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IP67 rating Waterproof
- Thread starter Pep
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It's not. Not sure if it's the different materials they used on the note 4 (the metal framed galaxy alpha is also lacking this,) or if they decided it would be too hard to do while keeping the s pen easily accessibleHi all.
So can someone confirm that the New Note 4 is not IP67 Rated.
I can't believe that after the S5 is IP67 that they would bring out the Note 4 without it
Pep
cnotes2019
Newbie
Disappointed at this as well 😎
KBlack2595
Lurker
so the note 4/edge is not water/dust proof?
cnotes2019
Newbie
Tsepz_GP
Android Enthusiast
I was initially disappointed by this, but the metal frame for me makes up for it. I've come this far without dropping any of my smartphones in water or getting any sort of water or dust in them, so I'll be fine with it not being IP67 Rated, although I would have preferred it to be.
edlex
Android Expert
Makes sense that the pen is what's holding it back.
zipred
Android Expert
I live on a large peaceful lake. The best time for me to return phone calls is mid morning while I'm water skiing.
The fact that Samsung would fail to include water resistant protection, prevents me from doing my job. I'll have to call Apple for some tips on suing them.
JK / LOL
The fact that Samsung would fail to include water resistant protection, prevents me from doing my job. I'll have to call Apple for some tips on suing them.
JK / LOL
Pizzamannetje
Newbie
I don't see why the s pen would bar water resistance. The pen itself shouldn't be too hard to waterproof and the slot it slides in could just be waterproof all around. Just like the microphone plug in the S5. And since the note is so large they have plenty of space for the additional waterproofing components.
I have another theory. When the designing of this phone started, Samsung had a very different state of mind then they have now. They were king of the castle, especially in the phablets category which they created. But flagship smartphones are reaching a plateau where it's getting harder to bring a greatly updated phone each year.
So here's my theory: they're deliberately holding back so they have some upgrades in the pipeline for next year. I mean, why does my S5 only have 16gb internal storage? And are the plastic sides really that much cheaper to make then the metal sides of the new Note?
Samsung is known to have a shotgun approach to the market. Now that they're loosing market share they'll have to start putting all desirable features on all their high end phones. The time for trying a little of this on one phone and then a little of that on another phone is over. So next year i expect all high end phones like the note, galaxy and alpha to be waterproof, have metal sides, 3gb+ of ram, 32-64 gb of internal storage, have ois cameras, etc. Either that or Samsung will lose market share more rapidly.
Tl;dr: they're holding back on features for the Note 5
I have another theory. When the designing of this phone started, Samsung had a very different state of mind then they have now. They were king of the castle, especially in the phablets category which they created. But flagship smartphones are reaching a plateau where it's getting harder to bring a greatly updated phone each year.
So here's my theory: they're deliberately holding back so they have some upgrades in the pipeline for next year. I mean, why does my S5 only have 16gb internal storage? And are the plastic sides really that much cheaper to make then the metal sides of the new Note?
Samsung is known to have a shotgun approach to the market. Now that they're loosing market share they'll have to start putting all desirable features on all their high end phones. The time for trying a little of this on one phone and then a little of that on another phone is over. So next year i expect all high end phones like the note, galaxy and alpha to be waterproof, have metal sides, 3gb+ of ram, 32-64 gb of internal storage, have ois cameras, etc. Either that or Samsung will lose market share more rapidly.
Tl;dr: they're holding back on features for the Note 5
NeoGrandizer
Android Expert
Okay, here are my thoughts...
IP67: The Note has more 'hardware' packed in it compared to other phones. It's not the just the pen... there's sensors and other things to consider that work with the pen. There's the electromagnetic field it emits to detect pen proximity. The sensor within the silo to detect the pen being taken out. Of course Samsung could have gone around it by making a cover that goes over the pen slot and protecting it.
USB 3.0: going back to USB 2 is not a backward step in my view. More of a lateral step since it never fully utilized USB3.0 in the first place. USB 3.0 on the Note 3 was half baked and never offered anything really substantial. Great transfer speeds only if you used it for internal storage. If using it with the SD card in the phone, it reverts to classic USB 2 speeds. So what real benefit was there? And charging only made a difference when using it in a USB 3.0 port which allows for more amperage compared to USB 2. Using mains to charge, again, negates the benefit of USB 3.0. So, in reality, it was literally a wasted feature. USB 3.0 implementation could have been so much better, but Samsung screwed it up on this one.
Also many are relying on cloud syncs and wireless convenience. Rarely want to be tied down to wires despite the fact it's more secure, reliable and faster. I know many here are more tech savvy, but the masses out there are not.
RAM: Android is still a 32-bit OS coupled with a 32-bit processor. So 4GB will not be recognized in this 32-bit environment. The added GB of RAM will be wasted and offer nothing in this scenario. The 3 GB is the best it can handle at the moment. Until the 64-bit CPUs and 64-bit OS start coming into the market, we are stuck with the limitations of what we have now.
Oh well, I'll probably test drive a Windows Phone for my next upgrade. And maybe swing back to Android when L shows up on devices. By that time, maybe we'll see better utilization of USB3.0 and full SDXC card support.
IP67: The Note has more 'hardware' packed in it compared to other phones. It's not the just the pen... there's sensors and other things to consider that work with the pen. There's the electromagnetic field it emits to detect pen proximity. The sensor within the silo to detect the pen being taken out. Of course Samsung could have gone around it by making a cover that goes over the pen slot and protecting it.
USB 3.0: going back to USB 2 is not a backward step in my view. More of a lateral step since it never fully utilized USB3.0 in the first place. USB 3.0 on the Note 3 was half baked and never offered anything really substantial. Great transfer speeds only if you used it for internal storage. If using it with the SD card in the phone, it reverts to classic USB 2 speeds. So what real benefit was there? And charging only made a difference when using it in a USB 3.0 port which allows for more amperage compared to USB 2. Using mains to charge, again, negates the benefit of USB 3.0. So, in reality, it was literally a wasted feature. USB 3.0 implementation could have been so much better, but Samsung screwed it up on this one.
Also many are relying on cloud syncs and wireless convenience. Rarely want to be tied down to wires despite the fact it's more secure, reliable and faster. I know many here are more tech savvy, but the masses out there are not.
RAM: Android is still a 32-bit OS coupled with a 32-bit processor. So 4GB will not be recognized in this 32-bit environment. The added GB of RAM will be wasted and offer nothing in this scenario. The 3 GB is the best it can handle at the moment. Until the 64-bit CPUs and 64-bit OS start coming into the market, we are stuck with the limitations of what we have now.
Oh well, I'll probably test drive a Windows Phone for my next upgrade. And maybe swing back to Android when L shows up on devices. By that time, maybe we'll see better utilization of USB3.0 and full SDXC card support.