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Google is a major investor in patent troll firm Intellectual Ventures

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The hypocrisy is unbelievable:

Google is a major investor in patent troll firm Intellectual Ventures.


It looks like Google's a part of the very problem they're complaining about.


Intellectual Ventures - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Myhrvold's Intellectual Ventures forced to reveal investors

Amazon, Apple, Cisco, eBay, Microsoft, etc. are also investors but they are not acting like whiny babies and acting all high and mighty going around preaching about how patents are destroying innovation.


Fact 1:

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Google was willing to pay for $3-$4 billion for the same Nortel patents.

Fact 2:

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Google's page rank algorithm is patented. if you don't believe in patents then why the hell do you own patents?

Fact 3:

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Let me quote another commenter on another blog: "How many small and innovative companies has Google killed off by replicating what they do and making it available for free? Great way to keep the next Google from springing up."

Message to Google:

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You can use other people's technology, you just have to pay for them. You are being sued left and right not because there's some organized propaganda against you, it's because you STOLE from other companies.
 
It appears someone decided to create a new account yesterday and just created several threads with links to anti-Android articles.

That's all I have to say.
 
I like how you copy/pasted directly from your previous post I'm not trying to call you out but wondering why you are posting this, do you really feel this strongly about the subject? Do you have insider knowledge of what good would have done had they won the patents? Why should google not patent something, they are not saying patents in themselves are wrong they are saying the way other companies are attempting to profit off patents are wrong? If google sees something that they can do cheaper, legally and profit from it why should they not snuff out the competition? There were and still are other search engines out there, google is just able to do it better and could rise to the top. If the small innovative companies were able to make a superior product they would be able to rise above. I think you are trying to look at the corporate world with morals and tactics that do not work in the corporate world.
 
Sweet. Next you should tell China about how you think their sweatshops and child labor practices are unfair.
 
If this information is true, it is disturbing that Google would invest in a patent troll company. I don't blame Google for holding patents or wanting to buy patents to protect itself from patent trolling. That's a sad cost of doing business. Google investing in a company that makes it's money solely by extorting it from other businesses is extremely disturbing if that is indeed what is happening here. It seems to me to be unclear as to whether Google is actually backing this company or simply giving them money to keep them from suing the pants off them.
 
Where does anyone get "major" investor from?

That characterization is disingenuous since no monetary values are given. IV runs a protection racket. "Invest with us or you will get sued." And it was started by a former MS executive. I consider the investors to be prey more than predators in this financial relationship.




Anyways, let's look at the whole list:

Notice most all of them are invested in something called "Financial interest in Defendant Invention Investment Fund"

I'll leave it to the reader to decide what that means.

