Root ICS on a DHD now ---Really

[Raistlin1158]

Virtuous Infinity v1.31.0 Alpha2

This rom works on my DHD, camera, apps, Full sense 4 everything works and to think that this is an alpha is amazing.

I have been using it as a daily rom with no issues, So HTC "Yah Boo Sucks", these boys have done what you couldn't.........

 

[D-U-R-X]

This is my point exactly - if ROM devs can cook something up that works on the DHD, how can HTC not?

 

[ral]

According to HTC the system partition on the DHD (575MB) is not big enough. If any of you know someone with a Desire S or Incredible S, maybe you can check how big is the system partition on these phones.

Been reading some feedback on ICS for the Incredible S. Feedback seems to be not too good.

 

[D-U-R-X]

According to HTC the system partition on the DHD (575MB) is not big enough. If any of you know someone with a Desire S or Incredible S, maybe you can check how big is the system partition on these phones.

I realize the reasons (as per other posts)... just don't understand how ROM devs can do it, but HTC can't!

Been reading some feedback on ICS for the Incredible S. Feedback seems to be not too good.

I have ICS on my DHD and love it though... ok it's not HTC's own version, but I prefer Vanilla Android anyway!!

 

[ral]

I am not sold on HTC's reason... but I cannot disprove it either not having the info on the Desire S and Incredible S available system space.

I think HTC could do it. Am guessing that they just don't want to. Instead they and are focusing on JB for the One X and One S.

If the ICS ROM is too large there are several optional system apps like Locations, Reader, Teeter, Stocks and the like that could be removed and be made available from the Hub. A simple link on the home screen for "optional" components could be provided. The preinstalled Facebook, Twitter, Soundhound, Quick Office, Adobe Reader and other similar apps could be made as optional non-system app downloads too.

I have frozen the entire Location app including Picker. It even removes the button from the calendar so it is a nice clean lobotomy

Just do not freeze widgets, it messes up the Personalization screen,

 

[nigsy]

Camera not fully functional, Camcorder only records low def and no sound, can't use Evi because voice recorder doesn't function and a few minor bugs....so I revert back to my original ROM.

It seems that there may be more to HTC not releasing ICS for the DHD than just available storage.

 

[scotty85]

in HTCs defense,the OS has to function as smoothly and reliably as stock. we as phone geeks do not care to move apps to sd,change partition sizes,and all sorts of other tricks to get the latest and greatest working on out favorite devices. we will also tolerate some degree of "nonfunctionalitly" temprarily,or even permantly dep on what it is. but,we are in the minority when you look at everyone in the world using htc phones.

there are alot of folks who could care less what OS theyre running,they just want it to work. getting a new OS smooth and polished out for these folks is what really influences wether a device should get an update or not.

ice cold sandwich is an extremely nice rom,but even it likely has some bugs that the general public would complain about. not to mention that if you pushed an AOSP rom to a device previously running sense,alot of folks will complain about the lack of the sense ui,and i have not seen any sense based ICS roms that are close for being a DD for the non rooted masses.

not to mention the fact that htc does not really want you to keep updating your old phone forever. they want you to upgrade and get a new one now and then the desire for alot of us comes from newer hardware,more memory,faster processors,but for the non-phone-geeks a flashy new operating system that looks different from your old phone could be a good reason as well

 

[D-U-R-X]

in HTCs defense,the OS has to function as smoothly and reliably as stock. we as phone geeks do not care to move apps to sd,change partition sizes,and all sorts of other tricks to get the latest and greatest working on out favorite devices. we will also tolerate some degree of "nonfunctionalitly" temprarily,or even permantly dep on what it is. but,we are in the minority when you look at everyone in the world using htc phones.

there are alot of folks who could care less what OS theyre running,they just want it to work. getting a new OS smooth and polished out for these folks is what really influences wether a device should get an update or not.

ice cold sandwich is an extremely nice rom,but even it likely has some bugs that the general public would complain about. not to mention that if you pushed an AOSP rom to a device previously running sense,alot of folks will complain about the lack of the sense ui,and i have not seen any sense based ICS roms that are close for being a DD for the non rooted masses.

not to mention the fact that htc does not really want you to keep updating your old phone forever. they want you to upgrade and get a new one now and then the desire for alot of us comes from newer hardware,more memory,faster processors,but for the non-phone-geeks a flashy new operating system that looks different from your old phone could be a good reason as well

Scotty has a point there really... the majority of "normal" users would not be impressed if it didn't work as it should.

