iPhone 5 live launch

[ravenas]

Ok, I'm glad I watched the release news, but wow how much a fizzle could you get? This is like seeing all the best parts in the movie trailer before see the blockbuster movie. Everything was spoiled beforehand.

4" screen
5 rows of icons
LTE
iPhone5 name

Not one new sexy thing to sell the phone to me and identify it as "the" revolutionary thing to own. (As much as I hated Siri hype, that feature was just sexy enough to make the phone seem really fresh and cool.)

This just screams "also ran" in a crowded mobile market.

Lack of NFC is a huge miss. (I've been happily using it to pay for things at the local Wawa for the summer. Very cool.) It opens the field for Samsung and Nokia to push and define the tech. Then Apple can play catch=up again next year.

It'll be interesting to see how the general market reviews the iPhone5. I've been saying all summer I didn't think it would be a huge seller like previous models. I only hedged my bet because I waited for Apple to come out with something huge to make the phone seem revolutionary and compelling (like Siri was last year). They didn't.

 

[3vodroid]

LOL the I phone 5... Where's the "innovation". 4g lte? Umm, welcome to the party. Lol no nfc? Have fun carrying your wallet while I use my phone as mine. Love the new design! Oh wait...it's the same thing..lol Oh one more thing... when you want to watch a video In FULL hd? You can use my HTC evo 4g lte. I-sheep. Pshhhhhh

 

[Bob Maxey]

Now that there's turn by turn and LTE, it is truly revolutionary....

But seriously, as an anti-Apple person, I was hoping for them to do something truly unique and innovative, in order to prove me wrong. Damn I hate being right sometimes

I heard somewhere that Samsung would sue Apple if iPhone 5 had LTE, and I hope they do, for pulling that "rectangular shape" lawsuit on them. And I admit that Apple does make nice hardware and there are shortcomings in Android that they need to fix, but I can't stand the fanboys who blindly just buy Apple just because they think it's the greatest thing ever. Biggest mind trick in human history, if you ask me

Lets see . . . a faster phone, larger screen, a better camera with more features, a better (A6) chip set that is 22% smaller; a thinner overall package (which is not easy to do) a new screen design with brighter colors and better sharpness, faster wireless and a single chip approach to LTE.

The Retina screen technology is a tidy bit of technology nobody here has mentioned.

From the Apple web site:

"Making a thinner, lighter iPhone meant even the display had to be thinner. Apple engineers accomplished that by creating the first Retina display with integrated touch technology. Which means instead of a separate layer of touch electrodes between display pixels, the pixels do double duty

 

[ari-free]

NFC can really revolutionize retail business but Apple doesn't want to have any part of it. Wow, but you can use it for gift cards.

 

[EarlyMon]

Could be he is just guessing. He probably listened to someone who does not know much, either. So, does anyone know which phones are thinner? And does a silly millimeter really matter one way or another?

Speaking for myself, no. Both my brother and I have thin Androids now, different models, and both had the exact same reaction - they feel like a good breeze will pull them out of your hands.

We both now use heavy cases to protect the investment, same thing for iPhone owners in my family.

Make them thicker, give us bigger batteries, that's what I want.

But I guess that thin is in.

 

[Bob Maxey]

LOL the I phone 5... Where's the "innovation". 4g lte? Umm, welcome to the party. Lol no nfc? Have fun carrying your wallet while I use my phone as mine. Love the new design! Oh wait...it's the same thing..lol Oh one more thing... when you want to watch a video In FULL hd? You can use my HTC evo 4g lte. I-sheep. Pshhhhhh

Lack of NFC is not important. I do still carry my wallet because once I hand the clear a hunnard, that is it. That and it is made from snake so it is cool. It makes me fees special.

Anyway, No worry about hackers wen you go cash. As NFC gains momentum, I suspect some people will rue the day they allowed it into their lives.

I say, cash is the new NFC. Well, in a year or so when something bad happens. And we all know there is a good chance it will.

