larrytxeast
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Last Friday, exactly a week ago, I changed my F3, which I'd had since a week after the past Thanksgiving, over to the Tribute. I had pondered getting a Volt, but as I'm a cheapskate, I hadn't done so yet. I learned of the Tribute, and decided to go for it as a "compromise" of sorts.
Since many F3 users (and I was one) seem to be considering the Tribute, but there is no LG Tribute forum, I thought I'd post my detailed "after a week of usage" impressions for any considering it. (There is a CNET review and they give good remarks on it, for what that's worth.)
Short answer--unless the KitKat SD issue is huge for you, I'd go for it if you're ready to move on from the F3 but you don't want to spend $150 on the LG Volt.
Now, for the details.
It Feels More Refined and Smoother
The LG F3 had never been a phone that I had issues with in terms of its "lag" or whatever, but over time that had changed, even after wiping the phone. This seemed to happen after the system updates that you are relentlessly nagged about, but I won't say for sure (nor can I determine which version was the point when I started noticing this). It did start to improve a bit when I installed an app called "App Cache Cleaner" by INFOLIFE, but by that point, my feelings about the phone had become "tainted" I guess you could say, even though the app helped things somewhat. I'll elaborate on that here for a bit.
GPS is Faster
In particular, the GPS, which had always been rock-solid, started becoming more iffy. Understand--I keep GPS functionality turned off until I need it, and expect the phone to "get a lock" quickly upon enabling it. (Location services sans GPS is typically always on, though.) The F3 always had been quick to do that, but now it would take a good 2-odd minutes or so, versus the 5-10 seconds it had previously required.
With the Tribute, the GPS locks on QUICKLY, even with me having GPS disabled until I need it. This is a HUGE deal for me.
UPDATE, November 14th--I've now had the phone for 2 weeks, and I can say, in my experience anyway, this phone has the fastest GPS I've ever seen, perhaps even beating ones like the LG Optimus V. I typically leave GPS functionality turned off until I need it, I then turn GPS on, fire up Maps, Waze or GPS Status, and look for a quick lock despite the fact that it's "waking up from hibernating" as it were. This phone has not disappointed, it locks on INSTANTLY. If you are like me and want a phone with fast and sure GPS, this will not disappoint.
One observation, I may be repeating myself--GPS is not as much of an off/on as before. Before, with Jellybean on the F3, you had quick access in the notifications area to switching GPS off/on quickly. Now, if you do that, using the "Location" bubble that's now where GPS was (in the notifications area)you will also turn off all location services, goofing up apps like Weatherbug which depend on having at least "network" location services operating. To turn off GPS but without turning off "network" location services, you have to go to the main settings.
Fortunately, I found a "widget app" called "GPS On Off Widget" that gives you quick homescreen access to these settings, and it also shows you Off/On with respect to GPS status. This has helped a lot with quickly engaging GPS when I need it but also quickly turning GPS ALONE off when I'm done.
Also, with respect to "lag," when I back out of apps or go home etc, it doesn't "lag" as much doing that as the F3 had been doing as of late (although, again, the App Cache Cleaner did help somewhat).
Maybe it's the KitKat software, maybe it's newer specs, I don't know, but overall I find the Tribute to be "smoother" and considerably less "laggy" than the F3 had been as of late.
Battery Life
So far, battery life seems about the same as my F3. I can get through the day, BARELY so. I carry "power bank" batteries on me, on most days a single 2600mah one (or something like the PNY T2200) is enough to ensure it lasts all day with plenty to spare.
Display
At first, I was disappointed at how the on-screen buttons of the Tribute (vs capacitive/physical of the F3) ate into the screen real estate of this newer phone. I still feel that way somewhat. It means that the 4.5" size is not as much of an improvement over the 4" as it could be at times.
Still, it is an improvement. It seems a bit crisper and "punchier," and I can get more icons on the home-screen than before (apparently the screen is wider). I use Apex launcher, and on the F3 I could manage a 5x4 layout. On the Tribute, I can squeeze in a 5x5 layout. That amounts to 5 extra icons on the homescreen. (I still have 6 icons in the "dock" on the bottom, as before.)
Speaking of Apex, on my F3, often-times it would "forget" I wanted to use Apex and would return to the "stock" LG home screen, and I'd have to call up Apex again. That isn't happening on my Tribute, and I much appreciate not having to constantly remind it that way.
