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Quit smoking with Electronic Cigarettes??

Try Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking. His method has a higher success rate than Zyban, nicotine replacements like the patch, nicorette, e-cigs etc, cold turkey, laser, and hypno therapy.

I know about a dozen people personally who stopped using his book, and only one person who hasn't. The only failures from his method that I've seen are the ones who stop but then get complacent after a couple of months and start again on their own volition but that can happen regardless of the method used.

It will really surprise you how he does it. It goes against pretty much all of the methods people traditionally use to quit and it's very effective. I was so strongly convinced by the time I was halfway through his book I was actually chafing at the bit to quit, and I was a pack a day smoker for 25 years. I didn't believe a book could be so effective but it was.
 
pantlesspenguin said:
I guess it's all how you define "quit." I'm defining it as quitting smoking regular cigarettes. When you use an e-cig, yes the ACT of smoking is still there, but e-cigs do not produce actual smoke. There is no combustion. The battery heats an atomizer which heats the liquid which produces vapor that you breathe in. For me, I have successfully cut down on he amount of "real" cigarettes I smoke. Additionally, I've been able to lower the amount of nicotine I put In the e-cig.

Do I want to totally quit the e-cig now that I've pretty much quit smoking real cigs? No. I still enjoy the e-cig. But I can sure tell a difference in my health since I've started using the e-cig the majority of the time.
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I define the word 'quit,' the same way Merriam defines the word.

It seems to me the only reason for the e-cig is to allow "smoking" where it is not currently allowed. There is no smoke, but there is nicotine. Not sure if the health benefits attributed to the device are accurate, though.
 
Bob Maxey said:
I define the word 'quit,' the same way Merriam defines the word.

It seems to me the only reason for the e-cig is to allow "smoking" where it is not currently allowed. There is no smoke, but there is nicotine. Not sure if the health benefits attributed to the device are accurate, though.
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There doesn't have to be nicotine if you don't want there to be. There is e-liquid (the stuff that produces the vapor) in 0 nicotine strength. That way you still have the hand-to-mouth & breathing in sensation of smoking, but no nicotine. I've been weening myself off of regular cigarettes for several months, & I can breathe, smell, & taste better (erm, you know what I mean lol). I actually rarely use it in environments that don't allow smoking, just because I'm a very cue-driven smoker. Yes, I will take puffs of it when at a bar, but I don't use it at restaurants. I use it in my home, but I also will sometimes take it outside & sit on the steps if the weather is nice, just like I did w/ regular cigarettes (although I haven't smoked indoors for years, if the weather was nasty, I'd just suck it down fast).
 
nicotine is no worse for you then caffeine by itself really. whats bad in real cigs is the 4000+ other chemicals, tar, etc that are put off by the combustion of the tobacco.

ecigs work, and you can quit using them, i stopped smoking real cigs and started cutting down on my nic in the ecig too.

lots of info here
E-Cigarette Forum

i get my supplies here
VaperDepot - Your place for Ecigs
 
Caddyman said:
nicotine is no worse for you then caffeine by itself really. whats bad in real cigs is the 4000+ other chemicals, tar, etc that are put off by the combustion of the tobacco.
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Nicotine is a seriously deadly poison, are you kidding me? My dear departed grandma once used it as an insecticide, as did millions of other gardeners. Still might be available to the professionals, however. Not sure.

Just know that the toxicity level compared to caffeine is far, far greater.

As for additives in cigarettes, who knows for sure. There are many additives to be sure, but there are many chemicals in organic fruit or things like chocolate. Things like potassium cyanide and the stuff found in antifreeze exist in chocolate naturally.

Smoking in all forms is bad, including e-cigarettes.
 
nicotine in it's proper dose, is no more harmful then caffeine in its proper dose, for the body.

nicotine though, in concentrated does that would never be seen in a ecig or a real cig or any other device is more toxic in general.

dont cloud the issue with these things. like ecig liquid is usually made out of propylene glycol, OMG that is used in antifreeze!! ahh!!! well it is also use in asthma inhalers, medicines, and many other FDA approved such things...ya

i wouldn't say ecigs are "safe" or "not harmful" at all. we agree there totally, but from the little data that is available and the many doctors that actually are looking into it on a scientific and unbias level see they are LESS harmful then real cigs.

i can tell by how i can breathe better, smell better, taste better, that they are not as bad a real cigs.
 
Well that is assuming you define Caffiene as harmful. I think it is a beneficial substance and studies have shown that it protects human brain cells and can reduce the likelihood of Parkinsons or Alzheimers later in life.
 
Caddyman said:
nicotine in it's proper dose, is no more harmful then caffeine in its proper dose, for the body.

nicotine though, in concentrated does that would never be seen in a ecig or a real cig or any other device is more toxic in general.

dont cloud the issue with these things. like ecig liquid is usually made out of propylene glycol, OMG that is used in antifreeze!! ahh!!! well it is also use in asthma inhalers, medicines, and many other FDA approved such things...ya

i wouldn't say ecigs are "safe" or "not harmful" at all. we agree there totally, but from the little data that is available and the many doctors that actually are looking into it on a scientific and unbias level see they are LESS harmful then real cigs.

i can tell by how i can breathe better, smell better, taste better, that they are not as bad a real cigs.
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Not clouding the issue. Did you actually read your post?

