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Root Tips about rooting for a Beginner please?

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sinnovations

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Hey guys, I literally just got my Samsung Galaxy S a few days ago, and I never realized how good Android really was until stepping away from iOS - now, I used to jailbreak my iPhone, and I've heard that I can root/lagfix my Galaxy S.

I'm REALLY stuck at what to do, there's threads on how to do it on here, I fully understand that but most of them are completely outdated and I'm not sure whether to trust it. I'm alright with ROM's, I'm not entirely interested in Custom ROM's as per say, but I'm interested in rooting and getting rid of the lag via the Voodoo Lag Fix.

I got as far as downloading z4root, and putting it on my phone ready to install, but I thought to myself, I don't have a clue what I'm doing after I permanently root it. I came to ask some questions.

Why should I root my phone?
Voodoo Lag Fix, it's not on the Market anymore, where would I get that from and install it for my current version?
Custom ROM's are they safe and what is the advantage of doing so?

I'm in the UK and I know that Samsung are releasing 2.3 Gingerbread onto all Galaxy S devices by the end of March, so I'm not sure if it's worth waiting for that?

Any tips, or how to suggestions would be much appreciated!

Many Thanks in advance.
 
Hello sinnovations.

I root mainly to get rid of stock apps and services and to get more apps/files, etc onto my SD card and out of the device's internal memory.

Over time, I've noticed an upgrade in performance, this with no over clocking of the CPU. Some root for the over clocking itself. ;)

I'd say that most root for ROM selection; there is a vast array of ROMs out there, many with differing approaches to how the OS is presented and handled.

Your mileage may vary. ;)
 
Frisco said:
Hello sinnovations.

I root mainly to get rid of stock apps and services and to get more apps/files, etc onto my SD card and out of the device's internal memory.

Over time, I've noticed an upgrade in performance, this with no over clocking of the CPU. Some root for the over clocking itself. ;)
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Thanks for such a quick response! I'm using z4root, is that what you used?

I generally want to be able to remove Samsung Apps off my internal SD card, use the Voodoo Lagfix etc. but I think it's off the market now? I'm totally confused as to where to even start!
 
No, I "toggle" root by going through a process with several steps, although a few times ago I did use z4root just to see how/if it worked.

You'll have to investigate the best method for your device and for your sensibilities. ;) Many users just want root quick and easy and reliable with no glitches.

I need glitches so that I can learn about how to get out of them and thus be better informed on helping others.

I see you have a Galaxy S.. is it the i9000, or another model by that general name?
 
Frisco said:
No, I "toggle" root by going through a process with several steps, although a few times ago I did use z4root just to see how/if it worked.

You'll have to investigate the best method for your device and for your sensibilities. ;) Many users just want root quick and easy and reliable with no glitches.

I need glitches so that I can learn about how to get out of them and thus be better informed on helping others.

I see you have a Galaxy S.. is it the i9000, or another model by that general name?
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Yep, it's the i9000 model, I downloaded z4root and put it on my phone, installed the app and that's as far as I got!

Generally confused by the idea and don't want to bugger my phone haha
 
sinnovations said:
Yep, it's the i9000 model, I downloaded z4root and put it on my phone, installed the app and that's as far as I got!

Generally confused by the idea and don't want to bugger my phone haha
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I don't encourage new users to root their devices, no matter how easy the process or app is for doing that.

It's best to get used to your phone, work and play with it, use it. Many decide against it for the warranty void, and also for the simple reason that it's a fast, reliable device not rooted.

You'll see other opinions about rooting right away. I've given you mine. ;)

I've also moved your thread to the Galaxy S forum for you.
 
Frisco said:
I don't encourage new users to root their devices, no matter how easy the process or app is for doing that.

It's best to get used to your phone, work and play with it, use it. Many decide against it for the warranty void, and also for the simple reason that it's a fast, reliable device not rooted.

You'll see other opinions about rooting right away. I've given you mine. ;)
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Yep It's a quick device, I'm very happy with it and I love the customization on it, I decide what I want and how I want it to be/look, I'm not tied down to iOS and what Apple wants me to do.

The only reason why I'd honestly want to root it, is for the lagfix? People say there's a huge increase in speed of the phone with that, other than that, I can't honestly say I'd want anything else. I like the market place, and my phone is under warranty, and 2.3 is coming out at the end of this month, so I'd be stuck if I rooted it now, right?
 
Frisco said:
No, I "toggle" root by going through a process with several steps, although a few times ago I did use z4root just to see how/if it worked.

You'll have to investigate the best method for your device and for your sensibilities. ;) Many users just want root quick and easy and reliable with no glitches.

