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Bnice
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What is sad about this is no one went to the police. Why? Because it is a cover up. From the top all the way to down.
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A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
Flat out appeal to emotion much? Not really a good way to form an argument. If these were my kids I would want Paterno to hunt the guy down and torture him to death. Then I'd want him to tell me so I could give him a rock solid alibi. I'd also want him to do the same to McQueary for not stopping it at the time. By that logic if Paterno had reported it to the police at the time it would not have been enough.
Drhyde
Android Enthusiast
My take on the whole situation is this: they all should be fired, even McQueary. This whole event is like a slow-mo Bystander Effect. Each person passed the buck thinking the next person would be the one to do the right thing. Accusations against Sandusky or not, this wasn't a Fatty Arbuckle situation here of one word against another. This was multiple people having witnessed various events over a period of 13 years. The grand jury report for anyone with a strong stomach:
Grand Jury Report on Sandusky
Another site has a sort of condensed version of the Grand Jury Report that really drives home how weird this whole thing is:
Who knew what about Jerry Sandusky
Most telling to me is how the Bystander Effect gets shifted to the next person and they downgrade the severity of Sandusky's actions.
"According to the grand jury, then, here is how McQueary
Grand Jury Report on Sandusky
Another site has a sort of condensed version of the Grand Jury Report that really drives home how weird this whole thing is:
Who knew what about Jerry Sandusky
Most telling to me is how the Bystander Effect gets shifted to the next person and they downgrade the severity of Sandusky's actions.
"According to the grand jury, then, here is how McQueary
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TxGoat
Guest
That's my main point, at what point does he ask himself, "ok I know going to the authorities is going to be a huge distraction to our organization, but what this guy did is one of the most disgusting things someone can do to a child." I think he was just trying to wash his hands of it so it doesn't distract from his program. He did the least he was obligated to do for the sake of his program which IMO isn't moral. Legally, he's in the clear. Morally, I don't see how you can say he's in the clear knowing what he knew when he knew it and several other children are victimized after the fact.
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TxGoat
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Report: Sandusky admits he 'horsed around,' but insists he's innocent - CNN.com
He's saying he's innocent and was just "horsing around"....
He's saying he's innocent and was just "horsing around"....
Drhyde
Android Enthusiast
This to me is even more telling of his guilt. You see this with criminals that have gotten away with their crimes so long that they actually rationalize it away. Of course, he was just horsing around. Those kids are out to get him. Why? What would compel eight kids (possibly more from what I hear) to come out against him? Why would there need to be a three year investigation into his behavior to determine if they were going to bring charges against him?
Sandusky has truly lost all touch with reality if he thinks he's innocent. Is he sexually attracted to young boys? No, he just enjoys young people. As if we couldn't see the double meaning there. There's even subtle hints about this kind of crap in his autobiography. This has to be the least kept secret criminal activity in the history of mankind. With everything against him, anything less than a guilty verdict will be an outrage.
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Dark Jedi
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Casey Anthony got away with murder. The so anything is possible.
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TxGoat
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Bnice
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It's obvious Sandusky has issues. He sees no fault in his actions. I'm glad to see Mike Mcqueary did more than just walk away. But with all this talking Sandusky doing, he might have just sealed his doom.
Frisco
=Luceat Lux Vestra=
Well, once busted he is saying such things. My guess is that he's just trying to minimize his actions as a part of the legal denials he's going to be spending the rest of his life doing.
There has already been one victim making the statement that he was "astounded" by Sandusky's remarks about that.
Call me old fashioned, but to me "horsing around" is snapping somebody on the fanny with a wet wound up towel, not showering with them nude and .. doing something that got the attention of a co-worker who felt inclined to immediately report it.
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TxGoat
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Legendary Penn State coach Paterno dead at 85 - CNN.com
The only remorse I find myself experiencing is that some victims may not get the closure they deserve since one of the parties now won't be able to give their story. Many people are still celebrating his triumphs, but I think having a predator among his staff practically nullifies all his accomplishments.
The only remorse I find myself experiencing is that some victims may not get the closure they deserve since one of the parties now won't be able to give their story. Many people are still celebrating his triumphs, but I think having a predator among his staff practically nullifies all his accomplishments.
Frisco
=Luceat Lux Vestra=
Sometimes a comedic headline can help with the understanding of something like the (quite proper) Paterno firing. From The Onion:
Joe Paterno Dies In Hospital; Doctors Promise To Tell Their Superiors First Thing Tomorrow
Joe Paterno Dies In Hospital; Doctors Promise To Tell Their Superiors First Thing Tomorrow
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TxGoat
Guest
Sometimes a comedic headline can help with the understanding of something like the (quite proper) Paterno firing. From The Onion:
lol, as much as you want to have respect for someone in their passing, you still feel bad about the lives that their actions negatively affected.
I read a comment somewhere about his passing, why attempt chemo treatment on such an advanced aged body? I've heard some people describe chemotherapy as hell. At such an advanced age isn't it best just to go ahead and live out your remaining years without going through the hell of chemo? I can't help but wonder if the chemotherapy was more along the lines of a mercy killing for having to deal with the shame of it all.