I didn't notice the presence of a notification LED (the F3 had one located around the physical home button). No matter, I use the NoLED app (madmack) for those purposes anyway.
I Love "Knock-On" For Waking Up the Screen
At first, I missed having the physical home button for one major reason--it was how I "woke up" my F3 without having to mess with that tiny, hard to reach (and prone to wear, I figure) power button on the side. Now I was apparently going to having to mess with the power button on my Tribute, and I wasn't caring much for that.
Not to worry, Totally by accident, I discovered that you can "wake up" the screen on the Tribute simply by tapping on it twice quickly (sometimes it takes a second try). That was a big relief for me, I not only don't have to fiddle with a tiny power button as I thought I'd have to on my Tribute, I also prefer it to pressing the physical home button as I did on my F3.
I did change the unlock method from the "knock-code" style to "draw pattern," the same as on my F3.
On-Screen Buttons Vs Capacitive Buttons
Also, over time, I've come to prefer having a non-physical home button in the general sense, it's smoother vs having to press the F3's button quite so hard. (That said, off-screen capacitive buttons could've done the same thing.)
At first, I missed the absence of a dedicated menu button. However, I learned from a previous posting {link} a really important thing--that "long-pressing" the recent apps button activates a menu button.
That was a huge help for me with many apps. For instance, I use Opera Mini a lot, and I have always set the navigation bar to the "off" setting, as I can call it up with the menu key when I need it and this saves screen real estate. Initially, I was having to change the settings to have the navigation bar on display at all times, eating up screen real estate. Once I realized this trick, I was able to revert back to hiding the navigation bar. This pleased me greatly.
Also, in the Facebook app, one of the first things you will want to do is turn off the video auto-play feature. Getting to those settings without a menu button requires quite a trip (I can't even recall where exactly). However, again, long-press the recent-apps button--there you go. In Dolphin Mini, there are certain settings you can only get to via a menu button, I saw no way to get there as there is no "gears" icon. Again, long-press recent apps, there you go.
Quick-Settings Under Notifications Not As Good To Me
One thing they changed for the worse was the LG quick settings bar located under the notifications area. On the F3, it was more customizable and had more options. I could turn GPS off yet still have location services on, for one. On the Tribute, that button is now "Location," and turning it off turns off ALL location services, when all I wanted to do was turn off the GPS part. I thus now have to use the Quick Settings APP I also have installed (I used it on my F3 also) to change the GPS settings. However, I can still use the Locations icon under navigations to quickly enable GPS when I need it, I simply have to go the longer route for turning off GPS without also turning off all location services.
Also, I prefer the brightness BUTTON of the F3 to the "slider" on the Tribute, as the "slider" eats up too much screen real estate. Again, I now use the "slider" on the Quick Settings APP.
The "quickslide" apps is gone now, oh well, I didn't use it, and that frees up screen real estate in the notifications area.
The Big Gotcha--KitKat and microSD
You guessed it, and somehow I forgot about this when I bought the phone. (I don't regret my purchase, though, despite this issue, because the phone is smoother and thus doesn't inflame my temper that way.)
Yes, with KitKat, you now have a major crippling with respect to microSD support. On other phones which are supported for root, you can work your way around this, but the LG Tribute, at the time I write this, is not yet supported for rooting, hence the issue.
This may be more of an issue with other people than it is with me. In my case, I don't have a lot of media on my phone, I still use a stand-alone MP3 player, and the few video files I do have on there are .mp4 files which came from my computer, and I'd be apt to upload those to the phone via the card reader route anyway.
I use microSD mainly for having "File Expert" create .apk files of my apps, and for having my favorite resized photos synced via Google Drive. With the former, I can still do this simply having having File Expert write the files to internal memory initially and then use the STOCK file manager (not ES File Explorer any longer) to move them where they need to ultimately go.
That is an important point to make--you still can move files to the microSD, or from one spot on the microSD to the other, with the "stock" file manager program.
The main thing that's broken for me, besides now having to use the "stock" file manager vs ES File Explorer for many things, is that now the auto-syncing of my favorite photos from PC to phone now will have to reside in internal memory. (If I subsequently move the files to microSD, the app, "Autosync For Google Drive," will mistakenly resync all the photos again unnecessarily.) I suppose I could set it up this way and then have the "stock" file manager instead COPY the photos to the microSD (vs moving them), after all, the photos only add up to about 200 megabytes total.
