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350X said:
that don't equate right

it would be up to the cable company, if they left a live line hook up in your house, you can hook it to your TV all you want, its up to them to have the connections at the pole right.

had a friend in an apartment go through that, wasn't his fault the cable company used only 1 single line into the building and then connected it to 10 apartments. [if one person paid for HBO, they all got it, but not all got a bill]
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I dunno- it's kind of like cancelling your cable service only to find it's still on and continuing to use it for months, then complaining when you get a bill. Or opting out of a new credit card fee by agreeing not to use the card anymore, then using it anyway & complaining when you get charged the new fee.

Maybe not the best analogies above, but tethering is against the VM user agreement unless you are doing it through an approved device and paying for it, period. If you do it, just be ready to accept the consequences if they decide to crack down...
 
has to be a built in function of the phone to equate, back to the camera, if you download a camera app that unlocks function that the camera can do but VM didn't.

Can they now back charge you for a better camera?

no

IF VM or any of them really cared, they would make tethering use its own radio so its a hard wire disabled, like they did befor smart phones and hard wired them to disable modding with the USB cable. Or hard wired so you can't use free ringtones, screen savers, apps or game, but only paid downloads from them. [my loft was like that, it was locked up like a bank, no way in]
 
tuller said:
My TV was sold with a cable connection, but that doesn't entitle me to run a cable line to it and expect to get free service just because my TV shipped with that feature. I don't think that argument would hold water with the cable company...I'm with Petrah on this discussion.
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You're awesome!

MacFett said:
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Specifically the bottom.

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And so are you!

350X said:
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You and I have hashed this discussion before. Regardless of what you say here, it never will change the fact that knowingly taking a paid service from a company via an exploit (definition: a hole in the software that was not intended to be there) without paying for it is theft.

Sure, you can do this all day long till the sun comes up (or until you get caught). You can even mention that you have access to the hotspot feature if you like or tell others about an app that allows them to get it.

What angers me to no end and causes me to respond every time is when people brag about stealing it while the rest of us hard working peeps pay for it with our hard earned cash. That's what annoys me.
 
IM not stealing anything, I get unlimited data, how I use said data makes no difference on either end, and effects no one.

you assume tethering means its gonig to slow the whole newtwork down, BS

I used 5-6GB of data before I could tether, and still use the same ammout of data after. VM protects its users with the speed caps.

except in my area, the speed never changes.
 
Petrah said:
You're awesome!



And so are you!



You and I have hashed this discussion before. Regardless of what you say here, it never will change the fact that knowingly taking a paid service from a company via an exploit (definition: a hole in the software that was not intended to be there) without paying for it is theft.

Sure, you can do this all day long till the sun comes up (or until you get caught). You can even mention that you have access to the hotspot feature if you like or tell others about an app that allows them to get it.

What angers me to no end and causes me to respond every time is when people brag about stealing it while the rest of us hard working peeps pay for it with our hard earned cash. That's what annoys me.
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It is what it is.
Learn to live with it, and use your anger at something more worthy ;hunger, homelessness, unemployment........ These things are more needing of ones anger.

jus sayin'
 
El Presidente said:
It's getting a little hot in here!

Tethering is a contentious subject and whilst this thread hasn't got personal yet, it seems to be moving in that direction, so I'd like to ask you guys to agree to disagree about this please. :)
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Yep, I was just trying to point out that VM is now offering it as a feature again, like the did with the OV.

which has to mean their feeling have changed on it and the rules are now relaxing again, hopfuly for the better of all.
 
350X said:
Yep, I was just trying to point out that VM is now offering it as a feature again, like the did with the OV..
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They never offered it with the Optimus V, in fact their first update to the V tried to lock it down from use. IIRC in the original Optimus Stock software the option was there in the menu but greyed out from use. You had to use 3rd party software to enable it.

Initially with the first update you had to root to use the hotspot.
 
350X said:
Yep, I was just trying to point out that VM is now offering it as a feature again, like the did with the OV.

which has to mean their feeling have changed on it and the rules are now relaxing again, hopfuly for the better of all.
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You can justify and rationalize your behavior as much as you want, the FACT is, it violates the TOS you AGREE to. Period.
 
I can only see the same points going in circles.

When that happens, my experience is that tempers fray and then people say things that they later regret.

If anyone has a problem with the lock, drop me a line, my door is always open. :)

Meanwhile, please respect your contractual agreements, whatever they may be.

Cheers, thanks. :)
 
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