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looking for an mp3 player,,,,,

miltk said:
except, for instance, i have 200 songs in my "oldies A-C" folder, and over 1000 oldies total. a folder player will play those songs by filename which starts with the artist's name. the other players play the songs alphabetically BY SONG TITLE which messes up the sequence and mixes all the artists, which btw i just found that poweramp does. i'm not about to give a track number to these 1000+ individual songs,,,or put a batch (xxx) in front of each file name. a folder player plays the sequence innately.
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Now I understand why you are having so much trouble. You have a weird way of arrangement. Track numbers go for albums. Using Razz's example of an album where the songs should be played in order (a musical), the album consists of around 17 songs which need to be played in a certain order following track numbers 1-17. Even if you have proper tags your oldies will play in a certain order where all tracks with the tag number 1 will play first, before all those with tag number 2. Maybe you had better explain how exactly you have arranged your songs so we can help you.

One option in PowerAmp you can do is make a playlist for an entire folder, for example your "oldies A-C". Then going to PowerAmp, go the "Playlists" then long press on the playlist, then select "sort". One of the choices there is sort by filename. Inside lists, you can also show filenames by pressing the menu/settings button>list options>show filenames.
 
chanchan05 said:
Now I understand why you are having so much trouble. You have a weird way of arrangement.
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But I don't have a weird arrangement. I ripped my CDs in the standard hierarchy of Artist and album subfolders. All music is tagged properly. But if I play an album (in WinAmp or the stock Android music player), the album's songs are played in alphabetical order, not track order.

In doing a web search, I see many people complaining about this problem for years.
 
RazzMaTazz said:
But I don't have a weird arrangement. I ripped my CDs in the standard hierarchy of Artist and album subfolders. All music is tagged properly. But if I play an album (in WinAmp or the stock Android music player), the album's songs are played in alphabetical order, not track order.

In doing a web search, I see many people complaining about this problem for years.
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Well that's odd. If that's the case I don't know why I'm having no trouble. I just sync and they play fine in track order whatever music player I use.
 
chanchan05 said:
Now I understand why you are having so much trouble. You have a weird way of arrangement. Track numbers go for albums. Using Razz's example of an album where the songs should be played in order (a musical), the album consists of around 17 songs which need to be played in a certain order following track numbers 1-17. Even if you have proper tags your oldies will play in a certain order where all tracks with the tag number 1 will play first, before all those with tag number 2. Maybe you had better explain how exactly you have arranged your songs so we can help you.

One option in PowerAmp you can do is make a playlist for an entire folder, for example your "oldies A-C". Then going to PowerAmp, go the "Playlists" then long press on the playlist, then select "sort". One of the choices there is sort by filename. Inside lists, you can also show filenames by pressing the menu/settings button>list options>show filenames.
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well,,,i have over 1000 individual singles downloaded over time,,,like over a decades worth. so i don't tag them with a track number because what's the point....there's several hundred artists here :). the ORDER i create is the filename order "artist - song.mp3. that way they get played BY ARTIST. if i want to random them i will opt for shuffle. apps that play by alphabetical song title is essentially a shuffle system because then the artists are all mixed. my way has worked fine because the album stuff gets played correctly,,,that is until my latest album download was out of order. i'll be honest that i'm used to my sony and cowon, and i RARELY IF EVER have used my android phone. and of late i bought a samsung galaxy player, so this whole android mp3 app thing is new to me and i don't like it.

inevitably i have to tag them my way anyway because some songs are download with their own weird filename. i cannot say that track number has been reliable for me when it came to album stuff, so i got into the habit or renaming all the files anyway....it looks cleaner my way. i did not know power amp has a filename option. thanks for the info. does this have to be done within a playlist? and how do i make a playlist of 200 songs in a folder?....thx
 
You can long press on a folder and select "add to playlist". I haven't tried it but AFAIK it would add everything in the folder into a playlist.

To be honest, I have over 3000 songs and singles, but I have them still tagged properly. I even have singles from a particular album, but its the only song I have from that album, but I still have it tagged to its album track number, album and artist. I find it easier to look for them whatever software I use. Plus I have them arranged in folders in a user>music>artists>albums>tracks hierarchy.
 
miltk said:
...how do i make a playlist of 200 songs in a folder?....thx
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As I mentioned previously, you can use an app like Playlist Designer (free) to automatically generate a playlist for an entire folder.

miltk said:
...the ORDER i create is the filename order "artist - song.mp3. that way they get played BY ARTIST. if i want to random them i will opt for shuffle. apps that play by alphabetical song title is essentially a shuffle system because then the artists are all mixed.
inevitably i have to tag them my way anyway because some songs are download with their own weird filename. i cannot say that track number has been reliable for me when it came to album stuff, so i got into the habit or renaming all the files anyway....it looks cleaner my way.
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There are free PC programs (like Tag&Rename) that can automatically scan your music collection, recognize your songs (unless they're local bands) and fix your ID3 tags using Internet databases. Tag&Rename can even use your file-names and folder-names to make ID3 tags. For example, since your songs seem to be named "artist - song.mp3" (and you've nicely used a "-" delimiter), you can have Tag&Rename edit your ID3 tags by artist and song name based on what's before and after the "-" delimiter. Otherwise your filenames are irrelevant to most modern music player apps since nowadays, all sorting is based on ID3 tags & playlists.

Some music player apps, like MixZing, can play albums by track number, as well as play entire folders. So if your ID3 tags are correct, it doesn't matter what folders your music is in because most music player apps (like MixZing) use the phone's music database to enable sorting by artist, album, or song.

I have about 5000 songs and everything works fine with MixZing. I can play by artist, album or folder. Albums play in track number order.

I guess I don't understand why you seem to be doing things in a work-intensive, outdated method based on file names rather than taking advantage of modern-day ID3 tagging and playlists.
 
I would prefer mp3tagpro.. However the app is paid but believe me from 6 years it has never put me down... It doesn't put lyrics automatically but it arranged my library so well that i started to hate itunes.... For lyrics is use a2z lyrics and for album art i use google image search.. :P i am outdated but it provides me satisfaction...
 
MixZing dynamically streams and displays lyrics for a song if you ask it to. I'm not sure that I would want to actually add lyrics to the ID3 tags, but I guess it's a relatively small amount of data so I guess it doesn't use up much storage space.
 
herecomesmaggi said:
I would prefer mp3tagpro.. However the app is paid but believe me from 6 years it has never put me down... It doesn't put lyrics automatically but it arranged my library so well that i started to hate itunes.... For lyrics is use a2z lyrics and for album art i use google image search.. :P i am outdated but it provides me satisfaction...
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i have mp3tag...i never knew there was a pro version. what are the benefits?
 
Heheh yeah totally different piece of softwares, actually i purchased that in a scheme offer back in 2009-2010 . B4 that i used mediamonkey to save lyrics and tags in mp3 but tagpro made it easier cause every album i owned has album cover in folder and artist cover, lyrics i leeched from a2z lyrics... :)
 
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