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Help Does GPS navigation work?

natgild

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I have a Samsung Charge phone and the GPS almost never works properly. When trying to use Google navigation I get a "Searching for GPS" message and no navigation instructions. :mad: Apparently this problem has been around for quite a while and has not been addressed. When I try the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 at the local BestBuy I get the same "searching for GPS" message. I was all set to buy an Android tablet, but now I'm thinking about getting an iPad as I plan to use it when travelling and plan to use the gps.
 
How else will it find GPS signal if it does not search? If you do the search for the first time and you are in a building it is going to take a long time and may never succeed, GPS is not supposed to work in buildings. If you go outside and apart from GPS turn celular data it will get the signal in less than 30 seconds the first time and then next time it will be much faster.
 
I have a Samsung Charge phone and the GPS almost never works properly. When trying to use Google navigation I get a "Searching for GPS" message and no navigation instructions. :mad: Apparently this problem has been around for quite a while and has not been addressed. When I try the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 at the local BestBuy I get the same "searching for GPS" message. I was all set to buy an Android tablet, but now I'm thinking about getting an iPad as I plan to use it when travelling and plan to use the gps.
Two factors are involved in a phone or tablet of any make or model (including iPads) locking on to GPS signals and how fast the lock occurs:

1 - The GPS device needs to lock onto several satellite signals at once in order to get a lock, then download the location data including time and sync info which is part of the GPS signal. This takes several minutes if there is no Assisted-GPS info available (like cellular).

2 - The device needs map info which requires some kind of data connection, either WiFi or 2G/3G/4G cellular. Without that data, the apps can not download mapping info as the devices do not store complete maps on the device, just cache some map tiles for local mapping. So even if it gets a GPS lock, it won't display mapping info without a data connection.

Of course, this is using ONLY the GPS sensor in the device. As Szadzik said, having WiFi or cellular network data turned on will increase initial lock speed into several seconds instead of minutes outdoors. This is due to the Assisted-GPS chips in most current devices. The A-GPS device will look for cellular network data and get a rough location within a few kilometers which is accurate enough for weather app details or get a rough lock on your location. The GPS continues to look for and lock onto several satellites for a fine location lock which may take another 30+ seconds outdoors. Indoors the lock can take longer, but as long as several satellite signals are available, the device can lock indoors in houses. In apartment buildings or large stores, the concrete and steel structure overhead often prevents enough signal penetration to provide a GPS lock.

I have an app for geocaching that shows my exact location in coordinates and it doesn't need a data connection as it can store geocaching data in a GPX file that I can download to my devices. My Galaxy Tab 10.1 3G will get a rough lock in my house in about 5-10 seconds and the app shows accuracy is about 2200 meters (2.2 kms), along with a fine lock in about 30 seconds with accuracy of 5 meters. This is because I have cellular data available. But if I turn off the 3G connection (airplane mode for example) without WiFi, a GPS lock can take 3-5 minutes but once achieved, that lock is accurate to 5 meters.

I also have a Samsung Nexus S and use the same app on it. Results are similar on the phone. My wife has an HTC Desire and again we get similar results. My daughter has an HTC Legend and it's about 30% slower getting a lock, but it does it too.

I have a Garmin GPSMAP 62s for geocaching which is a dedicated GPS device (shock and water proof and runs all day on one set of rechargeable AA batteries). It locks in seconds and is more accurate and can get a lock inside buildings, under heavy foliage, etc. But that's all it does, no voice or data on it, just GPS location info. But it gets that GPS lock in places where the phones or tablet can't even get a single satellite signal or make a phone call.
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Thanks for the info. You would think that as assisted GPS would acquire satellites more quickly than a conventional GPS(like my Garmin) for the reason's noted. However, when I go to Google Navigation with my Samsung Charge and put it on my car's dash with an unobstructed view of the sky, it gives me a "Searching for GPS" message, sometimes up to 5 or 10 minutes. This makes it pretty much useless as a navigation tool in my car. When searching the internet, it seems that this "Searching for GPS" behavior is a pretty common complaint. I got this same behavior in my local BestBuy with a Samsung 10.1 tablet. Of course, the Best Buy "test" was indoors. bfksc, apparently you do not have this problem with your Samsung 10.1 if you leave the cellular location services on. That is encouraging. I have tried mine with both the cell service location services on and off with no appreciable differences.
 
Thanks for the info. You would think that as assisted GPS would acquire satellites more quickly than a conventional GPS(like my Garmin) for the reason's noted. However, when I go to Google Navigation with my Samsung Charge and put it on my car's dash with an unobstructed view of the sky, it gives me a "Searching for GPS" message, sometimes up to 5 or 10 minutes.
Sounds like you might have a model that defaults to the wrong part of the globe. By default, GPS devices are configured for regions and if you have one that is set for Asia and you're in the US, it will take a long time to download and lock the satellite signals. This happens when people buy phones or tablets online that are not specific to the region where they will be using it. Have you tried an app in the Market like GPSdoctor or Fasterfix that clears the GPS settings and sets up new settings for your region?

Also, you mention it's slow with Google Nav. What about Google Maps? Or GPS Test in the Market?
 
Hi Tech guys,

I was just new in the samsung tab 10.1, I tried video chatting, it works fine but when ever I type any chat message it will cover the video from the person I was chatting. Is it really like this? or is there a way to still see the video like it's minimize while typing on the chat box.
 
Hi Tech guys,

I was just new in the samsung tab 10.1, I tried video chatting, it works fine but when ever I type any chat message it will cover the video from the person I was chatting. Is it really like this? or is there a way to still see the video like it's minimize while typing on the chat box.

Pardon me for my ignorance for posting in the wrong thread, I was about to create a thread but was routed here... Again my apologies..
 
I was just new in the samsung tab 10.1, I tried video chatting, it works fine but when ever I type any chat message it will cover the video from the person I was chatting. Is it really like this? or is there a way to still see the video like it's minimize while typing on the chat box.
No idea. You might want to ask this question at Skype Support Network

Let us know what you find! :)
 
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