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Root Linux on Evo V?

Kahroo

Kahroo

Android Expert
So I heard you can install Linux on phones/tablets. I was wondering how good is Linux on phones? I bet it is laggy, but how laggy?

Also if I installed Linux on my phone dose that mean I can play PC Minecraft?
 
the short answer is yes it can be installed but no you can't play the PC version of minecraft.

Your linux installation would be one for ARM devices and wouldn't natively run x86 applications.

Besides, linux on your phone is just how you would imagine it, a terrible experience. You really want to try using a desktop OS on a 4 inch screen with no physical keyboard or mouse?
 
softtech said:
Um, Android runs on top of Linux and always has.

In other words, you are ALREADY running Linux.

Sheesh
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True, but it's a highly optimized version of Linux. The contents of all the applets in your busybox is only about 1 Meg in size. Functionally it's more like an embedded system vs. a true OS.
 
OverByter said:
Functionally it's more like an embedded system vs. a true OS.
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It sure provides a ton of services, just like a true OS. It sure allows all sorts of apps to run under it, just like a true OS.

Honestly, I have no idea what you mean by that whatsoever. It's running modern versions of Linux and is quite full-featured. You're drawing a distinction without a difference.
 
softtech said:
It sure provides a ton of services, just like a true OS. It sure allows all sorts of apps to run under it, just like a true OS.

Honestly, I have no idea what you mean by that whatsoever. It's running modern versions of Linux and is quite full-featured. You're drawing a distinction without a difference.
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It's running a Linux kernel and that's pretty much it , apps are usually written in C or java and then compiled, most of the services that you're referring to are usually applets contained within the busybox and then eventually everything gets run on the Dalvik VM so it reminds me more of programming for an embedded system as opposed to development in a true Linux environment. Then again I come from an embedded systems background so that probably has something to do with my viewpoint on the subject.
 
OverByter said:
It's running a Linux kernel and that's pretty much it , apps are usually written in C or java and then compiled, most of the services that you're referring to are usually applets contained within the busybox and then eventually everything gets run on the Dalvik VM so it reminds me more of programming for an embedded system as opposed to development in a true Linux environment. Then again I come from an embedded systems background so that probably has something to do with my viewpoint on the subject.
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I don't know what to tell you. An operating system provides services. This one provides services. There is a Linux kernel on top of which is an Android OS. It *is* Linux.

I really don't think you understand what BusyBox is from your description. I suggest that you google it and read up on it and maybe then you'll understand that you are focusing entirely too much energy on a very minor part of the OS. In fact, you can upgrade your BusyBox. Look on the Play Store and you'll find apps that will give you as complete a BusyBox as you want (though I don't think that it will affect you much in any way to do so; nonetheless, if it makes you feel better, please, by all means, do so; you won't hurt anything).

Yes, the Dalvik machine is a Java JIT engine and it isolates each app in its own vm sandbox. So?

And yes, there are similarities to an embedded system, but embedded systems also have full-fledged operating systems. I continue to think that you are making a distinction without a difference.
 
Services are not contained in Busybox.

Android =
Embedded Linux OS +
Dalvik Virtual Machine +
apps that run inside the Dalvik and call Linux library services

Busybox is a mega-app that provides the collection of standard unix text-based building block applications.

Android doesn't have a windowing system, the front end comes via the apps.

And it lacks the superuser binary and the building blocks, but those are trivial to acquire via rooting.

If you would like to see the architectural layout of running Ubuntu along side Android, along with some screenies and an explanation of what you can and can't do, please see -

http://androidforums.com/evo-3d-all-things-root/387978-ubuntu-linux-3vo.html

If you want to replace Android with another Linux distribution, ok, but why? :)
 
PS - given the subject matter and that your video and my thread both confirm for you that root is required, I've moved this up to the root forum.
 
i used complete linux installer to try it out. it works nice and fast using backtrack, firefox dosent work in any of em, and chrome is blank. but the os does work, i was even able to open up a terminal and install cario dock. that being said. it ran like crap.
 
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