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rugby vs American football (or as you yanks would call it, football)

Not sure about "the Homo erectus to the NFL’s modern man", but otherwise sounds pretty much spot on .. except that it missed two fundamental features of the game: the close association with alcohol and the raucus singing of risqu
 
Can't really say about the communal bath as that has pretty much stopped, in Scotland at least...only club I've played at that had the old bath, had it converted into showers! Also didn't mention mauls but still really good item :-P
 
I have a friend who played for New Zealand National Team..
before meeting his wife and moving here (US).

He and his wife have a huge party every summer and some of his old team mates come over from Australia and New Zealand...and all I have to say is they are by far some of the toughest, crazy, manly , seriously know how to party:) men , I have ever met!!.
but at the same time.. chivalrous, courteous and really know how to respect and treat women..


good people:)
 
My rugby career was cut short after I was put in the front row of the scrum (?! I normally played fly half and am definitely NOT built like a forward) and whoever was behind me reached through and grabbed .. a convenient extremity.

I immediately stood up and .. asked who had taken hold (though not quite in those words) and was immediately sent off, never to return.
 
A friend convinced me to join the high school rugby team by telling me it is like (Canadian) football. He lied.
 
Now I finally know. Thanks sntaylor. I always used to say rugby represented a battle and NFL football represented war. I had no idea rugby was actually a melee twixt berserkers.
 
I didn't see any references to a Zulu Warrior??

Heeeeyyyy Zulu Warrior, heeeeeyyy Zulu Warrior!! :D

I played for several years. Hooligans sport played by gentlemen. ;)

Here's to The Breezes... :D
 
Only Americans will hold a sporting event in which only American teams participate and declare the winner world champions. :rolleyes:

It's not a bad idea, though: look how teaching foreigners our games has worked out for us: we get creamed at pretty much everything*!

Plus, did you know that England still officially holds the record for the number of Wimbledon champions? Because they didn't let anyone else compete for the first 50 years :D


* though we do seem to be doing reasonably well at cricket these days - oh to be in Aus now .. :D
 
??? Plenty of people both watch and care about both sports, I like an occasional game of American football on the t.v. but much prefer rugby as it is more action less stopping and it's over after the 80 mins plus injury time....both sports are much more exciting and less infuriating than watching football(soccer) players diving about the floor after minimal contact, complaining of injury that would seem to require major surgery, then after getting their free kick etc they have miraculously recovered!
 
Purely personal opinion! In fact you'd probably find it has one of the lower popularity ratings world wide, considering almost everywhere else calls the sport American football, kinda says it all!

Depending on what you class as entertaining, I suggest you try watching Aussie rules it's one of the fastest paced games I've ever seen, and just as physical as rugby!
 
Purely personal opinion! In fact you'd probably find it has one of the lower popularity ratings world wide, considering almost everywhere else calls the sport American football, kinda says it all!

Depending on what you class as entertaining, I suggest you try watching Aussie rules it's one of the fastest paced games I've ever seen, and just as physical as rugby!

Absolutely!! International rugby is wayyy faster than American Football, and Aussie rules rugby is even faster!!

Just as brutal, if not more.

Also remember, there's no need for a gun....if you've got a Dunk!!:p
 
??? Plenty of people both watch and care about both sports, I like an occasional game of American football on the t.v. but much prefer rugby as it is more action less stopping and it's over after the 80 mins plus injury time....both sports are much more exciting and less infuriating than watching football(soccer) players diving about the floor after minimal contact, complaining of injury that would seem to require major surgery, then after getting their free kick etc they have miraculously recovered!

That is what infuriates me about soccer. I'd be watching an exciting match and then a guy falls on grass and needs a stretcher to take him off the field of play. Once he gets to the sidelines, he pops back up. I haven't seen the stretcher come out for a while, so maybe they got rid of it as it looked rediculous.

What turned me off completely was in the World Cup several years ago (I think it was that event) where a guy got hit in the foot, grabs his face and falls down like he got sucker punched. That is the one play that has been etched in my mind every time I think of soccer.

Players do try to feign injury or dive in other sports. In North American football, some players used this tactic to slow the play down. The CFL and NFL instituted a rule where if you need medical assistance, you have to miss 3 plays. That is significant enough that it discourages players from using this tactic.

In hockey, some players were embellishing falls in order to draw a penalty. The NHL in an effort to stop this, started calling penalties on the player who dives.

When I look at how soccer is officiated, I don't blame the refs who have to call the game. The ball can go half the field in a few seconds. If the ball gets kicked across the field away from the ref and two players make contact and one of them falls down, it is difficult for the ref to determine if the contact was incidental, a dive or a penalty. We as spectators have the benefit of the camera that can follow and zoom into the play. The play can be half way across the field and other players may be in the line of sight.

When it comes to officiating, I compare North American football to soccer. In North American football, there are 7 officials on the field. Each has a responsibility to part of the field. They all have overlapping responsibility to call most plays that take place in the part of the field for which they are responsible in addition certain specific responsiblities (eg., offsides for the head linesman and line judge).

In soccer, there are only 3 officials that monitor the play in the field. I'm not counting the official who monitors substitutions. Only the referee can really determine most fouls. The linesmen are only responsible for line calls and offsides. In effect, there is only one official who is responsible for calling most fouls that occur over the entire area of the field. I think that there needs to be many more officials with the authority to make general calls.
 
I agree completely about the Fouls etc and I've been brought up playing soccer and still occasionally do, as well as watching it from time to time, most recently I had to turn the champions league off after watching ten minutes as it peeved me off so much.

IDon't agree on having so many extra officials, especially as video replay hasn't been introduced(it is being allowed next season) is because it's meant to be a sport that can be played in the same way from children to professional....it's not too practical to have many refs at the kids game, and that's just to start.

one of the other problems the sport has is the supporters.....in rugby as in mostSports the supporters are able to sit next to one another and in many cases even have a beer at the game....in football the hooliganism is such that it cannot happen, and to me it impacts the atmosphere!

back to the issue regarding foul play.....I have a much simpler solution to prevent cheating in the game at the top level, unfortunately not lower down..... give a huge match ban, fines for player and the club if, after a review of video footage, it is deemed a player went down unnecessarily easily to gain advantage over the other team....there is a get out clause, honesty.....if a player goes down and the ref blows up for a foul and the player admits it wasn't a bad foul, then they just play the game with a bounce ball or similar!
 
Only Americans will hold a sporting event in which only American teams participate and declare the winner world champions. :rolleyes:
There is MLB in Canada and it's also played in Japan! :smokingsomb:

Recently, they are playing exhibition Football in London. We're trying to get other countries involved! ;)
 
There is MLB in Canada and it's also played in Japan! :smokingsomb:

I am aware of the Jays, but I didn't know any Japanese team could compete for the MLB championships (or whatever it is called).

Recently, they are playing exhibition Football in London. We're trying to get other countries involved! ;)

The teams are still based in American cities. Even though the Bills play some games in Toronto, the team is still based in Buffalo.

The many leagues based in the US are primarily American. There is hardly enough of an international flavour to call the winner "World Champions." I would say that a truly internation competition such as the various World Cups or Olympics would the winner be more appropriately be given the title of "World Champions."
 
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