I'd just like drivers to be released, so ROM devs can get on with their stuff and we can see fully functioning ICS on our phones! Only another 6/7 months left on my contract... plenty of time for me to think about what I want next!!

 

[ral]

there are alot of folks who could care less what OS theyre running,they just want it to work. getting a new OS smooth and polished out for these folks is what really influences wether a device should get an update or not.

I would think the one thing that would bother the typical user is that you cannot run Chrome. My wife has a Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.0.4. There is nothing in 4.0.4 that I consider a must have except for the Chrome browser. When I go to the Playstore, in the "Recommended for You" section, Google recommends Chrome.

Of course when I click it, it says my device is not compatible.

While I know Chrome for iOS and Chrome for Android are two different things, it grinds a bit that Chrome can work with a iPhone 3GS with half my processor speed and a third of my RAM. Windows Phone users, well they get Chrome too.

So I would have to disagree, consumers will notice.

If HTC cannot really resize ICS to fit on the current system partition, than fine, drop it. Carrier versions would with carrier bloat may be even harder to release.

But, I have the next six month to experiment with ROM's. So I will be satisfied with that. But, the only way I am getting an HTC again is if it says Nexus on it.

 

[Bedroom Eyes]

I'm in the same boat with the inclusion of Chrome. I'd love to have it, even if Google made a DHD, 2.3.5 compatible version, I'd be happy.

Although I was looking forward to the ICS update, because I like when my phone gets new a fresh looking things, I understand that, yes, the masses would be unhappy if things weren't working/disappeared.

 

[Mehta23]

Just as long as I can get a fully working ICS rom, soon, I'm ok

 

[scotty85]

There is nothing in 4.0.4 that I consider a must have except for the Chrome browser. When I go to the Playstore, in the "Recommended for You" section, Google recommends Chrome.

I'm in the same boat with the inclusion of Chrome. I'd love to have it, even if Google made a DHD, 2.3.5 compatible version, I'd be happy.

i cant say for sure about any of the sense based ics roms,but chrome works fine on ice cold sammich and on jellytime

i just checked it on both. i think it even was included in gapps,so i didnt have to install it.

sooo... i guess it just depends. do you guys like chrome enuff to abandon sense and gingerbread

But, the only way I am getting an HTC again is if it says Nexus on it.

im the opposite... the only way id get a nexus is if said htc on it

the nexus one was/is a great phone and set the high standard for googles smartphones,IMO. it still hAs a good comunity and a diversity of roms.

i had a galaxy nexus that i desperately wanted to love,since its googles proprietary device,and im so into google and android. i just couldnt warm up to it. it felt cheap and plasticy,and i absolutely hated the side power button. it wasnt near as much fun for me to mess with as my various htcs.

i ended up trading it for a white box dev rezound

 

[ral]

sooo... i guess it just depends. do you guys like chrome enuff to abandon sense and gingerbread

Once someone gets 720p video recording enabled What I will miss from Sense is the third (full month) calendar widget, HTC Twitter Widget and the clock and weather widget. I can get third party replacements but it is still nicer when they all come from one place and have a consistent look.

On the other hand, I do not mind dumping Locations, Watch, Stocks, Reader plus a lot of the pre-installed third party apps. My current rooted phone has "lighter" Sense which I am happier with.

Holo is still not as nice looking as Sense.

i just couldnt warm up to it. it felt cheap and plasticy,and i absolutely hated the side power button.

HTC still builds the nicest phones. What I do not like about the Nexus is all the empty space above the display. So I am really hoping for a HTC Nexus.

 

[scotty85]

im with you there! id love another nexus htc. :smokingsomb: htc phones feel solid and well made,and have endured alot of my abuse. my rezound rides about 200 miles a day in the car with me delivering auto parts,sometimes reaching temps of *120 on hot,sunny days my phones are pretty well abused

 

[dvhttn]

HTC never said they couldn't get ICS running on the DHD. They said they couldn't upgrade OTA without losing people's data. For those of us who know, or think they know ( ...!), what they're doing that's not a problem. But for Joe Public who just want it "to work" that's a major problem as they'd apply the update WITHOUT checking that they'd lose data then complain when their FacePlant contacts disappeared .....

I bet they were leant on by the carriers as they would be the ones to get all the customer complaints.

Dave