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Help does this look normal?
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Well it doesn't look great tbh.
What phone is it?
You should install the app Gsam Battery Monitor and let it discharge normally tomorrow, using it like normal and check out the results it gives you
What phone is it?
You should install the app Gsam Battery Monitor and let it discharge normally tomorrow, using it like normal and check out the results it gives you
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sorry I definitely meant to include that in my initial post. It's a Galaxy s6. Week old. Maybe I'll call and yell at Verizon and return it for a nexus but they are so damn big and heavy compared.
Yeah I've used gsam with other phones. So you think the cell standby has sub processes associated with it that I can narrow down to? I just have a feeling GSam will tell me the same thing and I won't know what I can do to make it better
Yeah I've used gsam with other phones. So you think the cell standby has sub processes associated with it that I can narrow down to? I just have a feeling GSam will tell me the same thing and I won't know what I can do to make it better
I can see 29% of usage accounted for there, 23% from cell standby. So what's used the other 71%? That seems a more important question to me.
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I know what you mean and get what you're driving at, but the rest of the 71% are apps that I'd like to be running and taking up that %. I've only been on Android since the Motorola RAZR M (so not that long), but I've never seen a correctly running app take as much percentage as Cell Standby, other than the screen. Just trying to see if there's an issue on my phone that I can target.
I liken it to freeing space on a computer. Usually when my hard drive is too full, I run a program to list my largest folders, then I go after those and, 90% of the time, I find a few folders/files that are just completely unnecessary and huge and I can get rid of them right away.
I'm almost at a full charge now and will post back later today with a new capture.
Ah, well that depends on how you use your phone - I can quite easily have individual apps use more power than cell standby, it's just a matter of what apps and how long you run them for 
Unfortunately not all software calculates power usage in the same way. For example, if I look at my system power menu it will tell me that cell standby was 90% of my power usage today, and a browser and a couple of news apps the rest. This is in fact nonsense - I've used 40% of the battery, and in the time the phone has been on battery I know that if I'd just left it sitting untouched with the screen off it would have used just a few percent. GSam Battery Monitor tells me that my screen has used 39%, apps 48% and the phone radio 8% - that sounds much more accurate, because 8% of 40% is 3% of the total charge, which is about what I'd expect if I left it sitting untouched for 8 hours with data connections off (e.g. overnight).
In fact I can see what my phone's power menu is doing wrong: it tells me that what it calls "cell standby" is using 59% of the power in the 1.5 hours the screen was on, and 99% of the power in the 6.5 hours the screen was off, and averaging these two numbers to give 90% overall (because (99*6.5 +59*1.5)/8 = 0.9). That is however stupid, because almost all of the power drain occurred when the screen was on, which that calculation, just weighting by time, ignores (plus I don't believe that it actually used 59% of the power when the screen was on either). What that tells me is that whoever wrote that bit of the system software is an idiot! Now whether your phone has the same problem depends on whether the idiot in question worked for HTC or Google, and if they did work for Google whether someone in Samsung spotted this and fixed it in your phone.
I suspect your display might not have this problem, because if I look at your numbers the phone used 47% of the battery in 5 hours, of which cell standby used 22%. So 0.22*47/5 = 2% per hour from cell standby, which is a little high, but perfectly possible if you are moving around (so switching cells) or spending time in places with a weaker signal. And as you say, there is the question of what they are lumping together under that heading of "cell standby".
But I would suggest using GSam to get a better idea of what is really using the power, and working from there.
Unfortunately not all software calculates power usage in the same way. For example, if I look at my system power menu it will tell me that cell standby was 90% of my power usage today, and a browser and a couple of news apps the rest. This is in fact nonsense - I've used 40% of the battery, and in the time the phone has been on battery I know that if I'd just left it sitting untouched with the screen off it would have used just a few percent. GSam Battery Monitor tells me that my screen has used 39%, apps 48% and the phone radio 8% - that sounds much more accurate, because 8% of 40% is 3% of the total charge, which is about what I'd expect if I left it sitting untouched for 8 hours with data connections off (e.g. overnight).
In fact I can see what my phone's power menu is doing wrong: it tells me that what it calls "cell standby" is using 59% of the power in the 1.5 hours the screen was on, and 99% of the power in the 6.5 hours the screen was off, and averaging these two numbers to give 90% overall (because (99*6.5 +59*1.5)/8 = 0.9). That is however stupid, because almost all of the power drain occurred when the screen was on, which that calculation, just weighting by time, ignores (plus I don't believe that it actually used 59% of the power when the screen was on either). What that tells me is that whoever wrote that bit of the system software is an idiot!
Now whether your phone has the same problem depends on whether the idiot in question worked for HTC or Google, and if they did work for Google whether someone in Samsung spotted this and fixed it in your phone.I suspect your display might not have this problem, because if I look at your numbers the phone used 47% of the battery in 5 hours, of which cell standby used 22%. So 0.22*47/5 = 2% per hour from cell standby, which is a little high, but perfectly possible if you are moving around (so switching cells) or spending time in places with a weaker signal. And as you say, there is the question of what they are lumping together under that heading of "cell standby".
But I would suggest using GSam to get a better idea of what is really using the power, and working from there.
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Yes, I installed GSAM last night and will post something back this evening (it's 10:33AM where I am right now). For the record, I was in my house all day on Wi-Fi. The 4G bars in my pic were like that all day---high. I live close to a tower.
My Cell Standby is ALWAYS high and always at the top of the list unless I used a particular app or lots of screen time that day, which is rare. Yesterday was the highest I think I've seen it. And I used the radio.com and Amazon music app for a large portion of the day which I don't normally do, so I'm wondering if it is somehow related.
My Cell Standby is ALWAYS high and always at the top of the list unless I used a particular app or lots of screen time that day, which is rare. Yesterday was the highest I think I've seen it. And I used the radio.com and Amazon music app for a large portion of the day which I don't normally do, so I'm wondering if it is somehow related.
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So here are my latest screenshots. I checked it a few hours in and Cell Standby was at the top of the list, but was a pretty low percentage. I started using the radio.com app and it seems to have grown larger. Odd that GSAM doesn't really show the same thing that the battery app does as far as 24% cell standby
