Tea Party Fights Freedom

[SiempreTuna]

Wait, did Eric call for looser immigration laws?

I believe all he did was consider a compromise with the Democrats on an immigration bill.

can you name such a society?

Pretty much every country in the world before WWI. People forget how recent an innovation immigration control actually is ..

There's quite a lot of historical evidence that empires tend to prosper while they are open and tolerant and fade rapidly when they become closed and intolerant. Given the US is the closest we have to an empire at the moment (that may be changing with ISIS in Iraq and Syria, of course) ..

 

[dibblebill]

can you name such a society?

Nobody's ever recently tried such a thing and even the "freest" movements of people mentioned in the aforementioned post were still restrictive.

 

[Benjie]

I believe all he did was consider a compromise with the Democrats on an immigration bill.



Pretty much every country in the world before WWI. People forget how recent an innovation immigration control actually is ..

There's quite a lot of historical evidence that empires tend to prosper while they are open and tolerant and fade rapidly when they become closed and intolerant. Given the US is the closest we have to an empire at the moment (that may be changing with ISIS in Iraq and Syria, of course) ..

Closest to an empire: look at Russia and a bit at China.

 

[Kritter888]

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/...s-wouldve-revolted-against-surveillance-state


Tea Party, Taxes and Why the Original Patriots Would

 

[Kritter888]

 

[Benjie]

Exchange servers make multiple backups.

 

[JohnLaird]

Illegal immigrants are never welcome when you are the one paying their bills...sorry but they drain resources. Most of them come here for work and they do contribute to the economy...but they don't pay income taxes obviously. So at some level the legal taxpayers have to pay all their emergency medical expenses as well as other public services. That said...the tea party is obviously supported by paying taxpayers...so please don't whine because some of the people in charge are rich. That's very naive...rich people almost always run things in any country you are in. One solution to this problem would be to tag every illegal immigrant you catch and stick a RFID tag in their arm. Then you could least you would know if they are a repeat offender if they make another attempt to cross the border when caught.

 

[jajrussel]

This is just an observation. If the illegal immigrant is working for a legitimate company using a fake ID they do pay taxes through payroll tax deductions.
I would imagine that it might be difficult to get a tax return for fear of getting caught.
The ones who are not paying taxes are likely working for people who wish to take advantage of their illegal status to gain cheap labor, and that is just as bad if not worse for the economy.

 

[jefboyardee]

 

[Kritter888]

The goal is to have voters on his side &
& its been known since January that's when this contract was offered & so the planing was longer you have to figure

 

[SiempreTuna]

One solution to this problem would be to tag every illegal immigrant you catch and stick a RFID tag in their arm. Then you could least you would know if they are a repeat offender if they make another attempt to cross the border when caught.

.. except of course, that would require extensive and very expensive survellience that Tea Party supporters would refuse to pay the taxes to support :rofl:

 

[out of ideas]

.. except of course, that would require extensive and very expensive survellience that Tea Party supporters would refuse to pay the taxes to support :rofl:

come on dude, every day our government throws tons of more money around to spy on our legal citizens without their knowledge. we don;t get to vote on what taxes we pay over here. our "duly elected representatives" decide that for us.

 

[SiempreTuna]

That may be true but it doesn't change the fact that the duly elected representatives (and their supporters) who are panicking about immigration (even though I believe it has been falling in recent years) are precisely the same people who are rabidly opposed to government doing anything or spending anything.

 

[Benjie]

Wow. Let us say spend widely. Panicking about immigration. May we suggestion you open your house to 100 or so, as you state there is no problem. Panicking? Over illegal immigration, which you so convenientlyfail to state. Move to a border state and tell us there is no problem with illegal immigration. After doing so, stand next to Nancy as she claims to be the friend of the disadvantaged, the downtrodden, the illegal immigrant. Tell her to open her hope to you and your illegal immigrant friends.