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mnewsome

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Writing to inquire... Have the LG125DL flip phone and seek guidance on finding an error log and the expected life span of the LG BL-49H1H. Also, Does there a newer version of this battery on the market either in or out of the brand.

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mnewsome said:
Writing to inquire... Have the LG125DL flip phone and seek guidance on finding an error log and the expected life span of the LG BL-49H1H. Also, Does there a newer version of this battery on the market either in or out of the brand.

Guidance sought
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no idea on your phone. but usually you can pull them from your phone to your computer. it is not that easy and you will need adb setup on your computer.

here is a guide for you:
https://yoodley.com/view-and-examine-android-logs/

most phones have an end of life of about 3-4 years. this is where manufacturers and carriers will cease to offer support for the device. also that is the average life of a typical cellphone battery. but your phone is one of the few that comes with a removable battery. as for new batteries, i'm sure that there are plenty of 3rd party batteries that will work for your phone.
 
I refuse to accept disposable tech. 3-4 years is still brand new as far as I'm concerned. Besides, the planet cannot sustain infinite consumption when everyone uses their phone to do the same things today that that did in 2010.

Lack of updates is not end of life. Phone will work as long as the network it supports exists.
 
nickdalzell said:
I refuse to accept disposable tech. 3-4 years is still brand new as far as I'm concerned. Besides, the planet cannot sustain infinite consumption when everyone uses their phone to do the same things today that that did in 2010.

Lack of updates is not end of life. Phone will work as long as the network it supports exists.
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"end of life" is a terminology. it just means that manufacturers and carriers will stop providing updates. it does not mean the phone will cease to work afterwards.
 
You'd be surprised how many toss out a perfectly functional phone because it no longer gets updates, based on none other than someone telling them 'ya gonna get hacked using that thing! it no longer gets security patches!'

It never ceases to turn my stomach.

Everyone upgrades their phones. They don't even wait until their's breaks either. They buy something they don't need because NEW SHINY! even though phones have been the same since 2015, and not in a good way. I'd long for a return to 2010 myself. Never will forgive carriers for disabling my ability to use my HTC Thunderbolt. NEVER. You can't even buy a phone with all of:

1. Removable battery
2. IR Blaster
3. Headphone jack
4. Notification LED
5. screen under 5" in size
6. Plastic construction that doesn't break when you look at it crosseyed.

If such a phone exists and works in this 5G hellscape I'm open to ideas. I'm just so darned angry. I had finally found a Android phone I could live with and the carriers straight up killed it for NO reason.
 
nickdalzell said:
You'd be surprised how many toss out a perfectly functional phone because it no longer gets updates, based on none other than someone telling them 'ya gonna get hacked using that thing! it no longer gets security patches!'

It never ceases to turn my stomach.

Everyone upgrades their phones. They don't even wait until their's breaks either. They buy something they don't need because NEW SHINY! even though phones have been the same since 2015, and not in a good way. I'd long for a return to 2010 myself. Never will forgive carriers for disabling my ability to use my HTC Thunderbolt. NEVER. You can't even buy a phone with all of:

1. Removable battery
2. IR Blaster
3. Headphone jack
4. Notification LED
5. screen under 5" in size
6. Plastic construction that doesn't break when you look at it crosseyed.

If such a phone exists and works in this 5G hellscape I'm open to ideas. I'm just so darned angry. I had finally found a Android phone I could live with and the carriers straight up killed it for NO reason.
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it's not just new and shiny. it's all about new and innovative. i love my z fold 3 was going to get the z fold 4, but really there was not much of a huge upgrade. looking to see what the z fold 5 will look like before i decide if i want to upgrade or not. if they integrate the s-pen into the device then i am sold on it.

for me i know that older devices will get slower and slower as technology advances. i know that app developers only support older os's for so long and then their apps will fail to work on older devices. new android os will always get faster and faster and be more resource hungry than older devices. and with phones not having a removable battery any more, i know that my phone's battery life will deteriorate over time........ it is what it is.

edit: plus i always do the trade in offer whenever i upgrade. i never throw away any electronics. i always go to Best Buy and have them recycle all of my electronics.
 
That's just it though. If you treat your phone like a toy and let it get all banged up and shattered (every phone everyone is glued to outdoors has spidered screens, I don't think I've seen one intact in years!) sure.

But I tend to take care of everything and intend to live a buy it for life lifestyle. I was raised that way by my great grandparents. They never bought anything new and kept repairing things that broke. I learned my own mechanical skills that way as well.

I don't torture my devices, and I never update the software so they don't slow down. It's not that odd a concept though. But everyone else assumes that big red shiny 'update' button can't be avoided and then complains on Google Play about the changes and performance issues and while sometimes the dev will reply saying 'then why did you update?' it never gets fixed.

Take care of what you own and it will take care of you. Don't update for update's sake. If it weren't for the carriers disabling my Thunderbolt I'd be happy with it today given I don't need a phone to do anything but call, text, play music and do an occasional search or write a note. I'm not doing anything today I wasn't doing in 2010.

