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Nexus Vs Razr
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cereal killer
Android Expert
SGSII is a solid device. Charge is another great handset. Sorry to disappoint but I'm not loyal to any one manufacturer.So because it isn't metal and doesn't have kevlar or something like that it isn't premium? Honestly I have had moto and samsung phones in the past and moto had good build quality, but I had more issues with them and their build quality than I did with samsungs. It's ok angelface we know how much you love moto
You got mad at me for voicing my displeasure with Moto and the Bionic now I'm a Moto lover? Good stuff
cereal killer
Android Expert
Lets just move on redraider. No use dragging down a good thread. We all have our opinions and while we may disagree we should respect one another.......
It is titled nexus vs razr so it isn't being brought down angelface. Just expressing our different views on the 2 devices.
Martimus
One bite at a time...
OK... enough with the jabs! If there is issue here settle it via PM, via email, or settle it somewhere other than Android Forums. OK? And there will be no name calling in this or any other thread. If someone uses a different member name on a different forum that has no relevance here at Android Forums!
cereal killer
Android Expert
Thanks Martimus. Btw i dont go around any other forums under different names trolling. Not my style and its stupidity.
Since I more or less started the battery bru-ha-ha, here's the quote from Steven I referenced (in case you missed it in the 200 gajillion posts in the Gnex thread):
I took that as it need to be fixed, since cleary the old value was not "good enough". Again, companies don't fix that which is not broken this late in the game.
That aside, one thing we all should remember:
"Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!" - YouTube
This is a versus thread. What a shock it got testy. But please, keep it going--the civil part I mean.
That mystery spec tweak last week? 1850 mAh battery. Don't ask me how I know, but I do.
OP Updated with new battery spec here.
I took that as it need to be fixed, since cleary the old value was not "good enough". Again, companies don't fix that which is not broken this late in the game.
Can you point to those reviews? I'd be very interested in any data on either phone's battery performance and under what conditions the testing occured.redraider1 said:
That aside, one thing we all should remember:
"Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!" - YouTube
This is a versus thread. What a shock it got testy. But please, keep it going--the civil part I mean.
sean76
Android Expert
Lol....I gotta say the jabbing between
Red and Cereal is Entertaining!
Angelface...hahahaha!!! Classic...
Ok enough of that and my laughing, seriously, yes we should always keep it clean! For the most part, the mods in here let us all voice our opinion and get our points across.
IMO...The argument is worthless at this point, we all said what we had to say, we all have our opinions on which phone, or which manufacturer is better ....
However, none of us have held or used either device. So how can one really be better then the other. The only thing we have to go on is a few videos and a few write ups, nothing more.
Only person in our realm who handled the GNex and ICS was Rob Jackson ...and he said a few times that he's excited about the phone and what it brings...case closed.
As for the rest of us, the argument is getting old...Both will be killer devices, both will appeal to huge markets. And everything that we thought we knew, may be changed when we get to using either model.
Now remember guys...I'm a huge phone whore...Lmaooo! I follow nobody, I fight for no flag...If I like your phone and the way it handles Android...I'm buying it. Whether it be HTC, Samsung, Moto...etc!
If your bringing the heat, I'm bringing my Amex card...simple as that!
I will be buying both of these bad boys, and which ever one WOW's me...That's the one i'm keeping, the other will be returned and forgotten about...
Just my 2 cents ; )
Red and Cereal is Entertaining!
Angelface...hahahaha!!! Classic...
Ok enough of that and my laughing, seriously, yes we should always keep it clean! For the most part, the mods in here let us all voice our opinion and get our points across.
IMO...The argument is worthless at this point, we all said what we had to say, we all have our opinions on which phone, or which manufacturer is better ....
However, none of us have held or used either device. So how can one really be better then the other. The only thing we have to go on is a few videos and a few write ups, nothing more.
Only person in our realm who handled the GNex and ICS was Rob Jackson ...and he said a few times that he's excited about the phone and what it brings...case closed.
As for the rest of us, the argument is getting old...Both will be killer devices, both will appeal to huge markets. And everything that we thought we knew, may be changed when we get to using either model.
Now remember guys...I'm a huge phone whore...Lmaooo! I follow nobody, I fight for no flag...If I like your phone and the way it handles Android...I'm buying it. Whether it be HTC, Samsung, Moto...etc!
If your bringing the heat, I'm bringing my Amex card...simple as that!
