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Class Action Law suite against samsung for wire tapping!
- Thread starter rm50
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It's not just Samsung, also HTC and probably others.
They claim they they don't monitor keystrokes and private messages, so this group had better have proof otherwise this won't go anywhere.
EDIT: This is software included by the carriers/network, they should be suing them not the manufacturers.
Theres an app on the market that can detect this software, "Carrier IQ Detector"
My Galaxy S II doesnt have it, it's using a Samsung firmware, no custom rom.
They claim they they don't monitor keystrokes and private messages, so this group had better have proof otherwise this won't go anywhere.
EDIT: This is software included by the carriers/network, they should be suing them not the manufacturers.
Theres an app on the market that can detect this software, "Carrier IQ Detector"
My Galaxy S II doesnt have it, it's using a Samsung firmware, no custom rom.
While the manufacturers shouldn't get off the hook completely, I think they're the wrong target. It should be the carriers being hit with lawsuits and perhaps the manufacturers getting hit with something like negligence. The manufacturers knew what it would do, but didn't say 'hey...this is wrong'. But the carriers called for the software to be installed for the express reason of logging information.
james515
Well-Known Member
maybe I missed it some where, but does CIQ actually SEND every keystroke made on your phone to the carrier.
I saw the video showing that the keystrokes are displayed on that dudes PC screen while the phone is in Debug mode. I would assume that the debug mode would display anything you do on the phone that so a developer/tech could use that info for apps they might be developing or trouble shooting a problem the phone might be having.
But does that really mean that those key strokes were actually stored in a file and or transmitted to the carrier. Like I said, maybe i missed that bit of info somewhere.
James
I saw the video showing that the keystrokes are displayed on that dudes PC screen while the phone is in Debug mode. I would assume that the debug mode would display anything you do on the phone that so a developer/tech could use that info for apps they might be developing or trouble shooting a problem the phone might be having.
But does that really mean that those key strokes were actually stored in a file and or transmitted to the carrier. Like I said, maybe i missed that bit of info somewhere.
James
primetech
Android Enthusiast
So in other words... people are filing a lawsuit against the places Android would get hurt the most, instead of filing it against the people who are actually doing the wrong?
Interesting, very interesting. Heaven forbid we put the blame in the right place...
rm50
Well-Known Member
I don't know all the capabilities of this but,just knowing that it is there is enough for me to want it disabled!
Thanks to the DEVS on here at Android Central it can be disabled!
RoboMonkey
Android Expert
You might want to stop using computers all together I think they log keystrokes too.
And those evil cell phone carriers might be logging every phone call and text to your phone.
And those evil cell phone carriers might be logging every phone call and text to your phone.
danielmike
Well-Known Member
correct that debug allows devs to log their own key strokes.. but in TREV E's video you can clearly see before every keylog there is a transmit code therefore it is sending every thing you do to that particular server of named company.. Something needs to be done either way we look at it..
This seems blown out of proportion to me really. CIQ has came out and said what it does and doesn't track Carrier IQ reps stress that software does not log every keystroke - CSMonitor.com
If you are really worried about your carrier knowing who you called, who you texted, your GPS location, and where you went online then even without CIQ you should still have those worries after all the carrier has all that info and doesn't need something to track it.
The reason CIQ is installed on phones is to find out when you lose service so the carrier can realize "Hey at this location lots of people want to text or surf the web and can't because we don't have coverage there perhaps we should build a new cell tower..."
I can't understand how "evidence" submitted by a dev who hacked the software to show what it can do not what it does in reality could provide a solid legal ground in court.
If you are really worried about your carrier knowing who you called, who you texted, your GPS location, and where you went online then even without CIQ you should still have those worries after all the carrier has all that info and doesn't need something to track it.
The reason CIQ is installed on phones is to find out when you lose service so the carrier can realize "Hey at this location lots of people want to text or surf the web and can't because we don't have coverage there perhaps we should build a new cell tower..."
I can't understand how "evidence" submitted by a dev who hacked the software to show what it can do not what it does in reality could provide a solid legal ground in court.
From the debug mode in the video, you can see that it's specifically the Carrier IQ application that is logging those things. However, the video never asserted that the keystrokes were then transmitted anywhere.