It apparently has started:

NFC hack Android Beam: Charlie Miller demonstrates at Black Hat

Eventually, you will be assimilated into the collective. I know the Borg and the little green robot are kin, and their way into our lives is NFC.

 

[Bob Maxey]

Speaking for myself, no. Both my brother and I have thin Androids now, different models, and both had the exact same reaction - they feel like a good breeze will pull them out of your hands.

We both now use heavy cases to protect the investment, same thing for iPhone owners in my family.

Make them thicker, give us bigger batteries, that's what I want.

But I guess that thin is in.

I am looking into machining some heavy billet aluminum cases for my next phone. Two piece affairs secured with torx heads. Big and beefy, I say. Perhaps I'll anodize them. Or sell them and retire. We all know Apple buyers love 145.00 handmade crap for their iCrap.

My triumph is a light weight. I think its light weight is why it does not break when I drop it. When I pick up an iPhone, its weight is reassuring. Kinda like when I life the bumper from my 1960 Olds Super Eighty Eight then lift a modern polymer bumper.

 

[EarlyMon]

NFC - Good for transactions, data sharing and changing your configuration with NFC tags.

NFC for transactions is not ready for prime time. If a reader fails with my credit card, I hand over the plastic, they call it in, life goes on. What if I have my phone and no plastic? When it first hit, Taiwan evaluated it for commuter trains. Conclusion, too slow compared to present tickets.

Data sharing. Really??

NFC tags. Very cool, but in its infancy.

Did I miss any?

 

[Bob Maxey]

NFC can really revolutionize retail business but Apple doesn't want to have any part of it. Wow, but you can use it for gift cards.

Or . . the public will become scared of its implications. My goal is to kill off NFC before it is widely adopted. I cant prove it, but there is evil lurking out there and thy name is NFC.

Piccard was assimilated partly by using Borgdroid phones.

 

[OfTheDamned]

Could be he is just guessing. He probably listened to someone who does not know much, either. So, does anyone know which phones are thinner? And does a silly millimeter really matter one way or another?

It is a possibility, but you know me, I like to make sure everyone is stating truths.

As far as thinner phones? The Droid Razr is thinner, that can be argued because of the camera hump though. One in the Huawei Ascend line is 6.7mm and the ZTE Athena is 6.2mm. There may be others, but I'm not really interested in looking that hard to be honest.

The thing that tickles me about them hyping the thinness is that I've never seen an iPhone user who doesn't have the thing encased in an Otter Box Defender. Who cares what your phone looks like or how thin it is if it is lodged in that huge chunk of plastic? Maybe the new aluminium (pronounce it correctly) case will set some a little more at ease to walk around sans Otter Box. I guess we'll have to wait for the drop test to know for sure.

Personally I prefer a thinner phone, but there is suck a thing as too thin or too thick and too wide or too narrow. If the phone feels good in your hand and you can use it, then who really cares.

 

[OfTheDamned]

NFC - Good for transactions, data sharing and changing your configuration with NFC tags.

NFC for transactions is not ready for prime time. If a reader fails with my credit card, I hand over the plastic, they call it in, life goes on. What if I have my phone and no plastic? When it first hit, Taiwan evaluated it for commuter trains. Conclusion, too slow compared to present tickets.

Data sharing. Really??

NFC tags. Very cool, but in its infancy.

Did I miss any?

The NFC tags are the cool part to me. QR codes without the camera.

I look forward to having my phone enter car dock mode or home mode with the use of tags in the future.

Or . . the public will become scared of its implications. My goal is to kill off NFC before it is widely adopted. I cant prove it, but there is evil lurking out there and thy name is NFC.

Piccard was assimilated partly by using Borgdroid phones.

Don't worry Bob, they'll still let you pay cash for tinfoil hats.

 

[Bob Maxey]

It is a possibility, but you know me, I like to make sure everyone is stating truths.

