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Root more space on precedent. worried..

frebsdead

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hello i am new to the forum and to android phones in general. i just purchased a straighttalk precedent two days ago and already find myself in need of more internal space. ive been looking through the forums and noticed AREAROM2.3 but i dont want to mess with my os or anything that could cause damage. if anyone could just help with some info on this all i would greatly appreciate it. thanks!
 
It fills up fast doesn't it. Get yourself an SD Card, then try this:

App2SD

App 2 SD streamlines the movement of applications to on your device's external or internal storage through your device's Settings. With this handy app, you'll have more control over your ever expanding collection of apps. This app is crucial to anyone who has memory management issues.

You shouldn't need root access to move things over to the card.

If you want to try one of the ROM's later on and don't feel too worried partitioning your SD Card, then I recommend this one:

Link2SD

Link2SD is an application that makes it easy for Android 1.6+ users with root privileges on their phone to move applications to the SD card.
 
i currently have every app that it will allow me to move to my sd card already moved to it. but its only leaving me with about 70 mb of internal space. if i could move or remove some of the stock apps like maps and books, etc i would have a ton more space. but they are un-moveable unless i root my phone.


i absolutely love this phone no matter. it handles everything i throw at it including teamviewing either of my pc's and connecting to my vent server!
 
AreaROM 2.3 should install without any problem (it's what I've been using since it was released - one try to install it and it installed). I partitioned the SD card with a 2GB partition, and the ROM uses that as "internal" space.

If you want to save yourself work, use something like Astro (there's a free version) to back up all your apps (to your desktop - your SD card will be wiped). Then when you install the ROM, install APK Installer from the Market, and you can reinstall all the backups. (Astro may also do the reinstall, but I've been using APK Installer for a while, so that's how I did it. The second time I installed a new ROM. I had to download everything all over again the first time.)
 
but they are un-moveable unless i root my phone.

That's the problem with this phone. When stock it runs out of room fast and has a bunch of apps that use a ton of room. Maps and Thinkfree are the two biggest offenders. Moving those two frees up close to 20 meg of space right away. As you've noticed though, they're unmovable unless you have root access to your phone.

Rooting and romming your phone presents it's own set of challenges (not the least of which is creating an insecure operating system), but as most of us have found, you kind of have to do it if you want to get the most out of this phone.
 
Just confirming everyone else's post, im already past this problem since i installed area51's cyanogenmod 7 precedent rom (ext4 class10 sdcard partition). The first thing i did though, root my phone, dl link2sd, and partition sdcard per link2sd instructions. No more internal memory problem. that was when i had a class 4 sdcard. It worked pretty well. When i changed roms (several times) i found that link2sd was no longer neccessary. Its built in to most custom roms. Yet with my class 4 sdcard things were agonizingly slow. I switched to a bigger class 10 sdcard, formatted my sd-ext partition to ext4, and bam. Fast, huge storage, the only other thing i tweaked which seemed to help was changing my read_ahead_kb from my roms default 2048 (stock is 128 i think) to 3072. After much read/write speed tests 3072 gave me the highest average read speed, at least for my card and my phone. Someone elses might be different. So, i think you either have to root or deal with low memory warnings all the time.
 
i still havent rooted my phone or anything yet. however i have a new issue... when i first got the phone it registered the full 383 mb's of ram and about two days ago it stated only registering 282 mb's of ram. is this normal or should i be contacting ST about an rma? and thank you all for being so helpful with the info.
 
That's normal. The phone fills up with application data as you use it. You can clean it out somewhat, but information takes up room. Your contact lists, browser cache, applications themselves.. etc.
 
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