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Ageless Stranger said:
There is a new release of KDE coming out very soon which blows Gnome and the current KDE way out of the water.
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Yeah, I heard about that in think the official release is in like a month and half from now or something.... but from what I can tell it isn't all that different aside from the desk top and not using firefox... I guess a better question would be what are the advantages/disadvantages of one vs the other.....
 
Aside from personal preferences of installed software, I don't think there are any advantages or disadvantages over either. They are both based on Debian (which I used to have installed), use the same kernel and have access to the same software packages. You can install Kubuntu and on top of that install everything from Ubuntu that you dont have and vice versa.

I end up uninstalling a bunch of things I dont like, install a bunch I havent got installed and end up with something perfect for me. I always back up the downloaded packages from /var/cache/apt/archives in case something goes wrong (and it hasnt yet)

Im using 8.10 and so far I havent had a single issue with anything, then again I have been using Linux for 12 years so I guess any minor trivial issues go unnoticed and become part of routine install/maintenance.

Everything is so nice and simple now, I remember having to compile kernels, compile KDE and gnome by hand, find and compile the correct drivers. Linux has come a heck of a long way in the past few years.
 
Ageless Stranger said:
Aside from personal preferences of installed software, I don't think there are any advantages or disadvantages over either. They are both based on Debian (which I used to have installed), use the same kernel and have access to the same software packages. You can install Kubuntu and on top of that install everything from Ubuntu that you dont have and vice versa.

I end up uninstalling a bunch of things I dont like, install a bunch I havent got installed and end up with something perfect for me. I always back up the downloaded packages from /var/cache/apt/archives in case something goes wrong (and it hasnt yet)

Im using 8.10 and so far I havent had a single issue with anything, then again I have been using Linux for 12 years so I guess any minor trivial issues go unnoticed and become part of routine install/maintenance.

Everything is so nice and simple now, I remember having to compile kernels, compile KDE and gnome by hand, find and compile the correct drivers. Linux has come a heck of a long way in the past few years.
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That's what I thought they both use the same backbone but different desktops so... I'll stick with what I've got only been a Linux users for a few months so.... and I agree the last time I even thought about linux it was so far off I never even considered the install and now I am a convert so..... think it'll only get better since it appears that not only is it a real contender for pc OS(much more efficient) but looks to be the wave of the future for mobile OS....
 
If you have any problems, questions just give me a shout and if Im around in time I will do my best to help.

I wonder if there should be an operating system sub forum, considering Android sits on top of Linux and even runs debian now.
 
Loved the ending, can't believe I gave those guys 5 years of my life. The pay was good, thats all I can say was good.

I take it you have heard of crossover office and WineX ? They are both built on WINE, but crossover allows more native windows apps to run on Linux, and WineX allows DirectX games to run on linux ;) check them out if you havent already, downside is they are not free :(
 
Ageless Stranger said:
Loved the ending, can't believe I gave those guys 5 years of my life. The pay was good, thats all I can say was good.

I take it you have heard of crossover office and WineX ? They are both built on WINE, but crossover allows more native windows apps to run on Linux, and WineX allows DirectX games to run on linux ;) check them out if you havent already, downside is they are not free :(
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Yeah actually just got Wine running the way I want... that was really the last barrier for complete switch... needed to make sure all my games or at least the ones I use ran right.... it took a while because evreything needs tweaking like getting hotmail in thunderbird but took almost two months but I think I have a decent handle on it now...
 
noonehereyet said:
I'm sure you know this but winex is called cedega now.....
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Thats the one, I clean forgot about the name change. Thanks :o

Development on Linux is just as nice now as on Windows, KDevelop, and Anjuta (for gnome) are nice clean interfaces and of course we have Eclipse for the Android development which I'm about to get my teeth in to, but Im a c/c++ fan at heart. If I could write native code for the G1 I will be more than happy doing something flashy in c++
 
Ageless Stranger said:
Thats the one, I clean forgot about the name change. Thanks :o

Development on Linux is just as nice now as on Windows, KDevelop, and Anjuta (for gnome) are nice clean interfaces and of course we have Eclipse for the Android development which I'm about to get my teeth in to, but Im a c/c++ fan at heart. If I could write native code for the G1 I will be more than happy doing something flashy in c++
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Yeah I haven't really done to much in the way of real programing in about 8 years or so.... WAY out of the loop so to speak but I mess with things from time to time just to see what's possible.... Eclipse was one of the first things I installed....
 
I'm considering porting the CCTV suite I wrote at work to Linux, and have a client application on the G1 (and will have to support iPhone too). The android side will be easy, the infrastructure is already there, RTSP, H264, Audio. Just need a fancy UI to sell the idea to them.
 
