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Dfndr security

Should I get rid of it? Are Avast Mobile Security, Avast Cleanup, and ONE BOOST ok? Is there any good thing for this/these purpose(s)?
 
They are all junk.
Dfndr has to be one of the worst, as they are reponsible for some of those annoying as hell full page browser hi-jacker ads that claim 'your phone has been infected with 4 viruses' BS.
 
I got rid of 'em all (I hope). Who knows if they'll come back, though? Meanwhile I still have to fix that crazy Stylus. I keep waiting for it to run out of juice but it never does, even though it's been unplugged for days. What I want to do is replug it when it's empty or almost and maybe that'll get it back to normal. If I could get a spudger maybe I could open the "unopenable" phone and at least take out the battery. Do you remember the good old days when a jiggy phone could be cured by that? I don't get what's behind this sorry fad of sealing them. It obviously doesn't make the darn things waterproof. Maybe it's some kind of control freeak measure. Once again, if they're our phones then they should be OUR phones. They sure cost enough. I would like to find out if the Stylus just naturally pulls this stunt or have I had exactly the same bad luck with two of 'em in a row...
 
Rgarner said:
I got rid of 'em all (I hope). Who knows if they'll come back, though? Meanwhile I still have to fix that crazy Stylus. I keep waiting for it to run out of juice but it never does, even though it's been unplugged for days. What I want to do is replug it when it's empty or almost and maybe that'll get it back to normal. If I could get a spudger maybe I could open the "unopenable" phone and at least take out the battery. Do you remember the good old days when a jiggy phone could be cured by that? I don't get what's behind this sorry fad of sealing them. It obviously doesn't make the darn things waterproof. Maybe it's some kind of control freeak measure. Once again, if they're our phones then they should be OUR phones. They sure cost enough. I would like to find out if the Stylus just naturally pulls this stunt or have I had exactly the same bad luck with two of 'em in a row...
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Simple- the reasoning is obvious to me, as I tend to despise engineers.

Battery bad?
Throw device out and buy a new one.
 
I don't know if the battery is bad. According to the screen it's the best one in the history of the world. It must be because the power's still ok after all this time. At least there's enough to light up the screen which claims that (sick android open for operation). I wish I were independently wealthy. Then maybe I could get another any old time. Even a relatively small Walmart carries the Moto G Stylus, and for less than a couple hundred bucks (probably not after tax).
 
Rgarner said:
I don't know if the battery is bad. According to the screen it's the best one in the history of the world. It must be because the power's still ok after all this time. At least there's enough to light up the screen which claims that (sick android open for operation). I wish I were independently wealthy. Then maybe I could get another any old time. Even a relatively small Walmart carries the Moto G Stylus, and for less than a couple hundred bucks (probably not after tax).
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No, my point was that they stopped making most phones have a replaceable battery so that you would have to buy a new device once the battery fails.

I have been incredibly lucky that only one of my devices had one of those bastard batteries that was not only glued in, but also had a steel plate over the top of it.

Damn near had to destroy the inside of the phone to replace that battery.
 
What models do have replaceable batteries? Do we have to move heaven and Earth to get at them? If this battery has failed, why is the screen still lit up, but only when I press the on button long enough? How can someone with a "nonopenable" phone open it and fix it anyway?
 
Rgarner said:
What models do have replaceable batteries? Do we have to move heaven and Earth to get at them? If this battery has failed, why is the screen still lit up, but only when I press the on button long enough? How can someone with a "nonopenable" phone open it and fix it anyway?
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My Moto e6 and my ol'lady's Moto e both have replaceable batteries.
Even my piece of poop ZTE Z5531S does.

It seems that many of the cheaper devices do.
The Moto e is a really nice device (8 core, 2/32 GB + 512 GB SD) that is only $50 at Wal-Mart, for Straight Talk, and about three times that for an unlocked one.
 
Gogovanissa said:
Why are antiviruses so useless to you? I, for example, use them, and my phone works much better
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There are no viruses on Android.

Your device is actually slower than without them.

They do absoultely nothing but mine your data, slow the device, and actually leave you less secure as they are really a gateway for malware themselves.

If you look it up, you will see that this is correct.

The only article telling you that antivirus apps are any good are written by the people making the antivirus apps.

Doesn't it seem strange that every time an annoying, full page, browser hijacking 'alert' stating that YOUR DEVICE IS 28.4% INFECTED WITH VIRUSES/MALWARE AND WILL BE LOCKED IN TWO DAYS is only a link to yet another stupid antivirus app?

They cannot know if there is malware on the device without the app being installed and running, so the advertisement is a blatant lie right from the beginning- designed to scare newbies into downloading and installing their apps.

Any app whose advertisements are complete falsehoods are total garbage themselves- if it were not so, then they would not have to lie in the first place.

As for Dfnder, those fake warning advertisements are exactly how I found that crAPP.

If you really think that your device runs better with such junk on it, then prove it by doing unbiased testing with and without it.

All of it.

Otherwise, you are falling for the snakeoil syndrome of advertising.
 
puppykickr said:
There are no viruses on Android.

