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Surprised No Whining/Complaining of No SD Card Included

When buying memory cards, I am a firm believer in getting name brands. As a photographer, I've been bitten enough in the past to have smartened up regarding media.

please explain. the class indicator means faster write speed the higher the class, correct?

as for name brands, i though Kingston is one of the good ones. this is because i was recently at OfficeMax and see quite a large difference in pricing between Kingston, SanDisk, Toshiba, Lexar, etc. Comparing the same storage size and class. confusing.
 
here's my concern with no SD card, which will not be for many already with one from past devices or additional purchase, is if you have to factory reset the phone (you know you have had to do it at least once) all memory is wiped. that includes pics, videos, music, apps, etc.

Yes. All memory would be wiped on an internal memory only phone. There are several back up programs that can help eliminate the issue, though.

with that said, make sure you get an external SD card large enough to match the internal storage, IMHO. and, lets hope that the software allow for move to SD, and default to SD for pics and such.

You don't necessarily need an SD as large as the internal storage. All your apps are backed up on the Android Market or Amazon App Store as the case may be. Once you go back to the Market after an internal wipe, your apps will be waiting to be downloaded again.

Movement to the SD is OS based, so yes, you will be able to move apps to the SD.
 
please explain. the class indicator means faster write speed the higher the class, correct?

as for name brands, i though Kingston is one of the good ones. this is because i was recently at OfficeMax and see quite a large difference in pricing between Kingston, SanDisk, Toshiba, Lexar, etc. Comparing the same storage size and class. confusing.

Yes, the class rises as the speed increases. This is a case of diminishing returns with cell phones, however. At a point, and I'm not sure where, a cell phone can't really use all that speed. I would imagine beyond class 4 to 6, a cell phone reaches an upper limit. Someone mentioned that class 10 would help downloading from a computer, but I'm not sure if that would be the case.

Yes, Kingston is considered a "name brand." The thing you have to be concerned about in buying any memory, is to get it from a reputable dealer. If the dealer purchases counterfeit merchandise, it doesn't matter what the brand is. It is pretty easy to come up with stick-on labels that look like the real thing. Use a seller who has a positive rating.
 
Yes, the class rises as the speed increases. This is a case of diminishing returns with cell phones, however. At a point, and I'm not sure where, a cell phone can't really use all that speed. I would imagine beyond class 4 to 6, a cell phone reaches an upper limit. Someone mentioned that class 10 would help downloading from a computer, but I'm not sure if that would be the case.

Yes, Kingston is considered a "name brand." The thing you have to be concerned about in buying any memory, is to get it from a reputable dealer. If the dealer purchases counterfeit merchandise, it doesn't matter what the brand is. It is pretty easy to come up with stick-on labels that look like the real thing. Use a seller who has a positive rating.

thanks, but is the speed increase relating to read or write, or both? i thought it was one or the other (can't remember which), not both.

as for name brand, yeah, i thought so, too. it's weird because the retailer was Office Max, not some ebay or online seller from no-where.
 
thanks, but is the speed increase relating to read or write, or both? i thought it was one or the other (can't remember which), not both.

A speed rating addresses both read and write speeds.

Here is a discussion of speed rating from the SanDisk website: (And note that I have used "non-name brands" like Transcend and have never had a read-write failure. I am positive you can easily use a class 4 card on a cell phone and never know the difference between that and a class 10.)


What does this difference mean for me?

Rated Speed (e.g. 15MB/s, 30MB/s, etc.) is maximum speed of the card and also what you would expect to approximately see in typical usage of writing or reading files on the card. This measurement is pertinent to still photography, especially for taking pictures with high resolution and/or saving in RAW format where the files created are very large. The faster the card, the faster it can save the file and be ready to take another picture. You really notice speed differences with high-megapixel DSLR and multi-shot burst mode.

Still digital images shot on high-megapixel cameras should utilize fast data throughput (a large pipe), higher speed cards for improved performance. Higher speed cards can also improve how fast you can download (or upload) the files from the card to your computer.

Speed Class is a minimum speed based on a worst case scenario test. The Speed Class is important for video mode or camcorders, where the device is actually saving a steady stream of data. The resolution and format of the video determines the amount of steady stream data. This translates to a minimum speed you need to guarantee that the video captured on the cards is recorded at an even, sustained rate with no dropped frames (which typically results in lost data and choppy playback).

Compared to high-megapixel photography, video doesn't need as big a pipe because the video format is a smaller "fixed stream" that uses only a portion of the pipe. But you do need a minimum guaranteed speed for the SDHC card that satisfies the requirement of the data stream. Your camera's specifications should state the minimum SDHC Class Rating required.

Using a card without the proper class rating on a more advanced camera, such as a high-definition (HD) camcorder or Digital Single Lens Reflex (DSLR) camera with HD video record settings is likely to result in an error message indicating that video can only be recorded at a lower definition setting.

The current SDHC specification defines Class 2, 4, 6, 8 and 10 as follows:

Class Minimum Speed

2 2MB/s

4 4MB/s

6 6MB/s

8 8MB/s

10 10MB/s
 
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