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mrex

mrex

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does mu-mimo routers really works?

im abit confused. They advertised mu-mimo routers, but then there is a really tiny text somewhere "a client need to support it". So what exactly do i benefit to buy an expensive mu-mimo router? Nothing?

my cable modem (including router, from isp) crashes sometimes and may slowdown too. It seems to be that it has problem to keep several connections up: nas (ethernet), wifi: android tvbox, laptops, tablets, phones... it's only working on a 2,4 ghz band. so... i was thinking to get a router (ac, both 2,4 and 5 ghz bands), connect it to my cable modem and change the modem to the brigde mode. All devices are then connected to the router. (going to be problem with NAS accessing from internet??)

But is there any point to spend 200-300 euros for a mu-mimo router? i was thinking these two:
tp link archer c2600 (dual band)
asus ac87u (dual band)

(edit. asus is actually dual band, not tri band)
 
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mrex said:
does mu-mimo routers really works?

im abit confused. They advertised mu-mimo routers, but then there is a really tiny text somewhere "a client need to support it". So what exactly do i benefit to buy an expensive mu-mimo router? Nothing?

my cable modem (including router, from isp) crashes sometimes and may slowdown too. It seems to be that it has problem to keep several connections up: nas (ethernet), wifi: android tvbox, laptops, tablets, phones... it's only working on a 2,4 ghz band. so... i was thinking to get a router (ac, both 2,4 and 5 ghz bands), connect it to my cable modem and change the modem to brigde mode. All devices are then connected to the router. (going to be problem with NAS accessing from internet??)
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I'd get them to replace the thing, and you're actually paying good money for that as well, every month. I wouldn't put up with it.

mrex said:
But is it there any point to spend 200-300 euros for a mu-mimo router? i was thinking these two:
tp link archer c2600 (dual band)
asus ac87u (tri band)
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Don't know what "mimo" is, never heard of that. Certainly know TP-Link though, just about every other router I've ever seen is TP-Link, they're usually OK these days. Had some issues with firmware a few years ago on some models, running bittorrent could sometimes make them crash, specifically Mac OS X version of Transmission.
 
mikedt said:
I'd get them to replace the thing, and you're actually paying good money for that as well, every month. I wouldn't put up with it.
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it is free actually. i would ever rent a modem...

Don't know what "mimo" is, never heard of that. Certainly know TP-Link though, just about every other router I've ever seen is TP-Link, they're usually OK these days. Had some issues with firmware a few years ago on some models, running bittorrent could sometimes make them crash, specifically Mac OS X version of Transmission.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-user_MIMO

i think i would definitely benefit from a dual band routers having 2,4 and 5 ghz bands. i could use my ios/osx devices on 5ghz and others using the 2.4 ghz band.

but that mu-mimo is a huge question mark. do they really work or do i need a client to support it. or is it a router specific? aargh...
 
mrex said:
it is free actually. i would ever rent a modem...
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"free" meaning it's included in your subscription package. And it certainly sounds like it's not working properly "my cable modem (including router, from isp) crashes sometimes and may slowdown too." and they supplied it, get your cableco/ISP to replace the thing for one that doesn't crash and slowdown.





mrex said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-user_MIMO

i think i would definitely benefit from a dual band routers having 2,4 and 5 ghz bands. i could use my ios/osx devices on 5ghz and others using the 2.4 ghz band.

but that mu-mimo is a huge question mark. do they really work or do i need a client to support it. or is it a router specific? aargh...
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OK... never heard of it before, and not sure if I've got anything here that does that or not.
 
mikedt said:
"free" meaning it's included in your subscription package. And it certainly sounds like it's not working properly "my cable modem (including router, from isp) crashes sometimes and may slowdown too." and they supplied it, get your cableco/ISP to replace the thing for one that doesn't crash and slowdown.
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well they actually offer it for free in the same price. There is a rent fee but it is discounted away. I could also buy my own, but the internet fee would be the same with or without the modem from isp.

the modem is cicso epc3825 and im not the only one who has problems with it. it is working much better in bridged than in a router mode, but it is also lacking ac, and i was thinking to build a better network at home using a better router than a build-in router in a modem. The speed is 100mb (outside) and wifi is working around 75mb, but it may crash atleast once a day (rebooting) - sometimes often. It seems to be that it cant handle many connection at once - ethernet and wifi.
 
Do you have the latest firmware for your epc3825 ? Because it's supplied by an ISP, it may not be upgradeable by the consumer. Personally I'd go with a discrete modem and get a separate router. I've had nothing but trouble with the all-in-ones.
 
lunatic59 said:
Do you have the latest firmware for your epc3825 ? Because it's supplied by an ISP, it may not be upgradeable by the consumer. Personally I'd go with a discrete modem and get a separate router. I've had nothing but trouble with the all-in-ones.
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yes, the isp shares the updated fw in their network automatically.
 
Slug said:
They work, but the 'end user device', such as a smartphone, laptop etc, has to support MIMO in order to take advantage of it.
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That is what i thought until i saw that there is also routers that doesnt demand the support from the client... Then it is said in mumimo spesification that mumimo works only with devices supporting it. And then i read that e.g. asus has disabled the feature from their routers... So it is quite confusing. Alot of marketing from manufacturers, information and tiny text bottom of the page, and test results speak something else...

Well, however, it seems to be that even if the client doesnt have mumimo, it can benefit mumimo routers. Right??
 
Slug said:
I don't see how, as MIMO requires multiple antennae at both ends of the link. MU-MIMO simply leverages this to enable the AP to communicate simultaneously with several devices.
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So it is just marketing then...
 
Been using ac87u for a month, and ... What a device! Working great, easy to use and fast...
 
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