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If You're a Global Warming Denier, Apple Doesn't Want your money!

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Personally, I can't wait for day when we all get to sue the reality deniers for conspiring to stop the world doing anything about climate change.

Given the rate we're getting weather-related disaster these days, it can't be too far off - they'd best start saving :D
 
It is strange how so many companies that previously denied climate change have changed their tune now that they're actually being hit with the costs of not having done anything about the problem for decades :rolleyes:

What's that old adage about a stitch in time saving nine ..?

Ironically, because these very same reality deniers have burned politicians so often over this issue in the last three decades, the politicians are now reluctant to try anything new and it's now actually business - suddenly panicking - that is desperately pushing the issue.

The perils of believing your own lies and BS instead of actual, verifiable evidence.

Unfortunately, because we're all affected, I can't even take pleasure in saying, we told you so :(
 
Im curious as to exactly what "costs" theyre being hit with for failing to fall into the sky is falling hysteria

unless of course you mean the penalties being hefted upon them for recognizing the truth
 
Err .. how about the rising sea levels, increasing fresh water scarcity, increasing dessertification, increasing number of major weather events .. etc etc etc

Basically, y'know, all the stuff they've been denying could happen for decades but that's now happening and is costing them cold, hard cash.

Must be tough being a reality denier these days: desperately clinging to their fraying tin hats and screaming "La! La! La!" ever louder in a pitiful attempt to drown out the truth. I'd feel for them if their nonsense hadn't been so insanely damaging ..
 
The question is who is REALLY the "reality deniers" here.

IMO, it's the Global warmers who won't admit the reality that several of the pro warming studies have shown to have been out and out faked to support that position.

Also they fail to accept the reality that there were similar temperature changes in the world in periods Before cars ever even became popular or there was any massive industrialization.

The want to place all these tree hugger mandates on the U.S. and Europe while they deny the reality that there's NOTHING They Can Do to offset India, China and other developing nations polluting to the MAX and laughing all the way to the bank at us bowing to the tree huggers.

IMO, most of any "global warming" directly relates to solar activity (flares) that have been affecting the earth far longer than man has been here and probably far longer after we are all dead.

No, I'm not going to debate this or dig around for any back up to what I've said. It's all common knowledge to those who Really Don't deny The Truth and the "Warmers" are simply too entrenched in their lunacy to even admit to the possibility of any other probable scenario than theirs. Frankly, it's been somewhere between beating my head against the wall and a complete waste of my time to even type out THIS short response. :rolleyes: (At least so far as I suspect the Warmers would think.)

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
OcalaFlGuy said:
Wrote some stuff.......
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So.. I was reading what you wrote... and was going to discuss it, agree with some bits, explain some others... ask for clarification in some areas and generally discuss and produce some evidence to drive the discussion forward.. or at least add some interesting bits and bobs... You might have found out what I think (as opposed to what you think I think)

but then I got to this bit.

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No, I'm not going to debate this or dig around for any back up to what I've said.
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So.. there isn't any point in anything you've written here. You don't care if its true or false. You don't really want to hear anything someone else might write,. So I'm genuinely curious as to why you started this thread in the first place?
 
Because the thread wasn't started out as any damn debate on Global warming? :rolleyes:


Please don't flatter yourself thinking I care in the least about your approval of any thread I start.


Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
So.. skipping over anyone who doesn't care to discuss things in a discussion forum :confused:

I admit I was initially confused by the position Apple was taking, especially with their past track record on environmental issues. But thinking about it, its clearly market forces at work. Lots of people who buy Apple products clearly do care about these issues, and thus the position of the company has changed.

And a company that cares about what its customers think... will sell more stuff to them. So everyone's a winner here. Its not really a new playbook at all.
 
I can't help but LMAO when it's Continually pointed out to me that we conservatives are More Than Able to leave it at "we agree to disagree" while More Often the liberals Are OFFENDED if you Won't Allow Them to blather on completely ineffectually in their never ending quest to Drag you over to their side.

It must come back to that being able to see reality point again. :p


Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
well as far as the whole evidence thing goes....... for every fictional statement the alarmists make without evidence other than the proven inaccurate guestimations of fantasy............ the truth can be displayed to shut them down

then they present more fantasies as evidence and get shutdown again....... then it goes on and on in a circle back and forth for a while

then someone says 'hockey stick' (which oddly is still being cited as evidence) .... then the alarmists start mud slinging and ad hominem ....... then it boils into a totally different conversation

its usually much easier to just say youre not going to bother wasting your time arguing with them
 
jefboyardee said:
I'm an Apple denier...
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Is it because Apple started from a criminal enterprise?

Before they Ever made a computer Jobs and Woz made The First digital Blue Box to illegally make free long distance phone calls. They sold 200 of them for $170 each. Jobs said later there'd be no Apple were it not for the Blue Boxes.