Ageless Stranger said:
I'm considering porting the CCTV suite I wrote at work to Linux, and have a client application on the G1 (and will have to support iPhone too). The android side will be easy, the infrastructure is already there, RTSP, H264, Audio. Just need a fancy UI to sell the idea to them.
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If you write it I'll test it.... one more question but have you ever used Ubuntu Tweak.... if so any ideas on how to get something like that on the G1?

http://ubuntu-tweak.com/2008/12/15/ubuntu-tweak-044-released.html
 
I personally love Ubuntu to death, and the new 8.10 automatically recognized all of my drivers "out-of-the-box" without me having to break into the command line and do some tinkering like other Linux OSs had. Ubuntu runs great on my Desktop and Laptop computers, and I have yet to have any problems with performance yet!

Now, when you set up things such as Compiz-Fusion, you can really start booking with stunning visual effects. ( I personally like the flame that engulfs the window when I close it :P )

Also, I even got my school to stop using Windows 2000 and to instead switch to Edubuntu and Ubuntu Server for everything :P
( My school IT was happy to find that Ubuntu ran Firefox and Flash )
 
Mason said:
I personally love Ubuntu to death, and the new 8.10 automatically recognized all of my drivers "out-of-the-box" without me having to break into the command line and do some tinkering like other Linux OSs had. Ubuntu runs great on my Desktop and Laptop computers, and I have yet to have any problems with performance yet!

Now, when you set up things such as Compiz-Fusion, you can really start booking with stunning visual effects. ( I personally like the flame that engulfs the window when I close it :P )

Also, I even got my school to stop using Windows 2000 and to instead switch to Edubuntu and Ubuntu Server for everything :P
( My school IT was happy to find that Ubuntu ran Firefox and Flash )
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I agree I am running 8.10 now had some issues with the install when I was dual booting ended up on 8.04 until I went back to single boot with 8.10 but other than having to set up the wireless network everything worked from the install... Compiz is awsome great effects but I just like how stable it is and once you get the basics just a much smoother system than windows by far....
 
Swizz said:
How is 8.10 running for you guys? I used it for a while and loved some of the things they fixed from 8.04 but went back because of overall stability, and they really jacked up Samba configuration. Anyone running some high end programs in wine? Like WoW, or GTA? Wine 1.1.13 and .12 have some serious crash issues with WoW, and I had to drop back down to 1.1.10 because of it.
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I've had no real issues with 8.10 although I did have network issues and a couple other little things with it when I was dual booting found 8.04 worked better... but since I have gone back to single boot only now only booting 8.10 it's worked great... as far as wine no real issues although I haven't used the software you've listed so can't say and I've only been using Ubuntu for two months so in time I'm sure I 'll cross similar issues as you... also you might want to try this if your having gaming issues: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
 
Hi everyone, i have really been enjoying reading this thread and because of it i have switched my desktop computer to run OpenSuse purely because it looked better than Ubuntu.

Does anyone know the main differences between the 2 as i may well switch to Ubuntu if everyone agrees that it is the better one.
:)
 
Well Ubuntu is really a branch of Debian which in my opinion is the most stable of the Linux operating systems (dont think desktop environments here), they generally push out security fixes and updates more often than other distributions due to the heavy user base Debian enjoys.

Ubuntu, like Debian has a heavy following with a great forum of supporters offering aid (like most distributions). One difference that is noticable between Suse (add any other distro here you want really) and Ubuntu is that you can opt to have either

I like Ubuntu (Debians) for their package management which I feel is better than any of the other variants offered by other distros (and I have used most of the big distros over the last 12 years).

I used SuSe for about a month before giving up, I cant stand RPM package management it employs (Red Hats) and I didnt like their choice of software. Ubuntu has a very limit set of software upon default install, but small is good and maintainable and you can always install whatever you like post install.

At the end of the day, 12 years Linux experience has taught me go with Debian (Ubuntu, Kubuntu or any other Ubuntu variant).
 
Ageless Stranger said:
Well Ubuntu is really a branch of Debian which in my opinion is the most stable of the Linux operating systems (dont think desktop environments here), they generally push out security fixes and updates more often than other distributions due to the heavy user base Debian enjoys.

Ubuntu, like Debian has a heavy following with a great forum of supporters offering aid (like most distributions). One difference that is noticable between Suse (add any other distro here you want really) and Ubuntu is that you can opt to have either

I like Ubuntu (Debians) for their package management which I feel is better than any of the other variants offered by other distros (and I have used most of the big distros over the last 12 years).

I used SuSe for about a month before giving up, I cant stand RPM package management it employs (Red Hats) and I didnt like their choice of software. Ubuntu has a very limit set of software upon default install, but small is good and maintainable and you can always install whatever you like post install.

At the end of the day, 12 years Linux experience has taught me go with Debian (Ubuntu, Kubuntu or any other Ubuntu variant).
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Thanks for answering Ageless Stranger, if Ubuntu is based on Debian why not just use that instead?
 
The difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?

I have said this before, but I dont mind repeating myself. The difference lies in the desktop environments. Ubuntu uses Gnome and Kubuntu uses KDE for their desktops.

Essentially this is the main difference (the other differences are the software written specifically for the chosen desktops), and is really a matter of personal preference and choice. Although if you install Ubuntu, you can always install KDE later and launch it from the login screen, and vice versa if you opt for Kubuntu you can install gnome.
 
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