E-Cigs might be "safe." As you posted, the data is not there. I can guess they are not safe just safer. Wanna be safe, do not use cigs or e-cigs, period.

What is the proper nicotine dose? Perhaps there are a few remedies that contain the stuff, but that aside, it is still toxic as hell. I am sure caffeine in its pure form is dangerous, but the amount in coffee and colas does not come close to dangerous levels.

Smoking is clearly more dangerous than drinking a Coke.

Will someone consult Wikepedia to prove me wrong? I might be.

I am not sure what is in the liquid. Could be "anti-freeze" or a variant. Actually, not antifreeze, but a pure form of the major constituent of the crap we put in our radiators.

Levels could also be low and therefore, not represent a danger. Or bloody dangerous and we will learn about it in a few decades. The liquid still contains nicotine, however. EG might be in other products but those applications and levels have been tested in most cases.

Not inhaled like in the case of e-cigarettes.
 
jamor said:
^^ Sweet! I know you were struggling earlier but good to hear you are comin through. I bet you feel a lot better - I sure do.
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Thanks commish;)! It really does feel great, though i think about it every once and awhile.

I even been working out, i'd died if i tried to do 4 miles on bike THEN get on treadmill while i was smoking:D
 
NightAngel79 said:
I even been working out, i'd died if i tried to do 4 miles on bike THEN get on treadmill while i was smoking:D
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This right here is why I've majorly cut down. I'm a gymrat & a few months ago I discovered the joy of spin classes. They're an hour long, & I'd get winded just a half hour in. Now I can go the full hour, & even get some more miles in after the class on days that I have time to spare. I love it!
 
Check my sig - I got a kit on Christmas it was a KR808D between then and Jan 4, I had a total of 5 cigarettes. Since then I have not touched a cigarette. I still vape, but about 75% of the time it is nicotine free. I do it now because I like the flavors. As I typing this, I am vaping some 0 nicotine Atomic Cinnicide (tastes like an atomic fireball candy). It has worked for me, but like everythng in this world, YMMV.
 
Caddyman said:
nicotine is no worse for you then caffeine by itself really. whats bad in real cigs is the 4000+ other chemicals, tar, etc that are put off by the combustion of the tobacco.

ecigs work, and you can quit using them, i stopped smoking real cigs and started cutting down on my nic in the ecig too.

lots of info here
E-Cigarette Forum

i get my supplies here
VaperDepot - Your place for Ecigs
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Hey Caddyman-good to see you. Thanks for posting the link to ECF -lots of good info to be found there. Congrats on your upcoming vetran status there.

Bob Maxey said:
Not clouding the issue. Did you actually read your post?

E-Cigs might be "safe." As you posted, the data is not there. I can guess they are not safe just safer. Wanna be safe, do not use cigs or e-cigs, period.

What is the proper nicotine dose? Perhaps there are a few remedies that contain the stuff, but that aside, it is still toxic as hell. I am sure caffeine in its pure form is dangerous, but the amount in coffee and colas does not come close to dangerous levels.

Smoking is clearly more dangerous than drinking a Coke.

Will someone consult Wikepedia to prove me wrong? I might be.

I am not sure what is in the liquid. Could be "anti-freeze" or a variant. Actually, not antifreeze, but a pure form of the major constituent of the crap we put in our radiators.

Levels could also be low and therefore, not represent a danger. Or bloody dangerous and we will learn about it in a few decades. The liquid still contains nicotine, however. EG might be in other products but those applications and levels have been tested in most cases.

Not inhaled like in the case of e-cigarettes.
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The major ingredient in e-cig juice is either Propylene Glycol - which is used extensively in pharmacuitals, including inhalers - or Vegatable Glycreine - a carbohydrate derived from plant oils. Both are USDA approved food additives.

You can find more information on Wikipedia for Propylene Glycol here: Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Bob Maxey said:
Smoking is clearly more dangerous than drinking a Coke.
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Ummm... please quote where anyone in this thread has said smoking is as safe or safer than drinking a coke.

If you are going to attempt to refute someone's post, please limit your response to what the people you are responding to actually said.
 
Quit back in November 09, After smoking for over 14 years. Haven't looked back once. GF at the time ( now engaged to the wonderful woman ) bought me a PS3 to keep my mind off smoking ( and for a birthday present ). I used the Inhaler. NICORETTE
 
G.Armour said:
Those electronic cigarettes never worked for me, actually made me smoke more.
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You mean use them more often than you used regular cigarettes? Yeah, that happened to me when I started using them as well. I think it was the novelty of them. That soon wore off & I started using them the same as I smoked normally.
 
That was my experience too Penguin. I still use mine more often because I can use it just about everywhere, but at extremely low to no nicotine.
 
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