Stop the smartphone os wars!

[chrlswltrs]

I don't believe that this is something to start a war over. A good debate yes, but threating that people should die because they use an iPhone is taking it too far. And usually this is coming from android users.

What phone you use may be better for you, but it may NOT be better for me. That's a perfectly fine choice. What you like, may not be what I like and that's fine. The war needs to stop, and we should have peaceful converstions about our opinions on them.

Was anyone making threats here that I missed?

 

[EarlyMon]

You can do many things via jailbreaking but there are some things you cannot do, too. But iOS was not designed to be Jailbroken and there are no custom ROMS. What you do have is the capability to do many--perhaps most--of the things a custom ROM provides without the need to change ROMS or worry about ROMS in the first place. Many that point to this lack of ROMS are largely clueless.

If there were a need/demand for custom ROMS, we would probably have them. Or perhaps there are a few; I no longer look past Cydia because problems await you when dealing with apps from untrusted sources.

Rooting or Jailbreaking is something most users could care less about until they hear about it and then they decide they need it. I jailbreak for one specific reason: the ability to access doc and text files on my iPad. I do use themes and a few tweaks, like adding more icons to the bottom of the screen; custom arranging my icons, adding screen widgets and other things.

You should see the looks on people when I show them my themes. Some people have asked me about my Android Tablet . . ."Gee, that locks like an iPad" because it runs DreamBoard and an Android theme. It works exactly like an Android tablet, too.

Trouble starts with the tech wonks arguing the minutia that might not even matter to those of us that are deep into Jailbreaking.

Remember, sometimes, you can add all of the features you want from Cydia that duplicate some of the features offered by a custom ROM on the Android side.

Jailbreaking adds lots of capability to iPads and iPhones. I never saw the need for a custom iOS ROM because everything I want to do is easy to do with a tweak or three.

The lack of a custom iOS ROM is not a reason to not like iOS devices until you know for a fact that you cannot do something with a jailbroken iOS device. No offense, but from your post, it is clear you might not know what you can do with a jailbroken iOS device and a trip to Cydia or a repo.

I might suggest that you can actually do more with a jailbroken iOS device than is possible with an Android device. The numbers of themes, mods, tweaks and other stuff available through Cydia and perhaps 500 plus repositories is astounding. If you want things for the Android side, you are "stuck" with whatever ROM(s) are available as well as the apps designed for rooted devices.

There are tens of thousands of things available on Cydia and there are vast numbers of repos outside of Cydia, so we have tens of thousands of potential "markets" that let you do anything you want or need to do.

Have you rooted either of the two Android phones you've owned?

 

[Bob Maxey]

Have you rooted either of the two Android phones you've owned?

I did my Triumph and I had issues with the Cricket. Not sure what I gained, but I did it because I felt left out.

Learned how on the AF Forums. I eventually went back to stock; I am still not sure what I did wrong, but there had to be something. No problems, but of late, no good deed in Bob's world goes unpunished, so I must have done something wrong. It is that whole "waiting for the other shoe" thing.

Not sure why I rooted them to be honest. I just felt I had to be part of the Rooter's Group. I thought beer and ribs would be served, and I am still waiting.

I'll embrace the Root and screw up my next Android phone to be sure.

Recently, I dropped my desk phone and somehow changed the ring tone. Does that count? At least it was old and sturdy. Oddly enough, I like the ring even more, now. Sort of a "brr....rin.....ger..ringy ring ring" kinda sound.

 

[saptech]

It's not the companies at fault it's the consumers (the people)!

People makes the world go 'round...

 

[Prinny]

I couldn't care less about what people say is the best OS. Sure I'll discuss options with people, but I treat it almost like religion: Don't talk about it at work, and don't force my opinion on others

 

[Russell Ng]

Not really sure what you mean by OS wars.... For me, I rather they all compete with each other like they are doing now... because its where consumers are getting all the choices and improvements from... The competition.

So am going to choose let the "war" continue...

But if you mean trying to sue each other.... I think that should stop, or at least be more focused on actual "stealing / copying" instead of everything under the sun (like a rectangle).

 

[chrlswltrs]

Not really sure what you mean by OS wars.... For me, I rather they all compete with each other like they are doing now... because its where consumers are getting all the choices and improvements from... The competition.

So am going to choose let the "war" continue...

I hope it won't continue as is. Right now it is Google innovating, and Apple suing and and copying Google, trying desperately to catch up. Then there is Microsoft in a far distant 3rd trying to break into the market. And RIM in a desperate free fall, pretty much irrelevant now.

I wish they would spend more money innovating. Last year Apple and Google both spent more money in court then they spent innovating (Apple suing and Google defending). Just think what we would have if they both spent those hundreds of millions on innovation instead of litigation.