As far as thinner phones? The Droid Razr is thinner, that can be argued because of the camera hump though. One in the Huawei Ascend line is 6.7mm and the ZTE Athena is 6.2mm. There may be others, but I'm not really interested in looking that hard to be honest.

The thing that tickles me about them hyping the thinness is that I've never seen an iPhone user who doesn't have the thing encased in an Otter Box Defender. Who cares what your phone looks like or how thin it is if it is lodged in that huge chunk of plastic? Maybe the new aluminium (pronounce it correctly) case will set some a little more at ease to walk around sans Otter Box. I guess we'll have to wait for the drop test to know for sure.

Personally I prefer a thinner phone, but there is suck a thing as too thin or too thick and too wide or too narrow. If the phone feels good in your hand and you can use it, then who really cares.

I am with Early . . . give me a bigger battery. I say thinness be dammed.

 

[EarlyMon]

The NFC tags are the cool part to me. QR codes without the camera.

I look forward to having my phone enter car dock mode or home mode with the use of tags in the future.

Check out Llama in the Store.

 

[Bob Maxey]

NFC - Good for transactions, data sharing and changing your configuration with NFC tags.

NFC for transactions is not ready for prime time. If a reader fails with my credit card, I hand over the plastic, they call it in, life goes on. What if I have my phone and no plastic? When it first hit, Taiwan evaluated it for commuter trains. Conclusion, too slow compared to present tickets.

Data sharing. Really??

NFC tags. Very cool, but in its infancy.

Did I miss any?

You NFC fanboys make me sick, dag nabbit.

 

[Bob Maxey]

Check out Llama in the Store.

Google stole the store idea from Apple.

 

[OfTheDamned]

I am with Early . . . give me a bigger battery. I say thinness be dammed.

I prefer both and use the Razr Maxx. I love getting a day and a half on one charge.

Check out Llama in the Store.

Ok, you lost me on this one.

You NFC fanboys make me sick, dag nabbit.

If you are going to be a fan of something, make sure it is something that nobody understands.

Google stole the store idea from Apple.

Didn't Apple steal the store idea from Best Buy, then again I think they stole it from Walmart who might have stolen it from K-Mart who probably took it from Sears who, I believe took the idea from a guy named Rupert.

 

[EarlyMon]

OTD - Llama is like Tasker but easier for location based configuration programming without NFC. Don't know about the car, but automatic home / office changes may prove easy.

The RAZR MAXX is thin, but has a bigger bezel (larger in 2D). Volume is volume, so either increase 2D size or increase thickness.

With my phone, I would vote for thickness.

 

[Bob Maxey]

Didn't Apple steal the store idea from Best Buy, then again I think they stole it from Walmart who might have stolen it from K-Mart who probably took it from Sears who, I believe took the idea from a guy named Rupert.

I remember when I was a kid, you would download a catalog of records from your mailbox and then place a stamp on the envelope containing your choices and upload the letter to the mailbox. Eventually, Colmbia House would download records directly to your mailbox.

And I made plenty of cell calls as far back as 1974. Actually, I was not in the cell at the time; we were only allowed one call. I think we were even served Spam for lunch.

 

[3vodroid]

It's not just the nfc...What is the iphone 5 bringing to the table that android hasn't? And I didn't just mention nfc? And either way you look at it, whether you use it or not. It's a feature that the iphone doesn't have. I use Google wallet daily. It helps me to budget cash I want to set aside for buying lunch at work. So for me it's incredibly useful. I don't have to worry about going all the way back to my toolbox to grab my wallet bc my phone has the same function. The only neat thing I see on the new iphone is the charging port which seems pretty dang neat.

 

[OfTheDamned]

OTD - Llama is like Tasker but easier for location based configuration programming without NFC. Don't know about the car, but automatic home / office changes may prove easy.

The RAZR MAXX is thin, but has a bigger bezel (larger in 2D). Volume is volume, so either increase 2D size or increase thickness.