I will be buying both of these bad boys, and which ever one WOW's me...That's the one i'm keeping, the other will be returned and forgotten about...
Just my 2 cents ; )
Sandroidfan
Android Expert
That's usually the way he breaks out news from his source. I wouldn't take that expression literally as you did. It's entirely up to you whether to believe it or not. He said 1850mAh but it's not official until it's official. It may be even bigger like 1900, 2000 and we don't know yet.
Thing is most of us came to know that LTE version would carry bigger battery than GSM version since Google/Samsung announced Nexus at HK. I think someone from Google or Samsung said that. But its size is still unknown officially and we only know it will be bigger than 1750mAh. So I don't think this is last minute change and need to see official info on its size.
burntorangefan
Android Enthusiast
@redraider1...Angelface? That grinning baby is no angel, fo sho! Take a chill pill homes and go watch the football game...or maybe that's why you're really pissed! lol.......
Except once again it has nothing to do with the name cereal killer.
burntorangefan
Android Enthusiast
Except once again it has nothing to do with the name cereal killer.
I get that. Just chill, my friend. CK has been around the android scene for quite some time. Some feel his nature is to troll, but IMO (and I've been around a while too, though not as a prolific poster), that couldn't be further from the truth. Let's all agree to get along...we're all going to get great phones before Christmas. Merry Christmas to us all...
WalmartSecurity
Android Enthusiast
With the newest wave of Android phones, either both of these phones will "wow!" you or neither of them will.
Both will make calls on America's greatest network. Both have smooth and responsive web browsing on unnecessarily fast LTE connections. Both have admirable processing power--enough to multitask with minimal stutter. Neither of them have an innovation that is groundbreaking. For me, it really came down to two things
1. Physical looks
RAZR: "blocky" look. Premium materials. Thin and sleek.
Nexus: curved, rounded look. reinforced plastic.
For me, I prefer the GN. I really like the curved design, and coming form a DX I think I'm a bit bored of the Moto designs. The plastic isn't that much of a deal to me--I'll have my phone in some plastic or synthetic case either way--no amount of kevlar will assure me that it's safe from drops. Honestly, most negative reviews complain about the plasticky feel. Both phones will have dents/scratches if you drop it. Just because the Nexus is made of plastic doesn't necessarily means its not as durable--it just means it has that cheaper feel, which some people don't like.
2. Software
RAZR: BLUR, smart actions, Motocast, etc
Nexus: ICS
Coming from a DX, I will say that I absolutely hated their older versions of BLUR, mostly because it was slow.
But with the newer D3, Bionic, etc, the launchers are much smoother. Some of the widgets are super slick (quick contacts) and BLUR reminds me of that modern blocky/tile feel that you get with Windows phones. Smart actions is like a steroids version of their battery manager, but it isn't anything that hasn't been done before.
With ICS, you get a blank canvas. If you look at any youtube review, you'll see that the stock screens from the launcher are all disoriented--clocks here, widgets there, etc--whereas on the Moto demonstrations everything's organized and looks very appealing, with social widgets on one screen, media widgets on another, etc.
Having used a DX though, I've found that the "features" I loved that Moto or HTC offered exclusively (Sense widgets, quick contacts, etc) could be replicated in function by 3rd party apps (and most of the time, in aesthetics too!). Eventually, I found myself dying for CM7, because I just wanted raw speed. All of the extras that BLUR offered I either didn't need, or could find something else to replace it.
For me, BLUR/Sense/TW wants to dictate how I use the phone, but I'd rather spend the time customizing my phone so that it fits my needs. The whole freedom of Android is that all the APIs available to Motorola, Samsung, LG, etc, are available to everyone. Things like "smart actions" aren't really appealing to me, because apps like JuiceDefender can emulate its functionality (and in theory, I could make a similar app).
This is why I'm ultimately going to get a Nexus. I found myself spending more time customizing my Moto phone to look and run like stock android than being satisfied with what BLUR offered me.
Plus, the new APIs from 4.0 will allow for things like creating calendar events by voice, transferring data with NFC, etc. They're not groundbreaking by any means, but they have the potential to be very convenient for my everyday needs. I know that the RAZR will get ICS soon, but when I desperately waited for GB on my DX the BLUR'd version didn't live up to my expectations.
Most people don't really care about the things that factored into my decision. If you take the time to thing about how you want to use your phone, what you want it to look like, how much time you're willing to spend customizing it, then I think you'll have a much easier time choosing a phone than if somebody else shoved specs and their own user experiences down your throat.