 

[Bob Maxey]

Not really sure what you mean by OS wars.... For me, I rather they all compete with each other like they are doing now... because its where consumers are getting all the choices and improvements from... The competition.

So am going to choose let the "war" continue...

But if you mean trying to sue each other.... I think that should stop, or at least be more focused on actual "stealing / copying" instead of everything under the sun (like a rectangle).

I think the OP means the little battles and arguments and disagreements between iOS and Android. The hate, anger, pissy dialog and such. Not sure most people outside of dedicated forums really care one way or another.

Countless users are going about their day liking what they have and not caring about the things we care about. And not spending their time discussing which is a better OS.

These battles are forever and they will never die.

 

[SUroot]

Yes, bored of it. I still have to read the thread title before I can decide to ignore the thread. Sometimes its not evident until well into a thread. This wastes time, particularly with the sheer amount of text dedicated to this.

Sorry to be pedantic, I think option 2 was supposed to say "Couldn't care less", meaning you care so little that its not actually possible to care less. So "Couldn't care less."

As opposed to "could care less", meaning you do care so it is possible to care less. "Could care less". This is so ambiguous a way of clarifying the amount of care, that it could be anything from 1 to 100% caring because any of those levels, you could care less from. Basically anything except 0%, which ironically is the very thing we are trying to convey.

 

[Russell Ng]

I think the OP means the little battles and arguments and disagreements between iOS and Android. The hate, anger, pissy dialog and such. Not sure most people outside of dedicated forums really care one way or another.

Countless users are going about their day liking what they have and not caring about the things we care about. And not spending their time discussing which is a better OS.

These battles are forever and they will never die.

If this is about how one OS is better than the other, then its really redundant. Both are different serving different needs of different people. I like Android because of what I can do with it. But it does not mean iOS is not a good operating system and even if it isn't a "Good" operating system, so what? Why need to fight over it? Just use something else and forget about it....

When the OP mentioned war, I thought he meant the fact that Android and iOS was trying to "Up" each other. Giving features, speed, apps, environment.... that sort of thing and was thinking that is a good thing. If he meant had meant about all those petty lawsuits, then that's in my opinion.... well you know what I think about that.

If its about petty arguments regarding OS.... well.... its just petty. Don't even need to argue. The choice is already there. Its fine to voice your opinions, but I guess sometimes the lines between opinions and pettiness gets crossed.

 

[zuben el genub]

As long as the wars lead to tongue in cheek humor - let them rage.

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[EarlyMon]

^NSFW but funny!

 

[Satires]

Not really sure what you mean by OS wars.... For me, I rather they all compete with each other like they are doing now... because its where consumers are getting all the choices and improvements from... The competition.

So am going to choose let the "war" continue...

But if you mean trying to sue each other.... I think that should stop, or at least be more focused on actual "stealing / copying" instead of everything under the sun (like a rectangle).

I mean how consumers sometimes flame each other in forums and blog comments.

 

[Satires]

Was anyone making threats here that I missed?

No, it's just a general observation I have seen all over the web and in blog comments. Yeah, it's got it's humor, but to get down right mean about is ridiculous.

 

[Satires]

I own both. Call me what you will, I really won't listen anyway.

My phone rocks, I love it. My iPod rocks I love it. Nuff said.

Why waste energy on arguements that really don't solve any problems?

I like that! an Apple Android three way, sounds kinky. lol

 

[Satires]

Just curios, you have a prejudice against for profit companies... Without a company expecting to make a profit what other motivation is there to make a better OS than the competition? You try to make the best product and beat your competitors so that you can make more money.

Honestly I have no loyalty to an OS. When it comes to phones, Android has been the best since the original Droid (Android 2.1 released Nov 2009). I think Android is the best in tablets right now, but I own an iPad2 because when I bought it Apple had the best tablet OS. I am holding off on upgrading until the Microsoft Surface is released because I think it might be better than Android for a tablet.

BTW, Google, Apple, and Microsoft are only making these products to make a profit.

I will elaborate on what I mean about my prejudices.

I'm a huge Linux fan, and over the years I have heard things about Microsoft wanting to lock down bootloaders in home computers that ship with Windows on it. I have heard that Microsoft has wanted to sue certain Linux things (I say it that way because I don't remember the specifics).

I don't have a problem with companies making a profit, it's when the try to squash the little guy (Linux in general) and get too power hungry I have a problem.

 

[zuben el genub]

It's not so much squashing the little guy - they just want to lock you into one system. Easier to sell your demographics and track you.
Did you know you are a terrorist if you use "do not track?' It's unAmerican!

One ring to rule them all,
One ring to bind them;

I refuse to be bound.

 

[zuben el genub]

Proves my point. Get the salt if you want.
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