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Help How to separate ringtone and notification volume? (Marshmallow)

I guess I miss the question.

If I go to Settings/Sound & Notification I can set the volume for ...
Media
Alarm
Ring
Notification

... Thom
 
Notification, Ringer, and System are apparently coupled.

If any of them are changed the other two are changed to match it.

... Thom
 
Turbo does not have a Settings/Personalize.

In the Droid Maxx on 4.4.4 Ring and System were coupled and Notification was independent.
I no longer have a Droid with 5.1
In the Droid Turbo on 6.0.1 Notification, Ring, and System are coupled.
In the Droid Turbo 2 on 6.0.1 Notification, Ring, and System are coupled.

... Thom
 
Sorry ... I don;t think so ...

Set them all to max
Set Ring to 3
Save current profile
Go to another app
Come back ...
Ring, Notification, and System are set at 3

(Are you using a Droid Turbo?)

... Thom
 
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Help me please! I got the Marshmallow update on my Droid Turbo on Tuesday. Now I have the same issue, ringtone and notifications are linked. There are separate bars to change the volume but they move simultaneously. Verizon & Motorola pretty much said it is what it is. No way to fix. Anyone know of anything? Thanks.
 
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...I got the Marshmallow update on my Droid Turbo on Tuesday. Now I have the same issue, ringtone and notifications are linked. There are separate bars to change the volume but they move simultaneously. Verizon & Motorola pretty much said it is what it is. No way to fix. Anyone know of anything? Thanks.
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Over the years, it seems we've learned that these system-level revisions to the volume selectors cannot be changed -- at least, not without rooting the device. None of the aftermarket software apps that claim to alter these behaviors actually work.

Google in its supreme wisdom has commanded that this is the way the world will be most happy, and they aren't particularly responsive to anecdotal customer feedback. That said, Google should eliminate the illusion of there being four sliders when in fact there only 3. It just makes us cranky to be teased this way.

My response to Android's various changes to this section of settings has been to alter my habits so that the issue affects me less. After a year or so I get used to it -- ready for Google to change it again. :confused:
 
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Kevin-B,
Thanks so much. This is insanity! You're right, might not be so bad if there was only 1 volume control. But to have one for each yet they move the same is Galactically stupid!!
Have a great day.
 
Ring, Notification, and System are coupled under 6.x and can not be uncoupled.
Notified ction and System are coupled under 5.x and can not be uncoupled.

The three apps I wrote address volume control setting because it is the most complicated attribute of Android and it gets changed with every major system release.

A partial circumvention ... if the sound you care about is being put out by a specific app perhaps that app will allow you to change the stream from Ring or Notification to Media. The Media stream is not coupled with anything.

... Thom
 
I have used MacroDroid to independently control the volume levels in 5.x and 6.x

I used the Volume Change "Action" macro and you just move a slider to control the volume of each tone.
You choose your own Trigger function. For me, I chose Screen Awake, or Screen OFF...

The same macro has been working for me on 4.4.4 and 5.x and 6.x
 
I don't think it is doing what you think it is doing.

In MacroDroid if I have Actions ...
Volume Change ...
Notification 52​
Display Notification ...
Current Volume Alarm
Current Volume Voice Call
Current Volume Media
Current Volume Notification
Current Volume Ringer
Current Volume System Sounds​
... and save macro and test the action ...
Alarm - Voice Call - Media are all unchanged
Notification - Ringer - System Sounds are all set to 47​

Are you getting a different result?
Are you using a 6.x on a Droid Turbo?

... Thom
 
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Must be something requested by Verizon, then. I have a Moto X Pure, it's unlocked and ringtone, notification, and media all have separate controls. It came with Marshmallow.
 
In all of these apps people are seeing multiple controls that they can set at different values and are assuming that they are been set the way they requested.

Set them and then check to see what got set. I think you will find that they are linked.

... Thom
 
Thom said:
In all of these apps people are seeing multiple controls that they can set at different values and are assuming that they are been set the way they requested.

Set them and then check to see what got set. I think you will find that they are linked.

... Thom
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Thom: I think you are exactly right. From years of bitter experience, I know that all of these apps promise the moon but deliver nothing at all. These sliders do not unlink, even if the graphic display in your app pretends that they do. It's easy to write a graphic slider that does what you wish it did. It's not easy to fight Google. Or, for that matter, Verizon.

Mind you, I'm not really upset at Google. Their OS remains the best I've used since Palm, Inc invented the first smartphone, the Treo. The fact that we're complaining about annoyances like this indicates that the Big Stuff is working great. Yeah, we wish we wouldn't be surprised by a chirp or buzz at the wrong time, but we're not talking about anything life-crushing.

It's just a phone. (Or, as my ex-wife delightfully called it, my "brain prosthesis.") If I really hate what the sound sliders are doing, I can always leave it at home.
 
It is apparently possible to separate them if your phone is root-ed. (I am not root-ed and have not tried.) This is the kind of problem that attracts some people to root-ing along with all the additional challenges that are presented.

The issue is there because attempts are being made to simplify a rather complicated situation. If these three streams can actually be synced then Android can go from seven streams to five.

... Thom
 
Thom said:
In all of these apps people are seeing multiple controls that they can set at different values and are assuming that they are been set the way they requested.

Set them and then check to see what got set. I think you will find that they are linked.

... Thom
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Mine aren't. What will happen is the sound gets lower if you have vibrate on.
 
I was referring to third-party apps.

On the Turbo and Turbo 2 ... Settings/Sound & notification has sliders for ...
Media
Alarm
Ring​
... do you also have a slider for ...
Notification?​

The issue is that under Marshmallow Notification and Ringtone are always set to identical volume levels. Is this true for your phone?

... Thom
 
Thom,
I still use MacroDroid to control the Bluetooth volume to my BT headset in 6.x, it seems to work okay for me.

I also have a macro that mutes all System sounds period between 2200-0500 hours.
I turn it on if I am dog tired and don't want anyone to bother me. That way, I still get a 'missed call' or a 'SMS' missed indicator when I wake up.
 
As reported ... Notification-Ring-System are coupled in the test I ran using MacroDroid on a Droid Turbo. None of the other volume streams were coupled with them.

The subject of this thread was ... is there a way to decouple Notification and Ring on a Droid Turbo.

The conclusion is ... no ... you probably can if you are root-ed.

... Thom
 
Thom said:
I was referring to third-party apps.

On the Turbo and Turbo 2 ... Settings/Sound & notification has sliders for ...
Media
Alarm
Ring​
... do you also have a slider for ...
Notification?​

The issue is that under Marshmallow Notification and Ringtone are always set to identical volume levels. Is this true for your phone?

... Thom
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If you mean me - no they are not. 3 different controls. Of course, if another app that came with the phone does it, I wouldn't know. I've disabled or deleted 95% of them.

I do know the Samsung Tab 4 had a problem with media. If the device thought you were using earphones, it would mute the sound. I'm trying to listen to the announcers on a baseball game and can't hear them. Samsung comes up with some malarkey about injuring ears when I'm using an external speaker. The tablet and the speaker both had no Bluetooth that was usable.
 
FWIW ... I am almost anal about volume controls ... if someone comes up with a new observation I investigate. As I mentioned ... it is I think the most complex and misunderstood aspect of Android and it gets smashed every time there is a new major release.

... Thom
 
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