vestalpaul
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Is there any way to get this phone on a Sim card network?
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Root carrier switch?!?
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dragonhart6505
Android Expert
Seeing as this phone doesnt have a sim card slot...no
In theory we could switch to Boost or Sprint or PagePlus or any other CDMA network, but that requires IMEI swapping in most cases and is taboo to talk about
In theory we could switch to Boost or Sprint or PagePlus or any other CDMA network, but that requires IMEI swapping in most cases and is taboo to talk about
modhatter6811
Android Enthusiast
I actually had to do a carrier switch on a (CDMA) kyocera rise, twice. My wife bought one from bestbuy, and it was labeled, and packaged as a virgin mobile phone. Upon trying to activate it, I could not, as the ESN was already in use. I had to talk to a Virgin rep who explained that it was branded with a Sprint ESN. Then I had to explain to them how and where I got the phone, and when. They then varified it by calling BestBuy. After all that was taken care of, they had me unlock the phone with a special code they gave me, then they generated a new Virgin ESN, and had me enter it into the phone on my end. Boom, activated! Carrier switching on cdma is a legal gray area. There are no laws that explicitly state this to be illegal. Cloning an ESN however, is very illegal. If you buy and activate a phone from another manufacturer, then deactivate it, and wanted to switch its ESN to another phone, (which you also bought, activated, and deactivated)... I'm pretty damn sure that would be legal according to this federal law, as there is no intent to defraud in this case. 18 U.S. Code
starkraving
Android Expert
Modhatter was correct for the most part...there are some things that I disagree with...like tethering, tethering is an innate capability of android (since eclair)... So carriers are charging for something the phone does natively... Then are they in violation of Apache and GNU licensing? Just food for thought...
dragonhart6505
Android Expert
Modhatter was correct for the most part...there are some things that I disagree with...like tethering, tethering is an innate capability of android (since eclair)... So carriers are charging for something the phone does natively... Then are they in violation of Apache and GNU licensing? Just food for thought...
Oooo I love playing with technicals (dont read that wrong!)
"Technically" by installing Candy Crush, or any other app for that matter, youve modified your phone...therefore breaking the terms of service agreed to by you to your carrier (Virgin/Sprint), the phone maker (ZTE) and Google. This "technically" applies even if your phone updates an application over WiFi by itself.
Do you really own your device?
Now the whole thing I mentioned is really just a ridiculous circumstance and you wouldnt really havent done anything wrong so dont be scurred, but its "technically" true.
#FightTheMan! Lol
modhatter6811
Android Enthusiast
Modhatter was correct for the most part...there are some things that I disagree with...like tethering, tethering is an innate capability of android (since eclair)... So carriers are charging for something the phone does natively... Then are they in violation of Apache and GNU licensing? Just food for thought...
Lmfao! Great food for thought if you ask me.
And yes, I believe you're actually right about that. While on the one hand it would be fraud to use a service you normally pay for, on the other, its not a service they can technically charge for! I didn't even think about the GNU licensing! It is their job to provide the android software intact and unmodified (meaning tether enabled) as provided by google. So yeah, we might break some copyright here and there "technically" but virgin mobile did it first before we even got ahold of it. This has turned into a great thread. I love you guys!
starkraving
Android Expert
Also as a brief history lesson when Steve (Cyanogen) got a Cease and Desist from google after taking over the work started by Jesusfreke that's how and why Cyanogen was built to run independent from GApps...So GApps and Google are more or less a user option when running CM/CM based ROMs...the whole history of it is very interesting... Now that google is making GApps more and more proprietary and as the garden walls get higher and higher...the incident with Cyanogen was almost a foretelling of the future to come.
vestalpaul
Newbie
Who scurred?
I ain't scurred.
I ain't scurred.
modhatter6811
Android Enthusiast
Also as a brief history lesson when Steve (Cyanogen) got a Cease and Desist from google after taking over the work started by Jesusfreke that's how and why Cyanogen was built to run independent from GApps...So GApps and Google are more or less a user option when running CM/CM based ROMs...the whole history of it is very interesting... Now that google is making GApps more and more proprietary and as the garden walls get higher and higher...the incident with Cyanogen was almost a foretelling of the future to come.
Jesusfreke!? I had no clue that he started it. I've seen so much of his work all over XDA, and google code, and never would have guessed as much. He laid the foundation for a literal empire! I'm digging up the history. As for the future; Garden walls, meet your worst nightmare... hello apktool!
dragonhart6505
Android Expert
Jesusfreke!? I had no clue that he started it. I've seen so much of his work all over XDA, and google code, and never would have guessed as much. He laid the foundation for a literal empire! I'm digging up the history. As for the future; Garden walls, meet your worst nightmare... hello apktool!
Apktool is your best friend when it comes to modding. Best investment youll ever make ^_^
starkraving
Android Expert
Jesusfreke!? I had no clue that he started it. I've seen so much of his work all over XDA, and google code, and never would have guessed as much. He laid the foundation for a literal empire! I'm digging up the history. As for the future; Garden walls, meet your worst nightmare... hello apktool!
His was the first ROM I ever flashed(G1). He's also responsible for smali/baksmali and loads of other stuff. One of the founding fathers as it were with Koush, Cyanogen, Amon Ra, Manup, Pete Alfonso and so on...
"Soon after the introduction of the HTC Dream (named the "T-Mobile G1" in the United States) mobile phone in September 2008, a method was discovered to attain privileged control (termed "root access") within Android's Linux-based subsystem.[15] Having root access, combined with the open source nature of the Android operating system, allowed the phone's stock firmware to be modified and re-installed onto the phone.
In the following year, several modified firmwares for the Dream were developed and distributed by Android enthusiasts. One, maintained by a developer named JesusFreke, quickly became popular among Dream owners. In August 2009, JesusFreke stopped work on his firmware, and suggested users switch to a version of his ROM that had been further enhanced by developer Cyanogen (Steve Kondik) called "CyanogenMod"." Courtesy of CMs wiki
starkraving
Android Expert
Yeah absolutely one of the best tools available. Sadly the new closed source GApps specifically GMail, Email, Keyboard, Search and Google Home are completely closed source and for now there's no way to beat the SIG checks or resign. We've played with cheat methods like doing the mods compiling with errors and opening an unmodified version of the apk with a archiving tool...This method has worked for a couple apks because its a drag and drop cheat that doesn't break the SIG. But it doesn't work across the board...
modhatter6811
Android Enthusiast
Well that's a little concerning. It was bound to start eventually. Somehow though, I feel it won't last long. Not with the way people like us are. A lyric from a song comes to mind.
"We won't stop until somebody calls the cops, and even then, we'll start again, and just pretend that nothing ever happened."