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Help How do I know 3G is off

I upgraded my backflip to Android 2.1 and installed APNdroid, I turned 3G/GPRS off, however, I can still see the 3G logo in my notification bar. How do I know 3G is REALLY off?
 
depends on the theme, but generally you'll know if your 3G is lit it's on, dull it's off. I think with stock theme, the arrows under 3G disappear when it's off
 
thanks for the reply. I can see 3G is lit, however, the up and down arrows are no longer there, does that mean it's turned off? What does stock theme mean......thanks!
 
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