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Gonna keep unlimited data on my line W/ upgrade, and here's how

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vzwuser

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my plane:
line 1: smartphone
line 2: smart phone
line 3: dumb phone
line 4: dumb phone
line 5: dumb phone

so line 3 has an upgrade, so i am gonna upgrade to a new smartphone in october prob, with line 3. im gonna out on the 2gb data plan, not family share. then im gonna remove it from line 3 and put it on line 1. and put the dumbphone back on line 3. it should work, feedback is welcome.
 
vzwuser said:
my plane:
line 1: smartphone
line 2: smart phone
line 3: dumb phone
line 4: dumb phone
line 5: dumb phone

so line 3 has an upgrade, so i am gonna upgrade to a new smartphone in october prob, with line 3. im gonna out on the 2gb data plan, not family share. then im gonna remove it from line 3 and put it on line 1. and put the dumbphone back on line 3. it should work, feedback is welcome.
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According to the csr I spoke with today, this will work if you do it before the June 28 deadline. As for whether it will work after that date, I'm not sure, I've heard conflicting information.
 
Doesn't have to be by June 28th, you can do this whenever. Because you aren't using the line 1 upgrade, you aren't signing a new contract on that line, and so will keep unlimited data. I have done this before, I currently have two lines that I bought a Droid 3 and my GNex on, and currently have dumbphone on them, while the other two are on my main lines.
 
I asked about this, too. CSR seemed to think it would work, although they said doing a straight alternate upgrade, as in using one line's upgrade to activate a phone on another line, wouldn't work. Hard to believe that merely activating the phone on the upgrade line for a day then deactivating it and reactivating on your unlimited line would make a difference, but it may.
 
canrunin said:
So this dump phone,do you pay for a extra phone and not use it? How does this system work exactly?
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It should be useable, lots of people do this to get early upgrades, you pay the additional $10 for a line that shares your mins and you can use the upgrades for a smartphone, I've thought about doing it to get a line for my mother and a new phone for me...too bad the right phone hasn't came along yet.
 
canrunin said:
So this dump phone,do you pay for a extra phone and not use it? How does this system work exactly?
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Yeah we don't use them, although in the event of an emergency (possibility of a loss of power for extended time periods, the battery life of a dumbphone would be nice to have.
 
My wife currently has an iPhone 4 with unlimited data. She has an upgrade due now that I'm going to use to get the Samsung galaxy s3. Here is my question.
If I don't get her switched to a 4G phone before the 28th, she won't be able to get grandfathered in on 4G unlimited will she? If I get her activated on a 4G phone an then a few days later switch her back to the iPhone 4 will that kill the 4G unlimited grandfathered status? Main reason I'm doing this is she wants an iPhone 5 with unlimited data later this year when they come out
 
From what I have read it looks like she should be able to stick on the iPhone 4 and then upgrade later paying full retail for the iPhone 5 and keep her unlimited data.
 
I thought you had to be on 4G data before a certain date to keep unlimited data at the 4G speed. Yeah, I'm already dreading getting that iPhone 5 off contract
 
Yeahha said:
From what I have read it looks like she should be able to stick on the iPhone 4 and then upgrade later paying full retail for the iPhone 5 and keep her unlimited data.
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Verizon has said repeatedly that as long as you don't use an upgrade you can keep your unlimited data.
 
euph_22 said:
Verizon has said repeatedly that as long as you don't use an upgrade you can keep your unlimited data.
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This is true, but there is also a part that says switching between different types of phones, ie from 3g to 4g, will trigger the grandfather kill switch. It is a bit unclear at the moment.
 
jackdubl said:
This is true, but there is also a part that says switching between different types of phones, ie from 3g to 4g, will trigger the grandfather kill switch. It is a bit unclear at the moment.
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I spoke with 2 reps today, and they both assured me that as long as you are not buying a subsidized phone, you are free to switch from 3g to 4g and keep your unlimited. This was of utmost importance to me as I just ordered the SGIII on a new line with plans to put it on my current line.
 
