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Email - which apps keep it private

codesplice said:
The user also has full control to be able to exclude certain apps (like their mail client of choice) from being "Dozed". This does not require root or any other system modifications.

On my 6P, I can do this via Settings > Apps > (settings gear) > Battery optimization. Tap the "Not Optimized" dropdown -> All apps. You can then pick any non-optimized apps and sent them to "Don't optimize".

It's a funny way to word it, but that's exactly what it does.
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No, this is not quite correct. Unless you are rooted, you cannot disable Doze completely, and the exclusion you mention doesn't work 100%.

From Android's official website: https://developer.android.com/train...doze-standby.html#support_for_other_use_cases
An app that is whitelisted can use the network and hold partial wake locks during Doze and App Standby. However, other restrictions still apply to the whitelisted app, just as they do to other apps. For example, the whitelisted app’s jobs and syncs are deferred, and its regular AlarmManager alarms do not fire.
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For example, the k9 development team still hasn't figured out what to do: https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/issues/857

The Aquamail developer faces the same dilemma: https://www.aqua-mail.com/forum/index.php?topic=4858.msg28029#msg28029

It's a shame. It's a real shame. Android has gone from one extreme to the other: from a dysfunctional OS which can cause battery drain because apps keep firing up for no reason even when you don't want them to, to one which, in its misguided attempts to improve battery life, prevents the app you want from running in the background when you want them to. Someone one please remind me, what's the difference with Apple's closed ecosystem and 'my-way-or-the-highway' approach?
 
A few comments:
1. For several apps, you list https://github.com/site/privacy as the privacy policy.
I might be missing something, but I cannot find why the privacy policy of the programs whose code is hosted on github would have to adhere to the same policy.

2. Even if that is the case, I cannot find any reference to k-@ being hosted on github.

3. The empty website for K-@ has a note "we are in the process of setting up a new website" and it is dated Friday, 26 February 2016 16:28 (it's been over half a year):
http://www.1gravity.com/
I don't know what has been happening with it (so, I don't want to judge them, especially, since I see a rather strange "We are volunteers" on that website, even though 1gravity was listed as an LLC on its previous site [as seen on Archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20160109053252/http://1gravity.com/ ]).
But it is not a very good sign.
And, obviously, there is no privacy policy to be found on non-existing website.
 
RakeAnAcre said:
Aquamail has been acquired by MobiSystems... I sure hope this does not affect the existing privacy policy.
https://www.mobisystems.com/news/aqua-mail-becomes-a-part-of-the-mobisystems-family-159/
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Aquamail new owners have sneakily introduce analytics to the app. That is pretty concerning as they will Pinsky it this to start pushing ads and maybe even spam to their app and the email addresses.

It has been confirmed in their forums. I'll be leaving them because of this.
 
munecito said:
Aquamail new owners have sneakily introduce analytics to the app. That is pretty concerning as they will Pinsky it this to start pushing ads and maybe even spam to their app and the email addresses.

It has been confirmed in their forums. I'll be leaving them because of this.
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Why is such a hysterical reaction?
While I would have preferred Aquamail remaining without any analytics, it's by far the mildest what could have happened when an app is purchased by a company that is interested in getting return on investment. Even with that, it remains one of the best e-mail apps with respect to privacy and security.
Yes, it makes sense to watch how it might change (if it will), but until then, there is no reason to panic. And, there is always a possibility of keeping the pre-MobiSystems version and not updating (as long as you don't need Exchange Push).

@munecito Tell me that you have nothing that runs analytics on your phone.
 
Other than google search I don't have anything with analytics. No facebook, no twitter, no google maps, no gmail. Heck if it was up to me I would be gladly carrying a beeper but a phone is required for work.

My work email had not received a spam in 3 years because it is only for internal use. They add analytics and I get a spammy email related to real estate in the first week.
 
munecito said:
Other than google search I don't have anything with analytics.
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HAR!
That Google [search] app has already more analytics than Aquamail or many other apps. Just look at its permissions (most of which are not really needed for web search).
And then, if we dig deeper, we might find something else that is "calling to the base". It's really hard in today's world to avoid analytics, especially in smart phones.

munecito said:
No facebook, no twitter, no google maps, no gmail. Heck if it was up to me I would be gladly carrying a beeper but a phone is required for work.
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They still sell flip phones!
 
There's probably only one way to keep email truly private and away from whatever analytics, data mining and prying eyes, and that's using strong encryption on the client side, like using PGP with a known open source email client, such as K9, found on F-droid...

K-9 Mail (Full-featured email client) - https://f-droid.org/app/com.fsck.k9

Unless an email is encrypted, it's no more private than a postcard going via snail-mail.

Don't always believe what you read in privacy policies, especially if the whatever it is email app is "free" and comes from China.
 
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StRanger said:
HAR!
That Google [search] app has already more analytics than Aquamail or many other apps. Just look at its permissions (most of which are not really needed for web search).
And then, if we dig deeper, we might find something else that is "calling to the base". It's really hard in today's world to avoid analytics, especially in smart phones.


They still sell flip phones!
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As if you could not be traced with those. Hahahaha
 
I would have used GMail as an IMAP. Gmail asked it they could scan all mail in Aquamail. Told them to get lost.

My provider is now sending ads that sound like spam. Looking for a paid provider to get rid of ads. I don't WANT a $50 gift certificate to Macy's.

I use NoScript on the computer - you would be surprised over who uses what.
 
What do you think about Maildroid?
They use Flurry and Fiksu traking

I think aquamail or k-9 are better soluitions.
 
I've been with aqua mail for some time but now trying out blue mail apparently it's better lay out if you use a tablet.
 
wigfield said:
I've been with aqua mail for some time but now trying out blue mail apparently it's better lay out if you use a tablet.
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Feonor said:
Maybe blue mail is not the best solution in terms of privacy...
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My fault i didn't know topic was about privacy just got a alert for this thread but didn't look as to what it was.

Anyway my reason from moving from Aquamail to blue mail,with aqua mail if i start of doing a message say on my tablet then save it then i carry on with the message on my phone when i open up the draft it quotes of the draft like im replying to it. Bluemail doesn't do this if you fisnish off the email on your phone its just like you are finishing it off on your tablet.

But now having second thoughts about how secure bluemail is.
 
zuben el genub said:
What's with K-9? It used to be a paid app. $9,99 if I remember right.
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K-9 has never been a pay for app, it's an Open Source email project that's been around since 2008 (not too long after Android was first released to the public). Perhaps you're thinking of some other email app?
 
patrickdrd said:
here:
sklar.com/2014/10/14/blue-mail

testedonmyself.com/2015/06/type-mail-what-about-privacy.html?m=1
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A rant from 2014 by someone who had an issue about how an email app doesn't include a function he wants is not a 'privacy' issue.
 
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