Your device is actually slower than without them.

They do absoultely nothing but mine your data, slow the device, and actually leave you less secure as they are really a gateway for malware themselves.

If you look it up, you will see that this is correct.

The only article telling you that antivirus apps are any good are written by the people making the antivirus apps.

Doesn't it seem strange that every time an annoying, full page, browser hijacking 'alert' stating that YOUR DEVICE IS 28.4% INFECTED WITH VIRUSES/MALWARE AND WILL BE LOCKED IN TWO DAYS is only a link to yet another stupid antivirus app?

They cannot know if there is malware on the device without the app being installed and running, so the advertisement is a blatant lie right from the beginning- designed to scare newbies into downloading and installing their apps.

Any app whose advertisements are complete falsehoods are total garbage themselves- if it were not so, then they would not have to lie in the first place.

As for Dfnder, those fake warning advertisements are exactly how I found that crAPP.

If you really think that your device runs better with such junk on it, then prove it by doing unbiased testing with and without it.

All of it.

Otherwise, you are falling for the snakeoil syndrome of advertising.
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While we're on the subject, what are Coinbase and FTX? How were they downloaded to my friend's phone from the play store, apparently without his knowledge/permission? How is it possible for an app which is not allowed in a particular country able to be installed in a phone which is in that country? I found this out by going to the website, which actually seemed to be blocking itself.
 
Possibly bloatware.
You would be surprised what gets downloaded to some devices as soon as they are put online.

That is why I install a firewall and block everything when I first set up devices.
 
How would that be done? I'm hoping to get a new phone soon and sure could use that. His phone has been around a few months. I think he was checking out some sketchy websites when this crap happened. Apparently this garbage has something to do with that useless cryptocurrency. By the way, I will probably have to set up a new phone with public wifi, and I have no idea what firewall will be available, if any.
 
Just put the apk onto an SD card, and put the card into the device before you even start.

When you turn it on, do not add any Google account.

You can always add the account later- after you have set up the device.

That way the firewall can block whatever you want, before it can ever connect.

Typically, I can repeatedly hit the Home key until the device (a new device) gives up trying to force me to add a Google account.

If the device is not new, you will need the Google account that was on it if FRP gets tripped.

Install the apk and set up the firewall as desired.

NoRoot is the easiest and quickest.
NetGuard is probably the best, but it is much more in depth and also has an ad-blocker.
This can make the device difficult to use - especially during set up.
 
Do I just download NoRoot onto an old sd card and put that in the new phone? I guess it doesn't matter what size the sd is, then. I can always put in a different card later.
 
What is FRP? I suppose it's some kind of BS googoo uses to try to force people to put up with its crap. I really would like a way around that.
 
Ok, I have it installed on sd. I checked auto start on boot. I hope that's right. Now I just have to get the new phone, take out the sd card from the old one, and swap. I know from experience I'm going to have a problem with that. When I take that crappy "tray" out it's gonna go flying. How do I get the stinking thing right side up and make sure the sd card doesn't fall out of this horrible "design"?
 
Well, that horrible design is different for most devices.

It used to be so simple, right there near the battery contacts.

Of course they had to change that!

Simplicity is the enemy of the modern engineer!
 
Right now it's on the back burner. I thought I would have the new phone by now but it's not working out that way. Seriously though, how do I get that crappy tray outta there and figure out which way is up on that thing? Then I have the added "fun" of trying to put the sd card in the rotten new tray, IF I ever get this phone in the first place.
 
Without pictures I cannot really say.
Let me put it this way...
this year alone I have purchased three phones, two of which are similar Motorolas (e6 and E).

None of which have the same, or even similar SD card connection.

To be honest, after my 256 GB SD card went to the grave after only putting 29 GB on it, I have gotten away from even using the things.

The stupid card cost as much as the device, and didn't even last a couple of weeks.

They are junk, even the 'good' ones.
 
I don't blame you. Sometimes I think we should just go back to caves and spears, if it ever was that way. I guess it's good for the mind to go through all these exercises. We just have to have enough calories to support it. Back at the ranch, I at least haven't had a lot of trouble with sd cards. I'm more likely to get bedeviled by the phones. I suppose that makes sense because the cards have some layer of protection by virtue of being inside, whereas the phones themselves are subject to more of the vagaries of the real world.
 
Hey, just so you know, I just got a new phone a couple of days ago.

Wal-Mart, unlocked Motorola e5 for about $130.

I put most of the apps I want onto an SD card, and did not enter a Google account or allow it to get online until well after I had installed a firewall and set it up.

Holy crap!
No bloatware!
None!

And as far as Screwgle is concerned, only one more app of theirs is active- Google Play Services (the worst one, btw)- and that is only because the Wi-Fi won't stay on without it.

I kept it at its lowest level, and because this 'new' device is a bit dated, it is an old version of the app.

Anyway, so far so good with the set up.

I am going to try to put MicroG on the device to see if I can then use Wi-Fi without Google Play Services.
 
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