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First car

Let's step back and look at the big picture.

Cars in general are a big expense. Especially used cars that may not have been properly maintained. There's no greater risk than buying used because usually most good used cars get sold to friends or family. Or they get traded in to a dealer. When dealing with either a dealer or a used car lot like Carfax, the car is only as good as what that lot buys and how well they are inspected. Even with the most comprehensive inspection their are still risks.

The good businesses like CarMax spend large sums of money buying, inspecting, repairing and detailing cars before putting them up for sale. Done right as CarMax does results in good cars at a fair price, but never cheap. You get what you pay for. Cheap used cars generally result in big repair bills at some point in time, usually when you least expect it.
You make a good point.

I'm have been looking at cars on carmax a while. Except I'm looking at cars out of my league. Dodge challenger, Mustang, camaro, those types of cars haha.

However IRL I have been looking at impalas. I just love that type of car and would love to have one.

I will buy a car when ever my Grandma's 2002 Taurus breaks down. Until then I'll keep putting money into savings to make a good down payment on a car that should last.
 
Been a while since I posted here.

On the verge of buying a car SOON. like 3 days soon. Im looking at this 2009 Chevy Impala for under $6,000. I have that money, and can buy the car on the spot and just worry about making insurance.
 
You might want to check with an insurance group to see what you are up against. Insurance for a young male isn't cheap... mostly because they fall into the greatest risk group. :(

I hope you can make it all work. The Impala should be great wheels for you.
 
Been a while since I posted here.

On the verge of buying a car SOON. like 3 days soon. Im looking at this 2009 Chevy Impala for under $6,000. I have that money, and can buy the car on the spot and just worry about making insurance.

I rarely post here in the lounge, but saw your thread mentioned on the Phandroid News bulletin, so I figured I'd chime in. I'm a Moderator on a car forum, although it's not a make that I'd recommend as a "first car," unless one can afford the maintenance or plans on DIY.

Seems like you have been eyeing Chevy Impalas. I'm sure there are several forums that could help you make the proper decision, for your needs. Aside from that, if there are other makes/models that you'd love to consider, but just feel like you couldn't afford, the car enthusiast forums are actually a great place to go, especially the make specific forums, where many participants have had a lot of experience with that specific car or make or they are heavy enthusiasts.

#1 thing I'd recommend, as far as pre-owned car puchasing is concerned, is if the maintenance is going to be affordable to you (that's also if, you don't plan on DIY fixes).

Nowadays, DIY is a little more complicated with newer cars due to the multiple Electronics connected to the cars and the cpu. That said, there are many resources to help you do DIY's, if it interests you.

Good luck on your purchase.
 
I rarely post here in the lounge, but saw your thread mentioned on the Phandroid News bulletin, so I figured I'd chime in. I'm a Moderator on a car forum, although it's not a make that I'd recommend as a "first car," unless one can afford the maintenance or plans on DIY.

Seems like you have been eyeing Chevy Impalas. I'm sure there are several forums that could help you make the proper decision, for your needs. Aside from that, if there are other makes/models that you'd love to consider, but just feel like you couldn't afford, the car enthusiast forums are actually a great place to go, especially the make specific forums, where many participants have had a lot of experience with that specific car or make or they are heavy enthusiasts.

#1 thing I'd recommend, as far as pre-owned car puchasing is concerned, is if the maintenance is going to be affordable to you (that's also if, you don't plan on DIY fixes).

Nowadays, DIY is a little more complicated with newer cars due to the multiple Electronics connected to the cars and the cpu. That said, there are many resources to help you do DIY's, if it interests you.

Good luck on your purchase.
Here's what I think. I'm not much of a DIY person, but because I really want this vehicle, and have some sort of love for it, I would hope that my dad and I can do whatever needs to be done with it. I don't know much about cars, but he used to be a mechanic so he knows pretty much everything there is to know.

