softlikerose
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Motorola DROID Bionic vs. Motorola Atrix 4G Comparison
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Motorola DROID Bionic vs. Motorola Atrix 4G Comparison
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skoalcandy
Newbie
Atrix. The Bionic beats Atrix in some places but the 1gb RAM is really the kicker. I have had the Atrix since launch and I could not imagine having less RAM. I average about 500mb available RAM at start up and goes down to about 250mb by the time I decide to reboot. (with progressive task managing) the 1/2gb in the Bionic will really limit your capabilities with such an advanced phone. Get the most out of the phone you can and go with the Atrix
AdamsHouseCat
Newbie
"All in all,the Bionic is much stronger than the Atrix."
Huh?
Let me see if I can help you.
The screen technologies are idenitcal. The Bionic screen measures 4.3", the Atrix screen measures 4.0". Yes 4.3 is better in that it is bigger. This type of "better" comes with a cost. The Atrix itself is smaller and lighter than the Bionic, and the slightly smaller screen will use a litttle less battery.
The Bionic has a higher pixel count camera. This is meaningful for oversize prints. Do a lot of these?
Both phones have the same amount of disk space and expansion capacity.
The Atrix has twice as much RAM as the Bionic.
Sorry, but your "Bionic is much stronger" assessment simply doesn't fly.
Huh?
Let me see if I can help you.
The screen technologies are idenitcal. The Bionic screen measures 4.3", the Atrix screen measures 4.0". Yes 4.3 is better in that it is bigger. This type of "better" comes with a cost. The Atrix itself is smaller and lighter than the Bionic, and the slightly smaller screen will use a litttle less battery.
The Bionic has a higher pixel count camera. This is meaningful for oversize prints. Do a lot of these?
Both phones have the same amount of disk space and expansion capacity.
The Atrix has twice as much RAM as the Bionic.
Sorry, but your "Bionic is much stronger" assessment simply doesn't fly.
Leeeeeeeeee
Lurker
If anything, I would say that you have it backwards there. As the several people before me already stated, the Atrix has much more RAM than the Bionic has, which will definitely give the Atrix the upper hand performance-wise.
If we were to go into data download/upload rate, the Bionic (using Verizon's LTE network) would currently be the winner as the Atrix is currently "crippled." It's been confirmed by AT&T that the Atrix will receive a software update that will allow it to use AT&T's HSUPA network to achieve better data speeds.
sean76
Android Expert
I'm an Atrix fan, However...at&t is just not my cup of tea! Yes the Atrix has more RAM, but comparing the speed of the networks, even when they turn on H+ is a real joke. VZW's 4G is just insane, and the only way u can know is if you've used it on a device, yes VZW's 4G LTE is that fast! To me the Atrix may win on form factor, because it has a great feel to it, and I prefer the 4 inch screen to the 4.3 inch screen, but that's personal preference and someone may want more real estate. Either way, just the fact that its powered by at&t is a handicap IMO.
And yes I did own the Atrix, data was absolutely horrid on it, which is the reason why I returned it.
And yes I did own the Atrix, data was absolutely horrid on it, which is the reason why I returned it.
Roze
Hiding behind a mystery
@ Sean: HSPA+ is NOT 4G :/ Bad marketing on AT&T with trying to keep up with Verizon/Sprint. They shouldn't be calling it 4G until they have the infrastructure of their LTE network down first. Of course calling HSPA+ 4G sounds much better than 3.5G, which is what it is.
sean76
Android Expert
Yup I agree 100%...terrible marketing on at&t's part...I guess they figured that since T-Mobile was using the 4G name, they should to and not be left in the dust. However I gotta say, Tmo's H+ is pretty quick, my friend has the Galaxy S 4G and its very very quick, maybe not Thunderbolt quick, but faster then anything I've seen on at&t...let's see what happens when at&t actually turns on they're H+...From what I hear they're marketing it, but its hardly even turned on? Such bad marketing...
Actually even LTE was not considered 4G until the ITU reversed itself and declared LTE as 4G, along with HSPA+ and WiMax. Prior to that only LTE-Advanced and WiMax 2 were considered 4G. The ITU is at fault, not AT&T. If the standards body declares it as such, you can't blame AT&T for stating that their technology is 4G.
ITU redefines 4G to include LTE, WiMAX and HSPA+
ITU redefines 4G to include LTE, WiMAX and HSPA+
ebolamonkey3
Android Enthusiast
Biased comparison anyone?
Spec wise Atrix has twice the RAM of the Bionic.
Screen wise both have the same resolution, so while the Bionic has a bigger screen, the Atrix has a higher PPI count.
Form factor wise the Atrix is lighter. I won't say anything about phone size, since that's more of a preference.
Battery wise the Atrix should be a bit better than the Bionic since it has a smaller screen.
Spec wise Atrix has twice the RAM of the Bionic.