The also STOLE the cabinets for the first shipment of Apple II's. They didn't have the money to pay the company that made them for them so while Jobs was distracting the company guy, Woz loaded all the cabinets into their van and absconded. They did come back later though and pay the people after they sold enough completed A II's.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
copestag said:
do you deny apple exists..... or just that its man made?
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No, I just deny everything they make, sell, think or say. Nothing personal, just happier not shelling out extra to them and happier telling myself they're no better than Google/Android/Microsoft/etc/etc/etc/...
 
OcalaFlGuy said:
IMO, it's the Global warmers who won't admit the reality that several of the pro warming studies have shown to have been out and out faked to support that position

Also they fail to accept the reality that there were similar temperature changes in the world in periods Before cars ever even became popular or there was any massive industrialization

The want to place all these tree hugger mandates on the U.S. and Europe while they deny the reality that there's NOTHING They Can Do to offset India, China and other developing nations polluting to the MAX and laughing all the way to the bank at us bowing to the tree huggers.

IMO, most of any "global warming" directly relates to solar activity (flares) that have been affecting the earth far longer than man has been here and probably far longer after we are all dead.

No, I'm not going to debate this or dig around for any back up to what I've said. It's all common knowledge to those who Really Don't deny The Truth and the "Warmers" are simply too entrenched in their lunacy to even admit to the possibility of any other probable scenario than theirs. Frankly, it's been somewhere between beating my head against the wall and a complete waste of my time to even type out THIS short response. :rolleyes: (At least so far as I suspect the Warmers would think.)

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
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Thing is, opinion is opinion and fact is fact. Instead of repeating completely unsupported claims that have been scientifcally proven to be complete and utter nonsense time and time again (as the simplest google will show), why not look at the actual evidence and see what actual research shows? It's about as unequivocal as science gets.

Reality deniers need to stop claiming that up is down and black is white: just because they don't like what the evidence show doesn't change the evidence. Desperately clinging to delusion really doesn't help.
 
Typical Liberal tactics. If they can't somehow convince you their drivel is Fact, they they'll try and Shame You into it by trying to have you believe that THEY'RE the smart ones with All the answers and you're just the idiot with none of them. :rolleyes:

Maybe that works on your Liberal arts minded, commie professor schooled forums where everyone sits in a circle, watches and repeats every line of Al Gore's movie from memory while munching on organic pop corn made with their solar powered corn poppers.

This ain't That forum.

There are probably More people Here with not only much stronger science and math educations but More Importantly, the ability to reason and make decisions On Their Own with EVIDENCE they trust and respect instead of just repeating some rote fairy tale that's been poured into their head.

Speaking as one of Those people who doesn't need Someone Else to do their thinking for them.

One closing thought. Jehovah's Witnesses think that their "Bible" was discovered engraved in Egyptian in gold plates buried in the mountains of New York but even They have enough sense to walk away from the door when someone says they're not interested. (No offense meant to any JW's here of course.)

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
OcalaFlGuy said:
Fantastic... So if you wouldn't mind sharing some of that evidence and reasoning with us...... We'd all benefit from the discussion. And don't worry about those imaginary liberals on other communist forums. They don't exist here.

(Although if there are any we should all ask them some questions and see if how quickly they fold)
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Fantastic... So if you wouldn't mind sharing some of that evidence and reasoning with us...... We'd all benefit from the discussion. And don't worry about those imaginary liberals on other communist forums. They don't exist here.

(Although if there are any we should all ask them some questions and see if how quickly they fold)[/QUOTE]
 
Because I'm intelligent with some common sense, that's why. (Not to mention, I've ALREADY said Why I Won't debate this here. I easily get tired of repeating myself. :rolleyes: )


Debating GW is as stupid as debating guns, abortion, capital punishment, or gay rights. It's just TOO polarizing a topic and the vast majority of minds are Already Solidly Decided one way or the other.


Conservative people have enough sense to KNOW not to have such debates with Liberals NOT because we don't have the answers, but because we're smart enough to realize when we're wasting our time and breath.


Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
Ahh.. Sorry.. It looked like you had information that would be interesting. But if this is the wrong time in the wrong thread I guess we'll have to wait for another time.

Now let's get this thread back on topic... What was it about apple that you wanted to discuss (apart from global warming)?
 
So, I've been following along here. Interesting stuff. The topic here is the Apple CEO stating that folks that deny global warming should sell their stock. Lets keep the conversation to that and leave the intergalactic tug of war between conservatives and liberals for other threads. I'd hate for this, like many P&CA threads, to get locked because sensitive topics aren't debated rationally because they degenerate into name calling flame wars between the left and the right.;)
 
The Apple statement was kinda funny, in a way, because tech ain't exactly environmentally friendly, especially its disposal. Hypocrisy? Everyone's a bit hypocritical, especially me.
 
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