Regardless, it does mean that it's another thing to mess with if I have to "wipe" my phone, I've always taken comfort that I had all of that on the microSD before, safe from any "wiping."
That Said (Apps to SD Card)
UPDATE November 11th--one thing I forgot, the Tribute, unlike the F3 as I understand it (unless you root the F3), lets you move apps to the microSD card. This can be of much help with making sure the internal memory has plenty of breathing room. In my case, it would allow me room for having Autosync for Google Drive sync the resized JPEGs to the internal memory, as there would now be plenty of room for this. (I could still always make backup copies to the microSD so if I wipe the phone it wouldn't take as long for it to re-sync etc.)
In Closing
Unless the KitKat SD issue is a huge one (again, I don't like it, but I work around it using the "stock" file manager, and I don't have tons of media files I'm moving around all of the time), I would go for the Tribute if you have the F3 and want something else but don't want to spend $150 on the LG Volt. Compared to the F3, it's smoother, apps don't stutter/stick/lag as much, the display is better even if not as much as 4.5 vs 4 would suggest, the GPS locks quickly, and the issues I thought would be a problem (no physical home button for "waking" up the phone, no visible menu key) all worked themselves out very well.
Also, I was concerned because, due to the fact that the LG Tribute has only been on the market about a month when I'm writing this, I couldn't find a case for my Tribute like the one I had for my F3. It was a "rigid" case with a kickstand for VERTICAL usage (I do not like using my phone horizontally except when watching a video clip etc). When I looked, initially they were all showing as being only available as a pre-order due to ship out on Nov 28th. I found one available immediately for $8 {link}.
My F3 now resides in the drawer, simply there in case this one gets lost or broken. Other than using "Colornote" on it in the kitchen for looking up recipes without exposing my new Tribute to "kitchen chaos," or for having on hand so if my Tribute gets lost or broken I can immediately have a working phone right away, I am totally switched over and am happy for doing it. As long as I can curb "LG Volt lust" (or doing something really rash and going to Verizon so I can get an LG G3 or such), I am good now, and glad to have retired my F3.
Since many F3 users (and I was one) seem to be considering the Tribute, but there is no LG Tribute forum, I thought I'd post my detailed "after a week of usage" impressions for any considering it. (There is a CNET review and they give good remarks on it, for what that's worth.)
Short answer--unless the KitKat SD issue is huge for you, I'd go for it if you're ready to move on from the F3 but you don't want to spend $150 on the LG Volt.
Now, for the details.
It Feels More Refined and Smoother
The LG F3 had never been a phone that I had issues with in terms of its "lag" or whatever, but over time that had changed, even after wiping the phone. This seemed to happen after the system updates that you are relentlessly nagged about, but I won't say for sure (nor can I determine which version was the point when I started noticing this). It did start to improve a bit when I installed an app called "App Cache Cleaner" by INFOLIFE, but by that point, my feelings about the phone had become "tainted" I guess you could say, even though the app helped things somewhat. I'll elaborate on that here for a bit.
GPS is Faster
In particular, the GPS, which had always been rock-solid, started becoming more iffy. Understand--I keep GPS functionality turned off until I need it, and expect the phone to "get a lock" quickly upon enabling it. (Location services sans GPS is typically always on, though.) The F3 always had been quick to do that, but now it would take a good 2-odd minutes or so, versus the 5-10 seconds it had previously required.
With the Tribute, the GPS locks on QUICKLY, even with me having GPS disabled until I need it. This is a HUGE deal for me.
UPDATE, November 14th--I've now had the phone for 2 weeks, and I can say, in my experience anyway, this phone has the fastest GPS I've ever seen, perhaps even beating ones like the LG Optimus V. I typically leave GPS functionality turned off until I need it, I then turn GPS on, fire up Maps, Waze or GPS Status, and look for a quick lock despite the fact that it's "waking up from hibernating" as it were. This phone has not disappointed, it locks on INSTANTLY. If you are like me and want a phone with fast and sure GPS, this will not disappoint.