Flip phones today are as bad as smartphones. They run smartphone OSs (such as KaiOS) complete with Google Assistant and tracking. Maybe that was the actual point of the whole network switch? To ensure everyone can be tracked because heaven forbid anyone prefer a Thunderbolt in 2022!!! Gosh I hate people right now. It really infuriates me I'm stuck with a phone I can't properly enjoy because some nimrod at Straight Talk and Verizon both thinks the FUTURE DERR IS BETTERRRR!

Recycling isn't the solution. Recycling still requires resources. It's not 100%. It's supposed to be reduce, reuse first. Everything I learned in Economics was a lie as well. Companies are supposed to listen to customer demand! Where was the demand to lose removable batteries? Where was the demand for huge screens? Seriously why must EVERYTHING be the SAME? There's no choice left. The companies decided and we just allowed it without question. That's not how the free market is supposed to work! Companies are supposed to listen to customers and make changes based on customers demanding it enough first. Not their darned shareholders. It'd be one thing for Apple to do this because that's what they always did. But Android is not any better anymore. Everything is homogenized, boring crap. Why isn't there one phone available to satisfy ME anymore? Why couldn't they just let me continue using my preferred model until the networks actually died off first? The 1x network still exists for crying out loud!

Seriously let me be dead before Agenda 2030 becomes reality...
 
ocnbrze said:
most phones have an end of life of about 3-4 years. this is where manufacturers and carriers will cease to offer support for the device. also that is the average life of a typical cellphone battery. but your phone is one of the few that comes with a removable battery. as for new batteries, i'm sure that there are plenty of 3rd party batteries that will work for your phone.
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It does also depend on usage. I'd expect a basic "dumb" phone battery to last longer than that just because the battery life itself is much better than a smartphone and so it goes through fewer charge cycles in a year. Conversely if someone is going through a couple of full cycles a day they'll exhaust the battery capacity faster. I typically get 4-5 years from a smartphone battery myself.

This seems to be a 2020 handset, so you can probably get original batteries for it still. There comes a point where that ceases to be true: when the phone hasn't been manufactured for a few years and few people are buying replacement batteries it's not worth the original manufacturer making them any more. Asking for a newer version of the battery is optimistic. I assume what is actually meant is "higher capacity" (no other improvements are really possible, since the battery must be compatible with the phone's charging system), but it's unlikely the manufacturer has produced one - if they had they'd release it at the same time as the phone, in order to get the maximum number of sales. As noted above, the older the phone gets and the fewer there are in use the less likely they'll do something like this. Which leaves third-party batteries, to which all I can say is do your research first: it's not unusual for third party manufacturers to claim higher capacities but the claims not stand up in reality. This used to be a common topic when all phones had swappable batteries, but since few do these days it's discussed less, but I've no reason to believe that it will have changed.
 
nickdalzell said:
I've gotten cheaper results on Amazon. Even an OEM battery for my Galaxy S5 goes for $8 there.
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Is it really an OEM battery? I ask because I remember being sold a "OEM battery" from a reputable seller that turned out to contain no voltage or temperature sensors, i.e. a really cheap knock-off packaged as an original battery. At least I was able to get my money back on that, but when faced with someone selling an OEM battery for a 2014 handset my first instinct is to ask "is this real?".

Of course if it is real there's a different problem: Samsung stopped making the s5 in 2015, so how long do we guess they continued to make batteries for it after that? It's likely that any OEM s5 battery has sat on a shelf for several years, which isn't ideal either. I'm wary of third party batteries as I've met some knock-offs that I considered positively dangerous, but if I were buying for an s5 today I might look for a decent quality third party rather than an old OEM (though who knows how many third party vendors are still making batteries for a phone that old? I don't know how big the market for them will still be).
 
It looks OEM, and even has NFC working (most knockoffs lack that feature since it was part of the battery then). It gets a day to a day and a half use. My original swelled and almost popped the screen out. Thankfully unlike a stupid modern phone a swelling battery doesn't mean you have to toss the phone away and buy a new one. Maybe that would have saved the Note 7? hmm?

It only costs me $7 and was listed as used, so I doubt it was a knockoff at all. My Nokia 5185i which I was still happily using until 2009 because that was what I was used to then was still going from $1 piles of batteries at the Goodwill, but sadly by then they were all pretty spent. That was what got me into smartphones, my boss tired of not being able to reach me because my phone would be low battery or dead minutes into a call handed me an iPhone 3GS and forced me to use that or be fired.

I didn't fully convert to Android until iOS 7 and 'flat UI design' happened. Then, at least Samsung kept the Gingerbready skeuomorphism going on the SIII and S4.

I loved 2010 UI design. I loved Sense 3. I loved TouchWiz Nature UX. Those phones kept me tied to a good part of my life. Now gone thanks to carrier arrogance. I can't even unlock the bootloader or root anymore. Stupid Carriers. Oh sure, I can still run Angry Birds 1.6.2 and Dolphin Browser 2.x and the original UC Browser from 2009, but I'll never be able to completely recreate Sense 3 or Nature UX via a theme/launcher pack.
 
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Sadly I fear Nokia-syndrome will one day creep up on me, but that phone was over 10 years old and ran on NiMH batteries, which don't last nearly as long overall as a Li-ion.
 
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