It'd be good for him to teach me the ins and outs of fixing a vehicle. Great to spend some quality time together.
 
Here's what I think. I'm not much of a DIY person, but because I really want this vehicle, and have some sort of love for it, I would hope that my dad and I can do whatever needs to be done with it. I don't know much about cars, but he used to be a mechanic so he knows pretty much everything there is to know.

It'd be good for him to teach me the ins and outs of fixing a vehicle. Great to spend some quality time together.

If you really want that particular vehicle and your Dad used to be a mechanic, then the standard maintenance should be a breeze! And you have the right mindset that, if you really want it that you'd put more love and attention into it than just any other car.

And yes, learning from a trained mechanic is the best way to start DIY's. By the time you're looking to get into your 2nd car, you'll be knowledgable enough to do certain DIY's, while learning the intricacies of the new car that would be different.

Here's a good analogy. There are many in the world that are just barely purchasing their first smartphone (not just Android, but any of the current smartphone OS's). For those that pick Android as their first smartphone, they come to where they feel they'll get the most intricate advice that they may not get elsewhere, and we've seen/met many new Android Forum members, due to this being their forum of choice...but, once they've gotten a taste of Android and truly get some valuable advice about learning the OS, it's really up to their own merit of really allowing Android to enhance their experience, rather than not taking advantage of all the OS has to offer. So, by the time they are ready to upgrade, if they've picked up on Android quite well and love the experience, then they can take their Android Experience to another level with their next phone, while still knowing that they might select a phone that has a slightly different UI, than what they experienced with their first phone. If they didn't quite take to their Android experience that well, they can opt to go with an iPhone/Windows Phone or maybe even take a step back to Blackberry, but the basics/foundation of using a smartphone will already be there for them.

In essence, your 1st car experience and learning will all be up to how much you are willing to put into it. From the sounds of it, you're already on the way to a great start. I only wish my father knew anything about cars, so that I could work on my first car by myself. Lucky for me, my Uncles were all experienced with car maintenance, as well as some older cousins, so I wasn't short of resources, but if my father were as much of an enthusiast as I became...would've made for some fun times working on the car on Sunday afternoons. After 21 years of being a true car enthusiast, since I turned 16, I can't say that I got to the point of being a "mechanic," or ever being able to be a mechanic at any point, but I've learned enough that I'm able to join in car speak conversations, without saying anything ignorant and actually comprehend some technicalities that I never would have before, had it not been a hobby that I'd always wanted to have in my pocket.

One caveat, once you do get to making more money, be very careful not to let the "mod" bug hit you too heavily. I know it hit me hard, once I finished college and landed an amazing career. Modding cars can be extremely fun, but at the same time, take a huge hit to your wallet!

Enjoy!
 
Just make sure you get good insurance not the minimum. Its very attractive but if you dont get enough you might end up car-less. When getting into accidents in older cars 9/10 it will cost more to fix it than its worth and they will give you the value of the car and take the car and offer a chance to buy it back and thats if your not at fault and the person that hits you has insurance. If your at fault and you have cut rate insurance you better hope your car is drivable because you will soon find out how much they care about you.

My first car was made the same year i was born and i was 19 in 2010 and i was obesessive about its working order but never afraid to DIY it and i bet i saved thousands i know i did because i changed all the brake lines myself( that was a trip to the junk yard id never forget).but i let my dad talk me into letting someone else fix on it an it died from their shoddy work. but it lasted 3 years and i paid $1000 cash so i think i was the winner.

Your really gonna cherish your second car. Now thats the one you bring out all the stops on. Went from a 1991 Oldsmobile Cutless Ciera to a 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT spent half a year trying to find a stock unriced version(later found some broken neon tubing under it) Unfortunately some idiot ran a stop sign and banged me up bad and now i drive a 2010 Nissan Sentra 1.3liter :( man i miss the horsepower but yea that second car phew.