With my phone, I would vote for thickness.

LOL I was looking on YouTube.

Moto has Smart Actions which is a lot like Tasker and Llama.

Of course the dimensions of a phone are subject to personal taste and always will be. Thank goodness we have the options available. As a well known 12th century druid once recorded in the The Pillars of the Earth, "Uncer scolde

 

[dan330]

what was apple thinking???

do they think they have totally brainwashed their customers? reality distortion field at 100%

or are they hiding something .. release the "big" new innovation later.. right before the i5 hits the streets?

 

[Steve Adams]

Ok, I'm glad I watched the release news, but wow how much a fizzle could you get? This is like seeing all the best parts in the movie trailer before see the blockbuster movie. Everything was spoiled beforehand.

4" screen
5 rows of icons
LTE
iPhone5 name

Not one new sexy thing to sell the phone to me and identify it as "the" revolutionary thing to own. (As much as I hated Siri hype, that feature was just sexy enough to make the phone seem really fresh and cool.)

This just screams "also ran" in a crowded mobile market.

Lack of NFC is a huge miss. (I've been happily using it to pay for things at the local Wawa for the summer. Very cool.) It opens the field for Samsung and Nokia to push and define the tech. Then Apple can play catch=up again next year.

It'll be interesting to see how the general market reviews the iPhone5. I've been saying all summer I didn't think it would be a huge seller like previous models. I only hedged my bet because I waited for Apple to come out with something huge to make the phone seem revolutionary and compelling (like Siri was last year). They didn't.

the nfc will come in the ip5s. The only new feature to lure the isheep out of their money again.

 

[breadnatty08]

Just finished watching the keynote. Aside from seeing Al Gore on camera a thousand times, I don't think I missed much.
The hardware is gorgeous, but I just think the dimensions, are... weird. Like others have said, from the maybe hundreds of iPhones I've seen in the wild (and yeah, DC is an iPhone town), I could probably count the ones without cases on one hand, so who cares what it looks like. Feel bad about those who need to invest in new cables and accessories (or the dongle).
In regards to NFC, I've only used Wallet a couple times. Haven't tried any tags, but it sounds interesting. Kind of the same thing as a front facing camera. Out of several devices that have one, have I ever used it? Eh, once or twice to make sure it works.
Problem is, there's a lot of potential for NFC and until Apple and other major manufacturers adopt it, there won't be much more development going forward.
On a daily basis, I use (presumably) NFC to get into my apartment and pay for Metro. Would I love not to have to carry those two cards when I always have my key? YES!

Edit: I'm actually tempted to pick up the headphones. I can never find in ear ones that fit mine, and those look interesting, and at $29, not bad in price.

 

[dan330]

i thought about this...

iphone users is the biggest single phone line...
comparing the i5 with the older models..looking at the 4" screen, (bigger than 3.5") this is one of the more asked for feature from current iphone users... and up in performance, then it is a pretty good upgrade.

millions of iphones will be upgraded.. fast. this will be a success.

but i do think there will be a large portion of this market that has been waiting.. and have been consumer savvy enough to know what has been available in OTHER devices. there will be a bleeding of these consumers to android

 

[OfTheDamned]

i thought about this...

iphone users is the biggest single phone line...
comparing the i5 with the older models..looking at the 4" screen, (bigger than 3.5") this is one of the more asked for feature from current iphone users... and up in performance, then it is a pretty good upgrade.

millions of iphones will be upgraded.. fast. this will be a success.

but i do think there will be a large portion of this market that has been waiting.. and have been consumer savvy enough to know what has been available in OTHER devices. there will be a bleeding of these consumers to android

I think any sort of exodus from Apple will depend greatly on how much people already have invested in the ecosystem. Someone with only a few apps and no accessories might decide to switch, but those that have dug themselves in deep with car adapters, stereos, tons of apps, etc. may just end up deciding that they have too much in already.