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Now That iOS7 Has Been Unveiled....

Apple has master the art or persuassion . We all know every OEM take a little from each other. Apple has a way of delivering their message and make many feel it's something special when in reality it's nothing different than what someone else provide for you years ago.
 
Care to elaborate? I have seen more than a few android POS devices. Relax . . . you can like Apple and Android. But never blackberry, no sir! Those are just terrible I say. :)

so true.. but there are many good ones to MEET MOST ANYONE'S NEEDS. if you don't like one.. try the others.

with apple's iphone.. if you don't like it.. for whatever reason.
maybe the black one will be better?
if that did not fix it...then you are holding it wrong.
 
Not so sure Android is completely blameless when it comes from borrowing ideas. Not much new under the sun and every company "steals" a good idea or two.


For the last 2 years or so, most official Android 'borrowed ideas' comes from their own development community. The Android open-source mentality is really pushing them ahead; many private developers ideas are incorporated into official Android releases.

The only bag I have with Apple are the lawsuits. They sue the pants off anyone with similarity to Apple products yet Apple 'borrows' almost everything in some fashion. If there was no hypocrisy I would have 0 issue with Apple, they make good products.

Why Apple can't be forgiven for iOS 7 - - MSN Money


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Oh come on! BlackBerry? That sinking ship? No thanks. Aside the work enforced Curve 8520 I must put up with Monday through Friday, it's just a dumb phone pretending to be a smartphone. The OS is a glorified port of Java which runs on feature phones of the 1990s. While the Z10 shows promise, I fear RIM is dead and buried already so I wouldn't waste my dollars on anything they make. Windows phone for the same reason, and their serious lack of apps.
 
It's interesting, but for me to jump ship from my S3 I want the hardware & software to be interesting. The iPhone 5/5S doesn't do it for me and iOS 7 will have some really annoying bug in it and maybe it will suck compared to iOS 5 (last one I used) So iPhone 6/iOS 8 will be the litmus test for me.

I love the Nokia 920 and Windows mobile is interesting. But I hate AT&T and am with Verizon. The 928 is kind of bland.

But to be honest, a new phone release doesn't have the same WOW factor it used to have- like with the early iPhones, the G1, Droid, Nexus, the early HTC phones, etc. Back then, I would go out and pay extra to get the newer phone. Now I feel like the next phone is slightly faster, bigger, with a better resolution screen and the OS has some features that really aren't necessary that aren't interesting to me. Remember when you used Google maps for the first time? With GPS? That was, and still is seriously amazing and useful. Smart scroll? Not so much. Surfing the web, open table, etc. All really useful things. Flat design? Another Android skin?

Ehh... I'll wait for my 2yr upgrade. I am perfectly content with my S3.
 
Usually once I'm happy I end up right back on the "I hate change" wagon. But there's so many interesting Android devices out there! BlackBerry is fine if you are nostalgic for 1990s tech, or don't mind a system likely to be out of Dev support in the near future, it certainly is secure, and Apple is fine for those who don't need to customize their phone and just want basic, reliable apps, and games which have yet to be ported to Android yet (Infinite Flight, anyone? apache SIM?)
 
Check out the upcomming Macs .. they have a design that is quite unlike anything that came before it. But that is not what we are talking about here

Quite. That's just Apple doing what they do well: putting existing components in a pretty box. They may have addressed some engineering issues (cooling?), but unless I've missed something, there's no real innovation there.

really wish Android could start to catch up on .. delivery of updates

Yup. Unfortunately, there's a trade off there: if you want lots of choice in your droids, you have to accept a degree of fragmentation and consequently, variations in update frequency.

Android does provide an option, though: the Nexus line.

I love the Nokia 920 and Windows mobile is interesting

Apparently, Nokia are bringing the no-one-else-comes-anywhere-close camera tech from the PureView to their Windows range - now that could be really interesting :D

If only it didn't run windows ;)

But to be honest, a new phone release doesn't have the same WOW factor it used to have

That's true. Phones do things better and better (and bigger and bigger in the case of screens), but I can't think of a single feature current smarphones have that the previous generation of smartphones (i.e. those before the original iPhone) didn't also have. Even touch was out there. And the form factor. Sure, the Symbians etc were a total PITA to use, but everything was there ..

Even my old N80 could do things like turn-by-turn navigation (though it needed an external GPS).
 
That's true. Phones do things better and better (and bigger and bigger in the case of screens), but I can't think of a single feature current smarphones have that the previous generation of smartphones (i.e. those before the original iPhone) didn't also have. Even touch was out there. And the form factor. Sure, the Symbians etc were a total PITA to use, but everything was there ..

