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Root reverting BACK from "No root required" ice cream sandwich, please advise!

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Satires

Android Expert
I went ahead and used the ics leaked rom where root was not required. Everything is fine, but the browsers still have issues.

THIS PHONE HAS NEVER BEEN ROOTED!

I may be able to get into a different phone, but not with ics on it.

I found an ruu file on xda, it was just over 400 mbs. The latest official ics leak was over 600 mbs! Thay tells me if I try to use xda's ruu, I could mess things up.

Where can I get the FULL official ruu d everything to bring the phone back to factory gingerbread with the right boot img and radio etc.

Like I said this phone has never been rooted. Can I go back without rooting so I can turn this phone in?
 
sorry,but you are SOL. up a creek without a paddle,so to speak. sorry to be so blunt,but there is no way to revert from the ICS leak back to gingerbread.

the only thing you can do is wait it out,and flash an official ICS when its released,to get yourself back on current firmware.

others should learn from this mistake- great caution must be taken when deciding wether or not to "update" an s-on phone with leaked firmware,as you will have to live with the decision until newer firmware is available.

gone are the days where we can trick the phone into downgrading by running a few adb commands.

i dont mean to pick on you,but this is a good lesson for folks to learn.
 
scotty85 said:
sorry,but you are SOL. up a creek without a paddle,so to speak. sorry to be so blunt,but there is no way to revert from the ICS leak back to gingerbread.

the only thing you can do is wait it out,and flash an official ICS when its released,to get yourself back on current firmware.

others should learn from this mistake- great caution must be taken when deciding wether or not to "update" an s-on phone with leaked software,as you will have to live with the decision until newer software is available.

gone are the days where we can trick the phone into downgrading by running a few adb commands.

i dont mean to pick on you,but this is a good lesson for folks to learn.
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Well, atleast I'm honest enough not to sell it to anyone. I was quite surprised my bionic had zero problems and appears faster.

If I knew that this was a software thing and not a hardware thing, I would just root it and load a custom rom.

Well, hopefully the phone will still update to the ota update, if not, I'm just throwing it in the trash, I can't sell it like this to anyone...

The bionic will be my forever phone because of webtop and it's plentu fast for my needs. :)
 
scotty85 said:
sorry,but you are SOL. up a creek without a paddle,so to speak. sorry to be so blunt,but there is no way to revert from the ICS leak back to gingerbread.

the only thing you can do is wait it out,and flash an official ICS when its released,to get yourself back on current firmware.

others should learn from this mistake- great caution must be taken when deciding wether or not to "update" an s-on phone with leaked software,as you will have to live with the decision until newer software is available.

gone are the days where we can trick the phone into downgrading by running a few adb commands.

i dont mean to pick on you,but this is a good lesson for folks to learn.
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Oh, and one more thing. Lesson to be learned? Not all of us have hours on end to research. I just want my phone to work. I appreciate the reply, but this lesson learned bit is like kicking a man when he's down (Reading between your lines).

If anything I have learned is to stay away from htc in the future. Unless I'm wrong, I believe with the Motorolas you can go back. But that's speaking from my droid x experience of being able to wipe it and go back to stock even with a locked boot loader.

That being said, I can't believe there is not a zip file that is signed that would just wipe the phone. (I'm not saying I don't believe you personally)

If htc phones are like that, I have no need to buy another regardless of the specs.

We're supposed be sticking together, it's us against them, right?

So please, in the future, save the subtle judgement and just answer the question when someone asks. Not all of us are as knowledgeable and make mistakes.

If read you wrong I apologize...
 
there is no need to get worked up,as i said,im not personally attacking you,just using your situation to hopefully help other folks from ending up in your same situation.

i personally love htc devices. i believe htc is a good complany that listens to its customers,and while htcdev unlock is not 100% unlocked,it is an attempt from them to give the customers what they want.

again,im sorry,but with an s-on bootloader,you are stuck on this version until a newer one comes out. i am personally on the same leak,and have no issues with it whatsoever,aside from some occasional quirkyness from the keyboard. you mention the browser... have you tried any third party browsers?

while you cannot roll back to gingerbread,maybe if you describe the issues you have,we can help,and find other solutions.
 
scotty85 said:
there is no need to get worked up,as i said,im not personally attacking you,just using your situation to hopefully help other folks from ending up in your same situation.

i personally love htc devices. i believe htc is a good complany that listens to its customers,and while htcdev unlock is not 100% unlocked,it is an attempt from them to give the customers what they want.

again,im sorry,but with an s-on bootloader,you are stuck on this version until a newer one comes out. i am personally on the same leak,and have no issues with it whatsoever,aside from some occasional quirkyness from the keyboard. you mention the browser... have you tried any third party browsers?

while you cannot roll back to gingerbread,maybe if you describe the issues you have,we can help,and find other solutions.
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Thank you for the clarification (Warm smiles), I apologize for misunderstanding.

On the gingerbread stock rom? The web pages of any given site would not load some of the images and or half *ss load the web page prompting me to have to reload the web page. It defeats the purpose of having a 4g phone to begin with when one has to constantly reload the web pages. The Rezound at the Verizon store did the same thing and my replacement Rezound does also...

It happened the stock browser and dolphin. I tried opera and it doesn't happen, however the web pages take forever to load as if I was on the 1x network.

I really thought there would be a way to get back.

Ice cream sandwich is so far great! Now? the web browsers load the pages properly but are are slow at doing so and sometime even hang trying to load a page.

