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Gingerbread for Thunderbolt Q2 2011

After suffering with Blackberries for so long and DESPERATELY needing software updates which never came, I'm a lot more lenient with Android. It does so much stuff so well...I'm just not that anxious for the next update. I'll be happy when it comes out though!
 
Hesitant to believe that post. It says NFC will be included on the T-Bolt with the release of 2.3 for us. Well, unless they are shipping you a new phone with an NFC chip in it, there's no amount of software that can give your phone NFC capability without the associated hardware.

So if that piece is not true, then all of it is suspect...
 
Hesitant to believe that post. It says NFC will be included on the T-Bolt with the release of 2.3 for us. Well, unless they are shipping you a new phone with an NFC chip in it, there's no amount of software that can give your phone NFC capability without the associated hardware.

So if that piece is not true, then all of it is suspect...

I hear what you are saying, but two things

1. No one has done a teardown on our phones as of yet. It is possible there is a hidden chip in our phones that will come to life with the software update

2. There are spare connectors on the rear of our phones that seem ready for expansion. It is either for the wireless charging rear cover (that is coming soon) or perhaps an NFC cover that will come out when they update the software.

Guess we will have to wait and see.
 
I don't know what half the shit on the list is but if it will make the OS more efficient and help my battery, I'm all about it.
 
Stupid question, but what is NFC? Er, from the list, I see that it stands for near field communications, but what does that mean, exactly?
 
Stupid question, but what is NFC? Er, from the list, I see that it stands for near field communications, but what does that mean, exactly?

Near Field Communications is a secure method of wireless data transport that only works within a few inches of distance. With the limited range, hardware security, and software encryption, NFC has been adapted for highly secure transmission of data. Things like new credit cards have the standard mag strip on the back, and an NFC chip on them too. So you don't have to swipe your card, you just tap your wallet on those NFC payment stations. Your passport has an NFC chip so they can just tap it to the computer and get your information. The military ID's have an NFC chip too, it stores ID data plus per-tenant health information (blood type, allergies, etc).

NFC in cell phones means that your phone can be your credit card, your ID, your passport, your health records, all rolled into one. This makes your cell phone very powerful...and is the direction Google is trying to push the industry.

Steve Jobs is even in on the game...but he has yet to commit to the NFC standard because well, the standard is too loose. Once they tighten up some key components he has stated all iPhones will have NFC too.

Possibilities are endless...

Get rid of:

Car Keys
House Keys
Credit Cards
ID
Passport
Health Records

All would be controlled by your NFC enabled smartphone...
 
I'm new to Android so this may be a wishful thinking. But it sure would be nice if Gingerbread gave us the option to completely turn off a bunch of these battery wasting bloat apps. I really do not need maps, tunewiki, news, stocks, etc., etc., etc. updating or even running. This phone is fast enough that if I want stocks or news, etc. I can open the app and wait 3 seconds for it to update. There are so many apps in here that are so unnecessary to my use. I realize they ARE useful to some but forcing them on ALL of us is just a waste on a 1400 mAh battery. I have gone into apps management and don't see any options to shut them off and allow activate only if/when I want them. For a customizable smart phone - this just seems silly.

But, as I said, I am an Android newb so I may be missing something here.
 
I've been through this before with my Eris. Everyone was wishing and endlessly waiting for the update and, when we got it, it was horrible. I had the "silent call bug." Some other folks had some other kind of bug. We'll see about this one.
 
Not gonna hold my breath on this one. It would be nice, but they promised the Eris an update for MONTHS, then when it happened it was lack-luster. I'm happy with my 'Bolt how it is. Should this update **actually** happen, I hope it will make this phone even better. Until then, I'm gonna be happy with what I have.
 
Agree with verizon I'm sure they will delay it due to testing and then still have issues. I mean they already rejected the droid x gb update so who knows. I personally dont care because I am rooted and will wait for a custom gb rom the devs usually make better roms with less bugs anyway.
 
Noob question but what is gingerbread? This is my first smartphone so I have no clue what any of this stuff is.

Gingerbread is the next version of the Android operating system that will come to this phone. It is already on at least a couple devices. Google names its new versions of Android alphabetically and all of them correspond to sweet treats. The Tbolt features Froyo; before that was Eclair; after Gingerbread will be Honeycomb.

New mascots are introduced on the Google campus for each: http://techxplosion.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/thumb_550_froyo-statue.jpg
 
I've been through this before with my Eris. Everyone was wishing and endlessly waiting for the update and, when we got it, it was horrible. I had the "silent call bug." Some other folks had some other kind of bug. We'll see about this one.
No offense to the Eris owners but that pos was neglected from the start. This is HTC's top of the line on Verizon (like the OG Droid was for Moto) and they WILL treat it as such. If waiting for the release of the Bolt has taught me anything, it is to relax and not stress/worry about updates (or anything really) Al least we have something to root/play with while we wait...
 
For those new to Android or what Gingerbread is -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3pdWBlZ34

Android updates are named Donut, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb (D, E, F, G, H... like that, mmmk, as youngdoc mentioned).

In the above video, I think the thing we'll all care about is garbage collection - it's a programmers term that basically means to use memory much more efficiently when programs are running. That alone is why I'm waiting for it - I'm expecting smoother and more stable operation all around because of that. (Browsers you've seen that get slower the more you run them and the more windows or tabs you open? Garbage collection problems, very often.)

As the vid shows, there's also a bit of upgrade in the operating system's infrastructure that will translate into apps with more features.

The vid was heavy on the importance of Gingerbread to gamers, but personally, I think that's because Google was looking to address the gaming community - a big constituency, economically - rather than it being true that Gingerbread is really for gamers only.

Gingerbread won't get rid of those apps you hate or give you a better way to kill them. If anything, on your next major update, you're likely to get saddled with even more crap software. Your best bet is to root your phone and then freeze the bloatware you don't need or use. Maybe see also - http://androidforums.com/htc-thunde...u-know-when-something-closed.html#post2487022

FWIW - Froyo (the version you're all running now) is way good. I was in a hurry for Gingerbread, but it had some early bugs to shake out, so in my case, I'm content to wait and know that what I get is more bug-free.

Anyway, cheers, hope this helps. :)

PS -
Isn't Honeycomb going to be exclusive to the tablets? I thought I heard that somewhere...

No and yes.

Andy Rubin originally stated in clear terms Honeycomb would be for both phones and tablets.

Then, his lieutenants came out and said otherwise, Honeycomb=tablets_only. And he eventually sorta backed that up.

Then independent devs made it work on a phone, pointing out that it was a display thing and the heavy-duty stuff could be bypassed. Then Google added some phone support into the Honeycomb software developers kit.

Then Google refused to make the Honeycomb source code public and said outright that was to discourage people from trying to put it on a phone and give everyone a bad experience.

What we know for a fact is that Honeycomb is facing a lot of development, even though released - and we have a bigger fact in that Google's announced that the update after Honeycomb, Ice Cream (sandwich)(*) will deconflict the phone/tablet confusions and be the right one for us all.


(*Note) Originally announced as Ice Cream, it's now expected to be called Ice Cream Sandwich, but I simply refuse to call an alphabetical update mnemonic by three words.

And fwiw - I'm sure by Tiramisu this will be all be sorted out. ;) :D
 
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