I need glitches so that I can learn about how to get out of them and thus be better informed on helping others.

I see you have a Galaxy S.. is it the i9000, or another model by that general name?[/QUOTE]


This forum is for the GT-I9000, not the US variants. It is also not just a general forum for any old Galaxy phone
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The UK has Android 2.2.1 so if you update it to 2.2.1, you don't need lagfix as 2.2.1 is smooth.

I think all UK networks have released 2.2.1 for there phones by now except O2 I think but if yours is a normal sim free Galaxy S, you should just update it to 2.2.1 as its been out for months now.
 
IMO forget about z4root. It never worked on my GT-i9000 (HK version). Just
1) Download and unzip SuperOneClick
2) Set your phone to debug mode Menu > Applications > Development > USB debugging
3) run SuperOneClick as an admin/super user
4) Connect your phone via USB
5) Click Root! and allow it to do a test at the end. You should be good to go.

Android 2.2.1 makes the Galaxy S what it *really* should have been out of the box. About half a year of grief waiting for things to get to this stage. Now Android is really starting to look up.

Read about SuperOneClick
 
Frisco said:
I don't encourage new users to root their devices, no matter how easy the process or app is for doing that.

It's best to get used to your phone, work and play with it, use it. Many decide against it for the warranty void, and also for the simple reason that it's a fast, reliable device not rooted.

You'll see other opinions about rooting right away. I've given you mine. ;)

I've also moved your thread to the Galaxy S forum for you.
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Opps. Sorry.
 
tempest7 said:
IMO forget about z4root. It never worked on my GT-i9000 (HK version). Just
1) Download and unzip SuperOneClick
2) Set your phone to debug mode Menu > Applications > Development > USB debugging
3) run SuperOneClick as an admin/super user
4) Connect your phone via USB
5) Click Root! and allow it to do a test at the end. You should be good to go.

Android 2.2.1 makes the Galaxy S what it *really* should have been out of the box. About half a year of grief waiting for things to get to this stage. Now Android is really starting to look up.

Read about SuperOneClick
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As a brand new user, I was wondering, is there a way to 'lag fix' the phone without rooting it? Is the difference noticable?

if you DO HAVE to root it to lag fix, and i did what ive quoted, will this void the warranty I'm guessing?
 
up2nogood said:
As a brand new user, I was wondering, is there a way to 'lag fix' the phone without rooting it? Is the difference noticable?

if you DO HAVE to root it to lag fix, and i did what ive quoted, will this void the warranty I'm guessing?
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Do know which version of android you are running?

Menu > Settings > About Phone > Firmware version

If you have a phone that is running Firmware 2.1 or 2.2 you'll probably notice there's a fairly big difference in the speed. The trade off though is you might lose some stability on the phone (have a backup plan and directly sync contacts to google contacts/gmail). Most people opt to lag fix because the benefit of having a fast and responsive phone greatly out weights the added risk.

To be honest, I've had my phone for about half a year. If you can update (via Kies or other options) to version 2.2.1 (available in the UK and East Asia, maybe other places?) I makes the Galaxy S... the kind of phone it should have been out of the box. You'll find it's a lot more responsive and you won't need to lag fix.

That being said, you want to know if you can lag fix without 'rooting' the phone.

Basically look at it this way. If you're a normal plain worker at a company, you go to work and do whatever they company policy allows you to do. You follow the rules. That's how you use your phone right now.

If you 'root' your phone. All of a sudden, someone promoted you to a VP or higher and you can start making major changes. With power comes responsibilty.

Don't worry you can always 'demote' or 'un-root' yourself. So to be honest, there's not much of a concern. If you ever need your warranty, just 'un-root' and factory reset your phone, and I doubt they could tell you (or bother to tell you) otherwise. You're not changing hardware, just software.

Also, you'll notice when you update your firmware, you end up having to re-root your phone often. At least from my experience.

Hope that helps
 
Currently when I check the Firmware version it says 2.2; I'm on o2 in the UK though. I'm hearing about Gingerbread being released in the next few weeks or so as well. So you're talking about 2.2.1, I don't think I have it?
 
sinnovations said:
Currently when I check the Firmware version it says 2.2; I'm on o2 in the UK though. I'm hearing about Gingerbread being released in the next few weeks or so as well. So you're talking about 2.2.1, I don't think I have it?
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I still had plenty of lag problems on 2.2. You're right you do not have 2.2.1. I have no clue if there's an official release for O2 in the UK.

If you can't wait and you're just suffering then perhaps you can research about installing 2.2.1 yourself.
 
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