On both the gingerbread rom and ice cream sandwich rom everything appears and is solid. Streaming radio and video is great. It's the web browsers that are the problem.

I do a lot of browsing researching things and writing, I need my browsers to be up to speed or the phone is useless to me. My bionic somehow smokes this phone. Problem is, I dropped my bionic yesterday ...

Don't get me wrong, I love my Rezound if it worked as smooth and didn't have these issues. I actually don't care to root and rom my phones. I root to try and repair them and I did root my bionic to stop any updates because the phone is awesome as is. I did that because my droid x got wrecked after an update. If my droid x was 4g I wouldn't have bought another phone! lol

So what do you think? Will rooting and romming this thing help? If you're wrong and say yes I wouldn't hold it against you. :)

I would just hate to trash this phone and who knows if the update will even work if it's the same build number.
 
as much as i love to root and mod my phones,i dont think that this is really a situation where rooting the phone will help,as most of the current roms are based on this leak,and prolly still running an unmodded stock browser :(

once we have good functional AOSP,it may be worth rooting,as the cm9 and AOSP roms will be using a different browser.

having said that,rooting certainly cant hurt ;) deleting a bunch of bloat,or running a "cleaned up" custom rom may speed the phone up,may even help your browser issue.

its actually been along time since ive used a stock browser on anything. ive never been a fan of opera,i did use dolphin for awhile. my current favorite is miren browser,wich i strangely dont see in the market anymore,but i could upload the .apk if youd like to give it a shot.

i dont use my browser quite as intently as you do,and thus havent really noticed those issues. i would prolly root and delbloat,or switch to a custom rom,and try a few different browsers. hopefully that will help your browsing experience :)

as for roms,scotts "cleanrom" is a definate favorite. i usually run nils "business sense" as i like the blackish theme ;) currently im on the stock leak,but running apex launcher,and with ALOT of htc things deleted :p
 
scotty85 said:
as much as i love to root and mod my phones,i dont think that this is really a situation where rooting the phone will help,as most of the current roms are based on this leak,and prolly still running an unmodded stock browser :(

once we have good functional AOSP,it may be worth rooting,as the cm9 and AOSP roms will be using a different browser.

having said that,rooting certainly cant hurt ;) deleting a bunch of bloat,or running a "cleaned up" custom rom may speed the phone up,may even help your browser issue.

its actually been along time since ive used a stock browser on anything. ive never been a fan of opera,i did use dolphin for awhile. my current favorite is miren browser,wich i strangely dont see in the market anymore,but i could upload the .apk if youd like to give it a shot.

i dont use my browser quite as intently as you do,and thus havent really noticed those issues. i would prolly root and delbloat,or switch to a custom rom,and try a few different browsers. hopefully that will help your browsing experience :)

as for roms,scotts "cleanrom" is a definate favorite. i usually run nils "business sense" as i like the blackish theme ;) currently im on the stock leak,but running apex launcher,and with ALOT of htc things deleted :p
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Well, I did get everything rooted and placed the stock ics leak on the phone and then used scotts cleanrom developer edition. I love the speed and interface!

The browsers however are still having problems...

Opera crashes

And Dolphin and the stock browser doesn't load the pages right after a few minutes of browsing, especially dolphin.

What happens is, when I scroll down a larger web page, the page breaks up as if the browsers was running out of memory.

I am lost on this one.

Unless anyone has any other ideas, I have to retire this phone, I haven't the time to keep playing with it! I wasted most of my weekend with this thing.

Thank you for the help. :)
 
sorry it didnt work out for you. unfortunately,i cant think of any solutions at this time,other than trying other browsers.

the ics leak is,a leak,and as such it may be better when an official version is pushed. also AOSP is being worked on,and when its working and useable i actually feel fairly confident that it would be better. motos blurr UI is not nearly as involved,or intertwined as htc sense,so your moto rom and browser are prolly more "AOSP like" for lack of a better way to put it.

but fully functional AOSP is a way off,so use a device that better suits your needs. no biggie :)
 
Great! So if I'm stock unrooted, re-locked ICS, I can first unlock, then root ICS. acheive S-off, then I can pretty much flash what I want?
 
scotty85 said:
yes. if you want to unlock,root,and achievce s-off,you can roll all the way back to shipping fimrware if you wish :)
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OK Scotty!

With the jBear provided S-OFF:

So, if someone is on the ICS Leak, or on Scott's Senseless (or other) ROMs, one only needs to relock the bootloader and RRU back to gingerbread? And it will put everything back to GB (ready for official HTC/Verizon ICS update) - even the radio firmware will be back to GB version?

Howard
 
Correct. Everything will flash back,as the radio is no longer doing ANY security checks. You actually don't even need to relock. Just run the ruu. :)
 
scotty85 said:
Correct. Everything will flash back,as the radio is no longer doing ANY security checks. You actually don't even need to relock. Just run the ruu. :)
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S-OFF actually relocks you. The key is S-OFF - get that done and the phone is at your disposal
 
mtbhk44 said:
S-OFF actually relocks you. The key is S-OFF - get that done and the phone is at your disposal
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yes,the procedure does leave you locked s-off. i was speaking more generally... if a person has unlocked to use the available fastboot commands,there is no need to relock. just run the ruu :)
 
Has anyone else noticed that the ICS Leak distributed from androidpolice.com is a corrupted zip file?

The MD5 checksum match, but...
Windows will not open the zip file - complains it is a corrupted zip file.

Have people been installing corrupted zip file on their phones?

Howard
 
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