consider reasonable and so I'll not say. I will know exactly what it costs me; its maintenance costs, gas costs, oil costs, insurance. Then and only then will I know how to handle financing.

When you make a big purchase, run the numbers and you will know if a good deal is indeed a good deal.

I found this: "Tesla Motors
 
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