Both are awesome phones, but for the way I play with Android, there's no doubt as to which I'm going to get.
Both will make calls on America's greatest network. Both have smooth and responsive web browsing on unnecessarily fast LTE connections. Both have admirable processing power--enough to multitask with minimal stutter. Neither of them have an innovation that is groundbreaking. For me, it really came down to two things
1. Physical looks
RAZR: "blocky" look. Premium materials. Thin and sleek.
Nexus: curved, rounded look. reinforced plastic.
For me, I prefer the GN. I really like the curved design, and coming form a DX I think I'm a bit bored of the Moto designs. The plastic isn't that much of a deal to me--I'll have my phone in some plastic or synthetic case either way--no amount of kevlar will assure me that it's safe from drops. Honestly, most negative reviews complain about the plasticky feel. Both phones will have dents/scratches if you drop it. Just because the Nexus is made of plastic doesn't necessarily means its not as durable--it just means it has that cheaper feel, which some people don't like.
2. Software
RAZR: BLUR, smart actions, Motocast, etc
Nexus: ICS
Coming from a DX, I will say that I absolutely hated their older versions of BLUR, mostly because it was slow.
But with the newer D3, Bionic, etc, the launchers are much smoother. Some of the widgets are super slick (quick contacts) and BLUR reminds me of that modern blocky/tile feel that you get with Windows phones. Smart actions is like a steroids version of their battery manager, but it isn't anything that hasn't been done before.
With ICS, you get a blank canvas. If you look at any youtube review, you'll see that the stock screens from the launcher are all disoriented--clocks here, widgets there, etc--whereas on the Moto demonstrations everything's organized and looks very appealing, with social widgets on one screen, media widgets on another, etc.
Having used a DX though, I've found that the "features" I loved that Moto or HTC offered exclusively (Sense widgets, quick contacts, etc) could be replicated in function by 3rd party apps (and most of the time, in aesthetics too!). Eventually, I found myself dying for CM7, because I just wanted raw speed. All of the extras that BLUR offered I either didn't need, or could find something else to replace it.
For me, BLUR/Sense/TW wants to dictate how I use the phone, but I'd rather spend the time customizing my phone so that it fits my needs. The whole freedom of Android is that all the APIs available to Motorola, Samsung, LG, etc, are available to everyone. Things like "smart actions" aren't really appealing to me, because apps like JuiceDefender can emulate its functionality (and in theory, I could make a similar app).
This is why I'm ultimately going to get a Nexus. I found myself spending more time customizing my Moto phone to look and run like stock android than being satisfied with what BLUR offered me.
Plus, the new APIs from 4.0 will allow for things like creating calendar events by voice, transferring data with NFC, etc. They're not groundbreaking by any means, but they have the potential to be very convenient for my everyday needs. I know that the RAZR will get ICS soon, but when I desperately waited for GB on my DX the BLUR'd version didn't live up to my expectations.
Most people don't really care about the things that factored into my decision. If you take the time to thing about how you want to use your phone, what you want it to look like, how much time you're willing to spend customizing it, then I think you'll have a much easier time choosing a phone than if somebody else shoved specs and their own user experiences down your throat.
Both are awesome phones, but for the way I play with Android, there's no doubt as to which I'm going to get.
Sandroidfan
Android Expert
I pretty much have the same thoughts as you on these phones. I'm also going with GNex. But if it disappoints me in any major way like battery, 4G reception, etc I will probably switch to Razr unless it also has some major issue as well. HTC is absolutely out of my consideration because I am not fan of Sense and Qualcomm processor. I think most of HTC issues like battery, low speed stems from Sense resource hog. TW and Blur seem much better optimized.
Galaxy Nexus Training materials and comparison charts arriving at Verizon Stores | 9to5Google | Beyond Good and Evil
Says it will have an exclusive version of sense? Maybe that will help with battery hog issues?
FragDroidX
Android Expert
I believe it is saying the Rezound is an exclusive.
No read it, it says exclusive version of sense UI look on the chart.
FragDroidX
Android Expert
I wonder what would be exclusive about it. Isnt Sense 3.5 already on some HTC devices?
FragDroidX
Android Expert
Also the chart only shows the 32 Gig version of the Nexus. I hope that doesnt mean its going to be more than $299.
Who knows? The map pricing showed 299 for nexus so im sure it wont be more than that.