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Low RAM?
- Thread starter vikingjunior
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IHateMyTreo
Android Expert
Have you done a "battery pull"?
Edit:
my numbers are pretty much the same as yours.
Edit:
my numbers are pretty much the same as yours.
vikingjunior
Well-Known Member
Has no accessible battery.
IHateMyTreo
Android Expert
LOL I know, but the equivalent of a battery pull is done by simultaneously holding the power button and volume down button for 15 seconds. See if the RAM use changes.
BTW how do you get to the RAM usage screen?
Methos1979
Android Enthusiast
That's not low at all - that's really good! My generally runs down around 80 mb available.
PowrDroid
Well-Known Member
Yikes! Mine's around 240 MB and I thought that was on the low side.
Methos1979
Android Enthusiast
I have a ton of apps loaded and running. I used to worry and used a memory wipe app called Fast Reboot that would shut down a bunch of programs and free up a couple hundred meg of RAM, but it only works for a few seconds as the programs just reopen. The phone knows what it needs to run and it never seems to bog down from a lack of RAM issue so I not longer worry about it. Load that sucker up and stop worrying about available RAM!!! It's made to be used.
Methos1979
Android Enthusiast
What he said!
vikingjunior
Well-Known Member
I don't believe that I think the low ram is the reason for the laggy JB update. I wish I would of got the 2gb S3.
Rxpert83
Dr. Feelgood
2gb is not needed for any reason. I'm on jellybean with 1gb and there's absolutely no lag.
It's not a function of lack of ram
rushmore
Extreme Android User
1.2 gb free here. S3.
That said, all my other devices are 1gb and no problems. Maybe a rogue app?
If it's not being used, then it's going to waste. Having extra unused RAM is pointless.
With that said, have you followed the Laggy JB thread? There were a couple new fixes that surfaced that may help you solve that issue. It worked for the others that posted there.
rushmore
Extreme Android User
Presuming all the apps sitting in memory are simply dormant in a register stack, that is true, but not if most or all are having data activity. That is a problem with Android and why iOS is more battery efficient. Only a few tasks can use the CPU at the same time, where Android can have alll kinds of silly stuff going on. A key reason an Android device in sleep mode can kill the battery in a week, but iOS will only lose 5%- if that.
I won't argue with you since just by that it seems you know a lot more about this than I do. However, what I said was mostly an exaggeration. But the free amounts we have are still more than enough. Add another 40mb to it or so because the settings process takes up that much, we're looking at about 100 free megabytes of RAM. Having that extra 1GB or so from the GS3 isn't really useful, as far as I know.
vikingjunior
Well-Known Member
I would still like to see 2gb in it and let me be the judge.
Funny, I said this in another post and got blasted for it too. I think the lagginess is a function of using up the cache and ram too, and I think JB may have worsened resource mgmt. My pc does the same thing when it runs close on ram...it lags. Also, I got smacked on calling the phone slow when I didn't (it's really fast!). Some people don't know the diff b/t lag and slow...they are not the same.
Is there a RMHD out there with stock JB, or they all updated from ICS? Would like to see the diff if possible.
Rxpert83
Dr. Feelgood
Your pc is running windows though. If it were running some variant of linux that would be a better comparison.
Windows does get extremely slow and laggy when its out of ram.
Android is built off of the linux kernel. Android, just like linux, considers free ram wasted ram, and will occupy it to speed things up. If it needs more, it just releases some to be used where it needs it
Wow, a very well-placed and articulated point you make, my jedi friend! Seriously, I had no idea about this...and I will have to study! Thanks for clarifying!!
rushmore
Extreme Android User
I think the lag is more to do with apps all trying to use the memory bus at the same time rather than low ram. I have the problem with the GS3 sometimes as well. Especially when using the browser and typing in forums that have a lot of java junk going on.
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Case in point about same time access, ALL Android devices lag if you try to update apps in the market while doing something else. My iPad 3 and my son's iPod 4 do not lag just about ever. I can update a bunch of apps and play a game or watch video with no issues (smooth). Not so with any of my Android devices nor what I had before.
Added:
Case in point about same time access, ALL Android devices lag if you try to update apps in the market while doing something else. My iPad 3 and my son's iPod 4 do not lag just about ever. I can update a bunch of apps and play a game or watch video with no issues (smooth). Not so with any of my Android devices nor what I had before.