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Root LG allows you to unlock the G4 Bootloader!

From LG -

"2. Unlocking the phone will disable certain functions of your phone.

When unlocking the bootloader, the DRM protection of your phone will become untrusted.

Some applications which require DRM protection may not work anymore or block certain functions due to this untrusted DRM.

Common examples are applications which offer download/streaming of paid multimedia content like music and movies."

Talk about epic failure and doing it wrong.

Look LG, Google and HTC manage to provide a user-unlockable bootloader with zero of this nonsense (apart from the very few providers that think a rooted Android is the same thing as a jailbroken iPhone).

Get your architecture together ok.
 
Sony behave in the same way, they bork some camera features too.

Annoying, yes, but not the end of the world.
Did Netflix work on the Sony with the bootloader unlocked?

Maybe that's not the end of the world.

But I'm not going to lose streaming media and I won't live with a locked bootloader, so I'm not going to be a potential LG customer now.

Oh well.
 
Did Netflix work on the Sony with the bootloader unlocked?

Maybe that's not the end of the world.

Just content purchased from Sony's online movie as far as was aware. Although I've searched a bit and some say Netflix works, some say it doesn't. HD Youtube videos don't work.

But yeah, I didn't realise it would affect Netflix or youtube so that's a game changer :(
 
Just content purchased from Sony's online movie as far as was aware. Although I've searched a bit and some say Netflix works, some say it doesn't. HD Youtube videos don't work.

But yeah, I didn't realise it would affect Netflix or youtube so that's a game changer :(
I'm assuming that's the case because neither HTC nor Google touch the DRM firmware during a bootloader unlock.

There's no excuse for it.

And as you'll recall from our past adventures together - some handsets could have a locked bootloader, just rooted by an exploit - and some services (big one was on your side of the water - was it Sky? - was enough to cause them to fail. You may recall my claim that simply turning off root would fix that, and your reply that they closed that loophole and even that wasn't enough.

Point being - can't do anything about butthead services because those services simply were using the built-in DRM firmware.

The statement by LG is nothing short of shocking to me.

I absolutely pray I'm wrong.

And if I am - why did they say that and why did they say that in that way?

It says this -

"When unlocking the bootloader, the DRM protection of your phone will become untrusted."

It doesn't say this -

"When rooting some services may no longer trust you due to fear of media stream copying."

It says - bootloader unlock - DRM protection (that's hardware in the S0C and supporting firmware, not some software) goes untrusted.

Inexcusable language if not true.
 
what DRM content do I actually need from LG? Probably none.
Not sure why you think it's about that - it's not.

Media providers - especially streaming media suppliers - require DRM protection in order to maintain supply licenses with Hollywood (as a major example).

One way to do that is purely through a software exchange of permissions between you and them.

That was proven to be a failure years ago but that's how it's still done on Windows and Macs.

For Android, that problem was solved 4 years ago -

http://pocketnow.com/android/qualcomm-snapdragon-based-androids-first-to-get-netflix

DRM got baked in the main processor and has been ever since.

The phone or tablet manufacturer has to turn it on in their firmware and then embed the appropriate DRM security keys in their firmware.

That's what it takes to complete a DRM circuit between you and Netflix or any other media provider using the standard model.

LG's passive statement about "DRM protection becoming untrusted," followed by the warning that streaming media is likely to break says - to me - that as a disincentive to rooters and to keep themselves out of some liability that the lawyers dreamed up - that they intend to disable the DRM circuit.

If true - and that's exactly how their wording reads - you can kiss Netflix and anything like it goodbye.

There's nothing about content from LG in the equation.

With the Sony, you'd lose the cool camera stuff. Lock it back up and the DRM circuit for the camera was restored and you were back in business.

LG on the other hand is warning that here, the operation is permanent and cannot be reversed.

Given that the LG bootloader has never been unlocked by the dev community, I think that it would be the acme of folly to expect rooting to somehow fix this.

We'll see.
 
So I have a question. I've tried to research it but cannot find an answer. I have the international unlocked G4. I dont have a computer as I treat my phone like my computer. To unlock my bootloader and get root do I absolutely NEED a pc or do I just wait for a better root method and hope that the method would ultimately unlock the bootloader as well? Or am I just confusing myself? Clarification would be appreciated thank you
 
So I have a question. I've tried to research it but cannot find an answer. I have the international unlocked G4. I dont have a computer as I treat my phone like my computer. To unlock my bootloader and get root do I absolutely NEED a pc or do I just wait for a better root method and hope that the method would ultimately unlock the bootloader as well? Or am I just confusing myself? Clarification would be appreciated thank you

If you have another android device, look here ---> http://forums.androidcentral.com/be...ol-native-adb-fastboot-your-phone-tablet.html
 
Damn, was not aware of this. Due my upgrade from 2 years of Sony's restrictions, was a toss up between the M9 and the G4. Thought the G4 looked better for me and was going to order today, just thought I'd check the rooting progress first, good job. However, does this mean it is only possible to root if you do unlock your boot loader too, can't just root and keep stock based firmwares on a locked boot loader again?
Also, pretty sure I know the answer, guess it checks the DRM well before the root access but the likes of rootcloak etc wouldn't be able to hide the "untrusted" status?
 
Yea I was looking into that earlier. Looks like they have pushed that way out early due to how popular the phone has become. Got yours yet? Take it EE lock it up then. Thought I read somewhere it is region dependant on LG so being European would be unlockable? Think I might just leave EE anyway now and go with Virgin, as I can't get 4G within about 40 miles of where I live anyway and the contract is a good £10pm cheaper with them...still uming and ahing trying to decide.
With regards to bootloader, as I wasn't able I didn't read too much into it, but did the custom ROMs (that you needed to unlock bootloader for), need you to keep your bootloader unlocked while running them? So if running custom you would never be able to have your DRM keys, unless you decide to go back stock and restore the TA and lock back up? Have the brainboxes at XDA made a way to backup their TA partition (if that's what it is in LG too)?
Sorry, going OT now, just curious.
 
TA Partition is a Sony only thing, I've no idea how LG handles DRM keys.

The custom ROMs (there aren't many, just rooted/deodexed stock offerings) require an unlocked bootloader at all times and as things stand, there's no way to relock the bootloader once it's been unlocked either.

The European models are unlockable, but only unbranded AFAIK.

As a side note, tell EE you're going to leave. I was paying £53 a month for 20GB and an extra tenner for their clone phone, but after haggling with a totally legendary Geordie called Cole, I'm now getting 20Gb for £39.99 and Clone phone only costs me £8 a month. :D
 
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