Most importantly always get the car you want not what anyone else tells you becuase once you buy it taking it back is near impossible.
 
2009 is not that old. And of course get good insurance.

I don't intend to mod cars. Just if something is problematic with my car, I want to have the know how to fix it myself. No mods.
 
2009 is not that old. And of course get good insurance.

I don't intend to mod cars. Just if something is problematic with my car, I want to have the know how to fix it myself. No mods.

Then sounds like you are at the point that you know what you want already. Just a matter of making sure that price you are paying is fair. And I agree, 2009 is not necessarily "old." In fact, I just purchased a pre-owned vehicle as a 2nd car and it is in impeccable condition.
 
Then sounds like you are at the point that you know what you want already. Just a matter of making sure that price you are paying is fair. And I agree, 2009 is not necessarily "old." In fact, I just purchased a pre-owned vehicle as a 2nd car and it is in impeccable condition.
I really enjoy the impala line. I think even for my second car, it may be a brand new impala. Like a 2020 impala. But that's ages away.
 
I really enjoy the impala line. I think even for my second car, it may be a brand new impala. Like a 2020 impala. But that's ages away.

That is great. And I wouldn't close yourself off to mods. Once you find a community forum for Impalas, similar to what you have found here for Android, you may change your tune. Make sure to post up pics of the car you end up with, once you get it.
 
That is great. And I wouldn't close yourself off to mods. Once you find a community forum for Impalas, similar to what you have found here for Android, you may change your tune. Make sure to post up pics of the car you end up with, once you get it.

I see what you did there. ;-)
 
I don't get it. What did he do? Mods. Tune?
A tune is a mod applied to the car's engine management computer. After you throw a bunch of bolt-ons at a car, it's generally a good idea to get a tune, which helps the car take advantage of the new hardware (by adjusting timing, fuel maps, boost levels, etc.).
 
Okey doke

I wanted to ask about fuel. The impala can make sure of flex fuel, or e85 fuel. 85% ethanol and 15% gas.

Which fuel is better for the lifespan of the engine?

Which fuel is better for gas mileage?
 
Okey doke

I wanted to ask about fuel. The impala can make sure of flex fuel, or e85 fuel. 85% ethanol and 15% gas.

Which fuel is better for the lifespan of the engine?

Which fuel is better for gas mileage?

I'd check with the impala specific forums to see how the engine responds and what the experience might be for the engine that is in the 2009 MY. I'm not familiar enough with the Impala to comment and the make I'm a moderator for doesn't have any cars that could use e85. Actually, I'm not even sure CA has e85 offerings, due to the strict emissions.
 
Heck, I may be getting my brothers old aveo, because it broke down in Michigan. The dealership can't come and get it, so they said they may sell it to my dad. He could fix it up, and I could drive it. Though I will have to learn to drive a stick shift.
 
Heck, I may be getting my brothers old aveo, because it broke down in Michigan. The dealership can't come and get it, so they said they may sell it to my dad. He could fix it up, and I could drive it. Though I will have to learn to drive a stick shift.

Stick shift isn't that difficult to learn. Just make sure whoever teaches you is patient...LOL. And learn how to engage 1st gear on hills right away.
 
On this side of the pond, you learn how to drive in a hand shifted car. Automatic gearing is for the disabled. :rolleyes:
 
On this side of the pond, you learn how to drive in a hand shifted car. Automatic gearing is for the disabled. :rolleyes:
Yes but that side of the pond, you shift with your left hand. Call me crazy but most people are right handed. That would be tedious.
 
Yes but that side of the pond, you shift with your left hand. Call me crazy but most people are right handed. That would be tedious.

Err... That left handedness is just in the UK and Ireland. Europe is a whole lot larger than that ;)
 
^ That being said, I drove a right-hand-drive stickshift Hilux while I was in Afghanistan. Adapting to shifting with my left hand was not nearly as difficult as I thought it would be. And I suck at doing things with my left hand.
 
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