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Flat Earth Believers... I DONT GET IT!!!!

Mat 4:8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.

The first question is whether to take this verse, the third temptation, literally or in other cognisance.

If taken literally we need explanations. Which was that very high mountain, where one can see the Kingdoms of the world ? This is followed by another question, that when the earth is spherical, how could Satan show him all the kingdoms of the world.

  1. There were higher mountains in the near vicinity. Both Barnes and Clarke (e sword commentaries) suggest this. Abbe Maritti ( Travels through Cyprus) speaks of a mountain on which he was, which answers to the description here. “This part of the mountain,” says he, “overlooks the mountains of Arabia, the country of Gilead, the country of the Amorites, the plains of Moab, the plains of Jericho, the River Jordan, and the whole extent of the Dead Sea.” Other references and findings of the Palestinian studies also reveal this.
  2. The highest mountain on the face of the globe could not suffice to make evident even one hemisphere of the earth, and the other must of necessity be in darkness. Pointing to this verse, one can not conclude that Scripture is contradicting the scientific spherical nature of the earth. Like Moses had seen the Canaan from the top of Mt Piscah, there are areal views (like we see in aeroplane). That does not mean earth is flat.
  3. The term “world” in the Bible is often used in this limited sense to denote a part or a large part of the world, particularly the land of Canaan. See Rom_4:13, where it means the land of Judah; also Luk_2:1 (Barnes). In those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered. So when Mathew said about the world, he might have mentioned the land of Judea only.
  4. The high mountain may also mean other things. This can be either a physical or a spiritual high place. KJV translates as mountain 41 times, mount 21 times, and hill three times (Strong). This demonstrates that there is no clue as to exactly where and what.

  5. The text could be a figure of speech but that still would not dilute the message in the text. The writer was speaking from his point of view as many of them did many times in explaining things to us in scripture. The point was the temptations and how Christ dealt with Satan on the questions.
Conclusion: The concepts of the passages are more important than the literal aspects. However the above explanations are quite convincing to believe that Jesus reaching the top of a mountain can be a physical exercise only. The view of the global world is not important here. What ever was shown or viewed, was also part of the earthly kingdom and Satan is the prince of the air (John 14:30) Eph 2:2). One of the major themes of Christ’s teaching is about the Kingdom of God. Through out the gospel, Mathew refers to the “Kingdom of God” again and again. It is interesting to note that this concept first emerges from here. Jesus denied any worldly Kingdom because He was the bringer of the Kingdom of God.

( By :Godwin Nickelson) M:9426426305
 
I know but I thought this would make good conversation because it's pertaining to the same subject and it may been the first known theory of the flat Earth theory.
 
Correlation is not causation

BUT I've never met a flat earther, who wasn't also a idiotic, racist, sexist, ****ist, arsonist.

(this may however be down to my rather small sample size)
Heeeeeey now! I am a "flatxist!" i can prove it too. i live on the "edge" of earf right now and on windy days i nearly get blown off into the abyss below.

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i have never met a flat-earther... but i would not be surprised if they are low-IQ ..

Bible being the first documentation of flat earth theory?
i dont think so...

Greeks had stories.. and warnings about sailing off the edge
 
@Harron is right… . flat-earth was mostly Legends and parables or early beliefs out of ignorance. Even the Bible acknowledges the shape of the earth if we want to get the most ancient of proof its round
 
This subject is like politics and religion there is no end to the possibilities of discussion because there is no one and nothing that can prove either or
The government tell you they spent 10 billion dollars in space, my take on that is go to outer space and see for yourself and 100% of the possibilities is you will never find out personally. End of discussion.
 
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But the Greeks also not only deduced that the world was round but made quite a reasonable estimate of its size.

They knew the difference between legends, parables and geography.

yes.. there were some that guessed that they lived on a round object.
but like the general public still believed it was flat.

reverse of today... most agree it is round
some.. small group think it is flat

This subject is like politics and religion there is no end to the possibilities of discussion because there is no one and nothing that can prove either or
The government tell you they spent 10 billion dollars in space, my take on that is go to outer space and see for yourself and 100% of the possibilities is you will never find out personally. End of discussion.


my basic common sense.. and low power of deductions...
tells me ... it is round.
dont need 10 billion.. dont need 10 million... dont need 10 dollars.

but i guess u are being sarcastic.. so :P
 
yes.. there were some that guessed that they lived on a round object.
but like the general public still believed it was flat.

reverse of today... most agree it is round
some.. small group think it is flat




my basic common sense.. and low power of deductions...
tells me ... it is round.
dont need 10 billion.. dont need 10 million... dont need 10 dollars.

but i guess u are being sarcastic.. so :p

Like I said I thought the Earth was Square because I've already visited two corners of the globe and hope to visit the other two before I die.:D
 
Like I said I thought the Earth was Square because I've already visited two corners of the globe and hope to visit the other two before I die.:D

square globe? ok..
but if it is so... there are 8 corners .. in a square

i think mount Everest is one corner.
 
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