One observation, I may be repeating myself--GPS is not as much of an off/on as before. Before, with Jellybean on the F3, you had quick access in the notifications area to switching GPS off/on quickly. Now, if you do that, using the "Location" bubble that's now where GPS was (in the notifications area)you will also turn off all location services, goofing up apps like Weatherbug which depend on having at least "network" location services operating. To turn off GPS but without turning off "network" location services, you have to go to the main settings.
Fortunately, I found a "widget app" called "GPS On Off Widget" that gives you quick homescreen access to these settings, and it also shows you Off/On with respect to GPS status. This has helped a lot with quickly engaging GPS when I need it but also quickly turning GPS ALONE off when I'm done.
Also, with respect to "lag," when I back out of apps or go home etc, it doesn't "lag" as much doing that as the F3 had been doing as of late (although, again, the App Cache Cleaner did help somewhat).
Maybe it's the KitKat software, maybe it's newer specs, I don't know, but overall I find the Tribute to be "smoother" and considerably less "laggy" than the F3 had been as of late.
Battery Life
So far, battery life seems about the same as my F3. I can get through the day, BARELY so. I carry "power bank" batteries on me, on most days a single 2600mah one (or something like the PNY T2200) is enough to ensure it lasts all day with plenty to spare.
Display
At first, I was disappointed at how the on-screen buttons of the Tribute (vs capacitive/physical of the F3) ate into the screen real estate of this newer phone. I still feel that way somewhat. It means that the 4.5" size is not as much of an improvement over the 4" as it could be at times.
Still, it is an improvement. It seems a bit crisper and "punchier," and I can get more icons on the home-screen than before (apparently the screen is wider). I use Apex launcher, and on the F3 I could manage a 5x4 layout. On the Tribute, I can squeeze in a 5x5 layout. That amounts to 5 extra icons on the homescreen. (I still have 6 icons in the "dock" on the bottom, as before.)
Speaking of Apex, on my F3, often-times it would "forget" I wanted to use Apex and would return to the "stock" LG home screen, and I'd have to call up Apex again. That isn't happening on my Tribute, and I much appreciate not having to constantly remind it that way.
I didn't notice the presence of a notification LED (the F3 had one located around the physical home button). No matter, I use the NoLED app (madmack) for those purposes anyway.
I Love "Knock-On" For Waking Up the Screen
At first, I missed having the physical home button for one major reason--it was how I "woke up" my F3 without having to mess with that tiny, hard to reach (and prone to wear, I figure) power button on the side. Now I was apparently going to having to mess with the power button on my Tribute, and I wasn't caring much for that.
Not to worry, Totally by accident, I discovered that you can "wake up" the screen on the Tribute simply by tapping on it twice quickly (sometimes it takes a second try). That was a big relief for me, I not only don't have to fiddle with a tiny power button as I thought I'd have to on my Tribute, I also prefer it to pressing the physical home button as I did on my F3.
I did change the unlock method from the "knock-code" style to "draw pattern," the same as on my F3.
On-Screen Buttons Vs Capacitive Buttons
Also, over time, I've come to prefer having a non-physical home button in the general sense, it's smoother vs having to press the F3's button quite so hard. (That said, off-screen capacitive buttons could've done the same thing.)
At first, I missed the absence of a dedicated menu button. However, I learned from a previous posting {link} a really important thing--that "long-pressing" the recent apps button activates a menu button.
That was a huge help for me with many apps. For instance, I use Opera Mini a lot, and I have always set the navigation bar to the "off" setting, as I can call it up with the menu key when I need it and this saves screen real estate. Initially, I was having to change the settings to have the navigation bar on display at all times, eating up screen real estate. Once I realized this trick, I was able to revert back to hiding the navigation bar. This pleased me greatly.
Also, in the Facebook app, one of the first things you will want to do is turn off the video auto-play feature. Getting to those settings without a menu button requires quite a trip (I can't even recall where exactly). However, again, long-press the recent-apps button--there you go. In Dolphin Mini, there are certain settings you can only get to via a menu button, I saw no way to get there as there is no "gears" icon. Again, long-press recent apps, there you go.