• Adobe Systems Incorporated: Financial interest in Defendant Invention Investment Fund II, LLC
• Allen SBH Investments LLC: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Intellectual Ventures I LLC
• Amazon.com NV Investment Holdings Inc., an affiliate of Amazon.com, Inc.: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, and Invention Investment Fund II, LLC
• American Express Travel Related Services Company, Inc.: Financial interest in Defendant Invention Investment Fund I, L.P.
• Apple Inc.: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Board of Regents of The University of Texas System: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• The Board of Trustees of the Leland Stanford Junior University: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Brown University: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Bush Foundation: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Certain funds of Charles River Ventures: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund 1, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Cisco Systems, Inc.: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Commonfund Capital Venture Partners VII, L.P.: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Intellectual Ventures I LLC
• Cornell University: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P. Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Detelle Relay KG, LLC: Non-financial interest in the outcome of the litigation
• Detkin, Peter: Financial and/or non-financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Intellectual Ventures II LLC, and Intellectual Ventures Management, LLC
• Dobkin, Eric: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Dore Capital, L.P., and affiliate of The Vanderbilt University: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Intellectual Ventures I LLC
• eBay Inc.: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Invention Investment Fund II, LLC
• Fields, Richard: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Flag Capital: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• The Flora Family Foundation: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Google Inc.: Financial interest in Defendant Invention Investment Fund I, L.P.
• Gorder, Gregory: Financial and/or non-financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Intellectual Ventures II LLC, and Intellectual Ventures Management, LLC
• Gould, Paul: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Intellectual Ventures I LLC
• Grinnell College: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Holiber, Adam: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Howard Hughes Medical Institute: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund 1, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Intel Corporation: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Invention Investment Fund II, LLC
• Intellectual Venture Funding LLC: Non-financial interest in the outcome of the litigation
• International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, as trustee: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• JP Morgan Chase Bank, N.A., as trustee for White Plaza Group Trust: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Intellectual Ventures I LLC
• Jung, Edward: Financial and/or non-financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Intellectual Ventures II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures Management, LLC and Intellectual Ventures, LLC
• Latrosse Technologies, LLC: Non-financial interest in the outcome of the litigation
• Legacy Ventures: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Mayo Clinic and Mayo Foundation Master Retirement Trust: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Certain funds of McKinsey and Company, Inc.: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Microsoft Corporation: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund, I L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Myhrvold, Nathan: Financial and non-financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L. P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, Intellectual Ventures II LLC, Intellectual Ventures Management, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures,, LLC
• Next Generation Partners V, L.P.: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Intellectual Ventures I LLC
• Nokia Corporation: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Noregin Assets N.V., L.L.C.: Financial interest in the outcome of the litigation
• Northwestern University: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Nvidia International Holdings, Inc., an affiliate of Nvidia Corporation: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Invention Investment Fund II, LLC
• OC Applications Research LLC: Financial interest in the outcome of the litigation
• Peretsman, Nancy: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Reading Hospital: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Roldan Block NY, LLC: Financial interest in the outcome of the litigation
• SAP America, Inc.: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Invention Investment Fund II, LLC
• Sequoia Holdings, LLC: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Intellectual Ventures I LLC
• Sony Corporation: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Taichi Holdings, LLC: Non-financial interest in the outcome of the litigation
• The Rockefeller Foundation: Financial interest in Defendant Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Intellectual Ventures I LLC
• Skillman Foundation: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Sohn Partners: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Certain funds of TIFF Private Equity Partners: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, Intellectual Ventures I LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• TR Technologies Foundation LLC: Non-financial interest in the outcome of the litigation
• Trustees of the University of Pennsylvania: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• University of Southern California: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• University of Minnesota: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Verizon Corporate Services Group Inc., an affiliate of Verizon Communications Inc.: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund II, LLC, and Intellectual Ventures II LLC
• Xilinx, Inc.: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Invention Investment Fund II, LLC
• Yahoo! Inc.: Financial interest in Defendants Invention Investment Fund I, L.P., and Invention Investment Fund II, LLC
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This is a real problem. The modern version of the mafia protection racket.

Part of the problem is the patent system which is giving out patents like candy and allows the patents to be so vague as to cover just about anything.

So now what we have are people with deep pockets setting up patent troll companies with the sole purpose of extracting cash from the real innovators. Before you know everything that can be patented will be owned my mega corporations
 
drdoom said:
This guy has done nothing but post flame bait threads. Just ignore him and he will go away.
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Members characterizing the OP like that are not addressing his posted issue, but are addressing what they think of him, which is not doing much for the thread. ;)

Can we just talk about what has been brought up in post #1? It looks interesting.
 
Frisco said:
Members characterizing the OP like that are not addressing his posted issue, but are addressing what they think of him, which is not doing much for the thread. ;)

Can we just talk about what has been brought up in post #1? It looks interesting.
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alostpacket destroyed the OP's thread with his post; why even bother trying? :D
 
drdoom said:
alostpacket destroyed the OP's thread with his post; why even bother trying? :D
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Yeah.. thought I'd give it a chance.. but the tide is turning... ;)

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