Even my old N80 could do things like turn-by-turn navigation (though it needed an external GPS).

Front-facing cameras and videochat - give a client a virtual walking tour of my facilities - highly effective.

Don't recall anyone with that prior to the Evo in June 2010.

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Streaming media - that one will depend on which services were available before the iPhone and Android.

Don't recall seeing that on the Nokia Linux or Winmo phones.

Never saw anything of the sort on a ported Symbian app but I surely didn't see all there was to see.

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All of the modern features _working_ for basically everyone without needing mad tech skills to use - that's what Apple and Google have brought to the table, imo.

I think that's the biggest feature of all.
 
Apple Sues Google For Stealing Stuff It Just Invented

this is probably best here....but please move if it shouldn't be!

If they keep up with their "Hey Samsung/Google/HTC/otherandroidrelatedcompanies, we're gonna copy some of your guys' stuff, but later sue you for them" gameplan, I'm never going to willingly fork over a penny for them.
I'm glad their iOS isn't as plain and boring now, but I foresee many lawsuits coming from Apple.


My point proven :rolleyes:
 
Yeah... I got it literally 5 minutes after I posted.
I hoped no one would comment on my mess up...

:banghead: :o
 
Not a chance.
Notice how all the recent iphone commercials show absolutely nothing about the phones abilities or new features.
Ios is copying android, well they are trying too, but in the end it's still inferior to the top tier android devices concerning hardware and software. ios7 is the basically the same as previous versions with a facelift and a few new minor capabilities that android has been able to do for quite some time.
 
I hope the iPhone users enjoy the new OS, I really do. Everyone deserves to enjoy their smartphone experience regardless of choice.

If apple doesn't sue the pants off of everyone, we all win.

Like I said before this breeds competition, which leads to innovation on both sides. We win hand over fist. :)
 
Not a chance.
Notice how all the recent iphone commercials show absolutely nothing about the phones abilities or new features.
Ios is copying android, well they are trying too, but in the end it's still inferior to the top tier android devices concerning hardware and software. ios7 is the basically the same as previous versions with a facelift and a few new minor capabilities that android has been able to do for quite some time.

Wow hang on a minute, you mean the ear buds they were advertising isn't an iPhone feature!

I always laughed at that advert for the exact reason you mentioned...it has nowt to do with the actual phone!
 
well, somehow someway the ads must work as where i live people buy more iPhone 5's than any Android, and BlackBerry is pretty much non-existant except for the few older folks who only get a Torch for it being more feature phone than Smartphone. the few Android phones, mostly higher end like Nexus and Galaxy Notes are often in the hands of teens or tweens who normally Facebook. iOS devices are easy to spot just from the themed Otterbox cases they are fond of using
 
I run both an iPhone and an HTC One. My tablet is an iPad and my PCs are Windows and Linux based. I'm all over the place and have not invested heavily in one OS over another. My iPhone and iPad are jailbroken so I will wait for a jailbreak for IOS7 to come out before I update.

Personally, I go with whatever device fits my needs at the time. I've had a bad experience with Android before (but my current HTC One is working flawlessly) but i've never had a bad experience with any iPhone. I dislike the fact that it is locked down so much but then that probably enhances the reliability of the device.

At the end of the day, I want 4.2.2 and Sense 5.1 for my HTC and a jailbroken IOS7 for my iPad/iPhone.
 
Since Google has finally gotten an ecosystem similar but many times better than Apple I got my iDevices shelved. Most of my tablets are pretty high end Androids so they never have problems. My phone is older and cheap since where I work tends to break them so I learn to live with the usual glitch or random reboot. If it gets too bad I have a BlackBerry for backup. Don't laugh for what the archaic device lacks it does do what it was intended to do and does it well.

And I just noticed that Google Play prepaid cards have finally come out! Yay!
 
If they keep up with their "Hey Samsung/Google/HTC/otherandroidrelatedcompanies, we're gonna copy some of your guys' stuff, but later sue you for them" gameplan, I'm never going to willingly fork over a penny for them.
I'm glad their iOS isn't as plain and boring now, but I foresee many lawsuits coming from Apple.

I don't think I would avoid buying an Apple product in protest like that. If Apple made a device that suited my needs more than any other device available on the market, I'd probably get the Apple device. However, so far I have only bought an iPod for my wife a number of years ago. All of the phones I have bought are non-Apple phones.
 
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