Quick-Settings Under Notifications Not As Good To Me
One thing they changed for the worse was the LG quick settings bar located under the notifications area. On the F3, it was more customizable and had more options. I could turn GPS off yet still have location services on, for one. On the Tribute, that button is now "Location," and turning it off turns off ALL location services, when all I wanted to do was turn off the GPS part. I thus now have to use the Quick Settings APP I also have installed (I used it on my F3 also) to change the GPS settings. However, I can still use the Locations icon under navigations to quickly enable GPS when I need it, I simply have to go the longer route for turning off GPS without also turning off all location services.
Also, I prefer the brightness BUTTON of the F3 to the "slider" on the Tribute, as the "slider" eats up too much screen real estate. Again, I now use the "slider" on the Quick Settings APP.
The "quickslide" apps is gone now, oh well, I didn't use it, and that frees up screen real estate in the notifications area.
The Big Gotcha--KitKat and microSD
You guessed it, and somehow I forgot about this when I bought the phone. (I don't regret my purchase, though, despite this issue, because the phone is smoother and thus doesn't inflame my temper that way.)
Yes, with KitKat, you now have a major crippling with respect to microSD support. On other phones which are supported for root, you can work your way around this, but the LG Tribute, at the time I write this, is not yet supported for rooting, hence the issue.
This may be more of an issue with other people than it is with me. In my case, I don't have a lot of media on my phone, I still use a stand-alone MP3 player, and the few video files I do have on there are .mp4 files which came from my computer, and I'd be apt to upload those to the phone via the card reader route anyway.
I use microSD mainly for having "File Expert" create .apk files of my apps, and for having my favorite resized photos synced via Google Drive. With the former, I can still do this simply having having File Expert write the files to internal memory initially and then use the STOCK file manager (not ES File Explorer any longer) to move them where they need to ultimately go.
That is an important point to make--you still can move files to the microSD, or from one spot on the microSD to the other, with the "stock" file manager program.
The main thing that's broken for me, besides now having to use the "stock" file manager vs ES File Explorer for many things, is that now the auto-syncing of my favorite photos from PC to phone now will have to reside in internal memory. (If I subsequently move the files to microSD, the app, "Autosync For Google Drive," will mistakenly resync all the photos again unnecessarily.) I suppose I could set it up this way and then have the "stock" file manager instead COPY the photos to the microSD (vs moving them), after all, the photos only add up to about 200 megabytes total.
Regardless, it does mean that it's another thing to mess with if I have to "wipe" my phone, I've always taken comfort that I had all of that on the microSD before, safe from any "wiping."
That Said (Apps to SD Card)
UPDATE November 11th--one thing I forgot, the Tribute, unlike the F3 as I understand it (unless you root the F3), lets you move apps to the microSD card. This can be of much help with making sure the internal memory has plenty of breathing room. In my case, it would allow me room for having Autosync for Google Drive sync the resized JPEGs to the internal memory, as there would now be plenty of room for this. (I could still always make backup copies to the microSD so if I wipe the phone it wouldn't take as long for it to re-sync etc.)
In Closing
Unless the KitKat SD issue is a huge one (again, I don't like it, but I work around it using the "stock" file manager, and I don't have tons of media files I'm moving around all of the time), I would go for the Tribute if you have the F3 and want something else but don't want to spend $150 on the LG Volt. Compared to the F3, it's smoother, apps don't stutter/stick/lag as much, the display is better even if not as much as 4.5 vs 4 would suggest, the GPS locks quickly, and the issues I thought would be a problem (no physical home button for "waking" up the phone, no visible menu key) all worked themselves out very well.
Also, I was concerned because, due to the fact that the LG Tribute has only been on the market about a month when I'm writing this, I couldn't find a case for my Tribute like the one I had for my F3. It was a "rigid" case with a kickstand for VERTICAL usage (I do not like using my phone horizontally except when watching a video clip etc). When I looked, initially they were all showing as being only available as a pre-order due to ship out on Nov 28th. I found one available immediately for $8 {link}.
My F3 now resides in the drawer, simply there in case this one gets lost or broken. Other than using "Colornote" on it in the kitchen for looking up recipes without exposing my new Tribute to "kitchen chaos," or for having on hand so if my Tribute gets lost or broken I can immediately have a working phone right away, I am totally switched over and am happy for doing it. As long as I can curb "LG Volt lust" (or doing something really rash and going to Verizon so I can get an LG G3 or such), I am good now, and glad to have retired my F3.