Screen wise both have the same resolution, so while the Bionic has a bigger screen, the Atrix has a higher PPI count.
Form factor wise the Atrix is lighter. I won't say anything about phone size, since that's more of a preference.
Battery wise the Atrix should be a bit better than the Bionic since it has a smaller screen.
MarcMaiden
Android Enthusiast
They are both great phones, and the Bionic is definitely tastey looking with the 4.3 inch screen and the higher res camera. not to mention LTE...
HOWEVER
at this point in time, the atrix is still on top. why? because the bionic isnt even out yet, and will not be until the summer. What does that mean? we shouldnt be comparing this to the atrix, we should be comparing this to summer release devices like the LG thrill 4g and the Samsung Galaxy S 2.
besides,
I cant imagine there being a performance difference, and motorola will still lock the bootloader. The only thing that would tick me off is if this comes with gingerbread before the Atrix gets it.
HOWEVER
at this point in time, the atrix is still on top. why? because the bionic isnt even out yet, and will not be until the summer. What does that mean? we shouldnt be comparing this to the atrix, we should be comparing this to summer release devices like the LG thrill 4g and the Samsung Galaxy S 2.
besides,
I cant imagine there being a performance difference, and motorola will still lock the bootloader. The only thing that would tick me off is if this comes with gingerbread before the Atrix gets it.
zerocool79346
Android Expert
A. The Bionic has the better camera
B. I would bet the DDR2 variant RAM in the Bionic will be more enough of a match for the Atrix 1GB that the average Joe would never know it had less.
sean76
Android Expert
That's its man! Vzw is the whole difference! Better network, and real 4G..case closed.
AdamsHouseCat
Newbie
Both manuafctured by Motorlla- Identical RAM but half as much. Will the average Joe notice?
I can make your same argument that the average Joe will not notice the difference in the cameras.
zerocool79346
Android Expert
You're right, my bad, I had heard the Atrix wasn't outfitted with DDR2 RAM like the Bionic is. Still seriously doubt the difference between the two will be enough to be noticeable.
That's a bad analogy. Differences in cameras are easily distinguished no matter who the user is. Case in point, my 59 year old mother who can't do anything but check her email can tell the difference between my Eris' camera and my Inc's, it is far less user dependent.
Outside of people who are power users, the Bionic's RAM will be more than enough, in fact, I doubt power users will even be able to push it to its limits. The main reason the Atrix was outfitted with 1GB was to be able to easily power the laptop dock, not because they believed the phone would be underpowered on its own.
AdamsHouseCat
Newbie
"Differences in cameras are easily distinguished no matter who the user is. Case in point, my 59 year old mother who can't do anything but check her email can tell the difference between my Eris' camera and my Inc's, it is far less user dependent."
Easily distinguished in what way?
Both the Atrix and the Bionic have 540 X 960 diplays which is just over 0.5 megapixels. 0.5184 megapixels to be precise. A 0.5 megapixel camera will present the same (unzoomed) image as a 20 megapixel camera on this display.
Sure, all things being equal, I would prefer 8 megapixels to 5. This would allow a little more pinch to zoom range when reviwing photos, and allow me to make better oversized prints (in the unlikely event that I would ever choose to do so, as I would instead use my 18 megapixel Canon DSLR).
But all things are not equal. At present I couldn't have both. I chose the phone with the greater RAM. At this very moment my Atrix indicates 17,048 kb of 837,640 kb of available RAM as free. I am sure if I only had 500 MB Ram to begin with, Android would have shut some applications down, and as an average Joe, perhaps I wouldn't notice. However, I am not sorry that I have it.
Your point seems to be that the Bionic's camera quality is an important product quality advantage while the RAM difference is of no consequence. I disagree.
This doesn't make me right or you wrong. This is, however, the Atrix forum - not the Bionic forum- and many here have very recently made the same informed decision that I have. I suspect your "Bionic is better" views - just as the poorly supported opinion that started this thread-will be much more warmly received over there.
I am 58 years old, and also do e-mail.
Easily distinguished in what way?
Both the Atrix and the Bionic have 540 X 960 diplays which is just over 0.5 megapixels. 0.5184 megapixels to be precise. A 0.5 megapixel camera will present the same (unzoomed) image as a 20 megapixel camera on this display.
Sure, all things being equal, I would prefer 8 megapixels to 5. This would allow a little more pinch to zoom range when reviwing photos, and allow me to make better oversized prints (in the unlikely event that I would ever choose to do so, as I would instead use my 18 megapixel Canon DSLR).
But all things are not equal. At present I couldn't have both. I chose the phone with the greater RAM. At this very moment my Atrix indicates 17,048 kb of 837,640 kb of available RAM as free. I am sure if I only had 500 MB Ram to begin with, Android would have shut some applications down, and as an average Joe, perhaps I wouldn't notice. However, I am not sorry that I have it.