jackdubl said:
This is true, but there is also a part that says switching between different types of phones, ie from 3g to 4g, will trigger the grandfather kill switch. It is a bit unclear at the moment.
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True. I missed that aspect of it (I don't interact with the Mappleverse much).
 
guess i better round up a cheap 4g phone to be on the safeside. My wife hates big phones, she don't want a phone much bigger than an iphone. I wish the incredible 4g was out, i think she might like that. Anybody have any experiences with the samsung stratosphere? I think that phone might be up her ally until something else comes along
 
wingsfan so you're going to force your wife off her iphone just to use a 4g. I wouldn't do it. I'm in the same situation as you and I'm just gonna buy an off contract phone for both lines whenever. Come to think of it, it would make no sense for even Verizon to change the terms of the primary line's contract just b/c the secondary may switch from 3g to 4g.
 
The uncertainty of all this shows just how much of a clusterfoxtrot Verizon turned this into. I talked to three CSRs and they all told me that we would not be forced into the shared data plan if I upgraded in September. I'd lose my unlimited data, but I'd keep my 700 minutes shared talk plan. I talked to another a few minutes ago and he said if I upgraded after the 28th I would be forced into this abomination that will cost us another $50+ a month. If the CSRs don't know what is going, maybe it is time to take my business elsewhere.
 
There is no way they would force you onto tiers for going from a 3G to a 4G phone, you can buy a used 4G phone and activate it on your account. Not to mention if they did force you from going to 4G from 3G that would screw all iOS users and they don't want to do that since they know iOS users are a good chunk of their smartphone customers.

If you have unlimited data you can keep it until you sign a new contract which means if you pay full retail for your next phone or buy it used no matter what you have currently you can keep the unlimited data.
 
Jake_Mongoose said:
The uncertainty of all this shows just how much of a clusterfoxtrot Verizon turned this into. I talked to three CSRs and they all told me that we would not be forced into the shared data plan if I upgraded in September. I'd lose my unlimited data, but I'd keep my 700 minutes shared talk plan. I talked to another a few minutes ago and he said if I upgraded after the 28th I would be forced into this abomination that will cost us another $50+ a month. If the CSRs don't know what is going, maybe it is time to take my business elsewhere.
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The CSR's are right (ish), you won't be forced into a Shared Data Plan. You will however lose your unlimited data and be forced into EITHER a tiered individual data plan that they've had for a year now or a shared data plan.
 
Okay, I don't understand this adding a separate line plan. Are saying to add a line or a new plan. If I did the add a line, it would be $10 more a month (x2 as I need two phones) right? Thats it? I don't see a huge savings, only about $110 over just buying the phone. Plus, I could only do this this one time and before the 28th because on the new plans, it cost $30 a month (x2) and it would be cheaper to buy the phone out right, right?

I have two unlimited phones on a family plan(no upgrades available.
Current: 110(plan)+30(data)+30(data)+10(second line)= $180


Adding lines: $20(two phones)x24(length of contract)= $480 in additional cost + $500(upgrade for two S3's)= $980 or $490 per phone.


New plan(after 6/28): $60($30 per phone)x24= $1440+$500= $1940 or $970 per phone.


Is my thinking correct. Is my math correct. Seems to me it is just easier to buy the phones now, spend the $110 more per phone and then be out of contract in a few months and have some leverage on them (doubt it's much). I really don't see how after the 28th it will help. Either way, this is all bs from Verizon. Let me know if I'm way off here.
 
I recently upgraded my wife's unlimited line...she lost her phone. So we upgraded on my mom's line on my account to a Razr Maxx, immediately (as in during the purchase process) pulled it off my mom's line and put it on my wife's line, and switched my mom back to her dumbphone. All in the same transaction...from my experience there is no need to activate the upgrade phone on the initial upgrade line for a day or even an hour. This was all done a couple weeks ago at Costco w/the cell phone kiosk there.
 
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