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prioris

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How much app space is allocated on a 32GB tablet (with no sd card) ?

I think it would be around 2.9GB (0.748 GB per 8GB)

My first tablet I ever bought was a 8GB and i ran out of app space putting on Map programs, Chrome etc.
Sdcard is near useless for many apps. The updates also use up the space. After a while, the updates couldn't update anymore. Putting apps on sd card makes causes problems also. App space is a real pain.

I am buying another Tablet and want maximum app space.

Another question:

Do 32 GB ROM tablets have to be on a 32GB chip or can they consist of 2 X 16 GB chips ?
 
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At most, around 6gb will be taken up by the system partition leaving you a big empty space for apps, pics, music etc all in the same partition.
Modern android devices do this instead of having a separate partition for apps
 
So what you are saying is that KitKat jelly bean 4.4.2 is not modern. You can't load APPs into that big empty storage space where video, music, docs etc are stored on the ROM. Empirically I know this to be true.

I don't have a tablet anymore. I plan on buying one soon. So can't do a df. I want to know just app space size. Not size of data space. df wouldn't answer my question anyway since it just lists /data partition. it doesn't break it down.

I have seen so many people just lump app and storage ROM allocation together like it is interchangeable. It isn't.

Just for added clarification, we are talking about non rooted firmware
 
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No idea how you assume what you do but let me repeat what I said -

The size of the /data partition is your limit for your apps and data.

That's how Android works.

Not some third way.
 
prioris said:
So what you are saying is that KitKat jelly bean 4.4.2 is not modern. You can't load APPs into that big empty storage space where video, music, docs etc are stored on the ROM. Empirically I know this to be true.
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Incorrect.

This isn't some primitive Windows partitioning we're talking about - it's Android.

Now, go up to the above df listing - notice that /storage/emulated space (aka /sdcard) and that is mapped to the same space as /data - and yet if you file browse /sdcard, you'll never see what's in /data and vice versa.

But it's not loaves and fishes.

There's 25 GB total in my case.

So that's 25 gigs of apps, or 1 GB apps and 24 GB pictures - whatever and however I choose to use my storage.

So - the size of your /data partition is the limit for your apps and data.

This is possible, and defies your empirical conclusions, because KitKat uses FUSE -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace

You also seem to be confused as to what a rom is.

It's the boot.img and /system partition.

/data is hidden from you but that doesn't make it part of the rom.

I've used devices with a separate /data/app partition but most Androids haven't been like that for some time.

You would know if that's true on yours if you get Terminal Emulator and enter -

df

All of which was explained already in two posts -
EarlyMon said:
Get Terminal Emulator, and enter this -

df

The listing for the /data partition is for your apps and data.
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funkylogik said:
At most, around 6gb will be taken up by the system partition leaving you a big empty space for apps, pics, music etc all in the same partition.
Modern android devices do this instead of having a separate partition for apps
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You can ask someone here who has the tablet you're looking to buy to run df for you.
 
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prioris said:
So what you are saying is that KitKat jelly bean 4.4.2 is not modern. You can't load APPs into that big empty storage space where video, music, docs etc are stored on the ROM. Empirically I know this to be true.

I don't have a tablet anymore. I plan on buying one soon. So can't do a df. I want to know just app space size. Not size of data space. df wouldn't answer my question anyway since it just lists /data partition. it doesn't break it down.

I have seen so many people just lump app and storage ROM allocation together like it is interchangeable. It isn't.

Just for added clarification, we are talking about non rooted firmware
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This is exactly how the storage will be layed out in any tablet running 4.4.x firmware (modern)
Youll have the system (rom) partition that holds the rom (operating system) and all pre-installed apps and then youll have /data partition to use for anything you want to download/transfer/install :thumbsup:
 
your likely right. just a mystery why i experienced limitation on some tablets. maybe broken or something. i did look at the FUSE system. i am familiar with unix. i will get another tablet and hopefully that is ok. thanks.
 
Having a separate, small /data partition distinct from the /sdcard space was how Gingerbread and earlier versions worked (maybe honeycomb too - I never used that). Sometimes devices that were updated over the air to modern android versions retained this, presumably because changing the storage model would erase the user storage, which the average user wouldn't thank you for.

I guess it would be possible to configure a modern Android version with the old storage model. I have occasionally seen people with obscure, off-brand devices who seem to be in that position, but it would be a bizarre thing to do, as it's not in anyone's interest. In general though for the last couple of years the normal setup has been as Early and Funky say. How much space depends only on how much the manufacturer sets aside for the OS and cache partition, so to give another example my 32GB phone has 25.5 GB (binary units) available to the user, and I've filled about 20GB of that with a mix of apps, app data and media.
 
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The real explanation to this mystery is: The playstore app on android 4.2 was somehow broken.

It probably didn't release internal memory space after the download and install. Hence the space ran out. Lot of people complained about this. There was more than one problem causing it. Even Google results about this problem didn't show up for a long time until recently. Even other forums didn't know about the problem.

Since it was my first real tablet and googling didn't get any results top enlighten me, i assumed it was an android limitation.
 
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