Your point seems to be that the Bionic's camera quality is an important product quality advantage while the RAM difference is of no consequence. I disagree.
This doesn't make me right or you wrong. This is, however, the Atrix forum - not the Bionic forum- and many here have very recently made the same informed decision that I have. I suspect your "Bionic is better" views - just as the poorly supported opinion that started this thread-will be much more warmly received over there.
I am 58 years old, and also do e-mail.
omnius
Android Enthusiast
well he is getting a little bit better. the OP has a fetish for cutting/pasting posts from www.motorolaatrixforum.com and to be frank, the writers over there don't know what the hell they're talking about. This one isn't as loaded full of wrong info as the first couple I've seen him copy/paste though.
As for the Bionic, I wouldn't switch. Let's get real for a minute about what most people use their phone for. Voice, text, browsing, email, and a little bit of time-killing occasionally with a teeny little android game or movie. Does anyone other than a benchmark test really notice the milliseconds of difference between HSPA+ and LTE while surfing websites? I know I don't. I'm 100% sure I notice how my games and videos load like a champ with zero lag or chop and how great they look. I also notice how much convenience I'm getting out of the various docks and the HDMI - out Moto made for this phone. (not sure how this writer figured it made sense to talk about how nice the display was while discussing LTE
)Now let's look at it from a carrier standpoint. I know from my own experience that I can do common data related activities (browsing, email etc) quite fast on HSPA+. What percentage of smartphone users do serious file downloading on a handset when you have a hard line broadband connection at home? Raise your hands please. Ok you over there with the blank look on your face, now give your head a shake
Seriously what on earth did you people do when everyone was only on 3G
. I'd rather have the docks, HDMI out, larger RAM and longer battery potential. Form factor? If I wanted a phone that flirted with being a tab I'd buy one of those 1990's car phones that had the cable attached or hold a brick next to my head.well he is getting a little bit better. the OP has a fetish for cutting/pasting posts from www.motorolaatrixforum.com and to be frank, the writers over there don't know what the hell they're talking about. This one isn't as loaded full of wrong info as the first couple I've seen him copy/paste though.
As for the Bionic, I wouldn't switch. Let's get real for a minute about what most people use their phone for. Voice, text, browsing, email, and a little bit of time-killing occasionally with a teeny little android game or movie. Does anyone other than a benchmark test really notice the milliseconds of difference between HSPA+ and LTE while surfing websites? I know I don't. I'm 100% sure I notice how my games and videos load like a champ with zero lag or chop and how great they look. I also notice how much convenience I'm getting out of the various docks and the HDMI - out Moto made for this phone. (not sure how this writer figured it made sense to talk about how nice the display was while discussing LTE
Now let's look at it from a carrier standpoint. I know from my own experience that I can do common data related activities (browsing, email etc) quite fast on HSPA+. What percentage of smartphone users do serious file downloading on a handset when you have a hard line broadband connection at home? Raise your hands please. Ok you over there with the blank look on your face, now give your head a shake
Seriously what on earth did you people do when everyone was only on 3G
actually independent tests show LTE is much more faster than any carriers 4G. Whether youre opening a website, downloading a docx, doesnt matter. It will be MUCH faster, if the file is big enough it will be more than milliseconds. The fact is that these phones are much more capable than your old android or BB. I wouldnt dare to download a video, music, or any other large file when I wasnt home. Comparisons try to be as objective as possible, your doing no different than the OP
omnius
Android Enthusiast
Apparently I need to be obvious, so I'll keep it simple. The independent tech sites I've been researching differ from yours. The comparison to the OP is invalid but ty for your contribution
Divinedark
Member
I don't need tech sites to tell me about the networks in my area. I live in Atlanta Georgia and my best friend carries a Thunderbolt. We ran 10 concurrent speed tests on my Atrix, my Inspire, and his Thunderbolt on V LTE. LTE in Atlanta is pulling ~6mb down and 2mb up. AT&T HSPA+ is pulling 4.5-5.0mb down and 2.2mb up (HSUPA unlocked Inspire). On paper LTE has a higher downlink speed of 17mb/s, and HSPA+ has a theoretical maximum of 14.4mb/s. This is on a completely unsaturated network. Either Verizon is crippling their 4G network in one of the top 4 most important markets in the country, or the difference between AT&T's 3.5G network and Verizon's 4G network isn't this massive gap you're making it out to be.
Again, reference any tech site you want. I've actually used the devices side by side over the last three weeks. It's possible that Verizon has either over saturated their network here, or hasn't built out their network enough, which I find it hard to believe considering this was one of the first cities to go up on LTE.
jsntrenkler
Newbie
Both are great devices.
omnius
Android Enthusiast
Those numbers reinforce what I've seen quoted thanks for doing that