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Transfering Contacts and Messages from Nokia 6500 Classic to HTC Sensation XL - How to?

thedosbox said:
re: HTC transfer - once the phones were connected, nothing needed to be done on the Nokia. All of my contacts and messages were copied in one go. However, I don't have a 6500C to replicate what you're doing.

re: sync of contacts to gmail - you don't do this via a PC. Just enable your gmail account to sync contacts. Menu > Settings > Accounts & Sync > Google > Sync Contacts
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I believe I am going to need cell service to do this right? I should have mentioned before right now I am using a simcard without service. I bought the phone right before the new year and the telecom company said they needed two business days, unfortuantely I did not meet the deadline so I have to wait until next monday to actually start using the 3G+internet service on the phone. However, all of those contacts are still in the bluetooth folder.



chanchan05 said:
The vcf files are in your mass storage right? Just go to the people app>menu>import/export>import from sd. Doesn't matter if you don't have an SD card because the internal mass storage is named "sd" in the Android system.
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Actually I am not sure where they are, but they are in a folder called bluetooth downloads right now. I need to check if there is an import/export feature on the memory card or not, I did not see it the several times I went into "people." Cannot find import/export function while in the phone book - people.
 
newsmartphoner said:
Actually I am not sure where they are, but they are in a folder called bluetooth downloads right now. I need to check if there is an import/export feature on the memory card or not, I did not see it the several times I went into "people." Cannot find import/export function while in the phone book - people.
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They are on SD card. You aren't rooted, and according to you there is no external SD, that leaves you with only one storage option, the internal SD.

Have you went through the menu settings of the People or contacts app? search under menu, or settings, or display more. There's a lot of settings there usually.
 
I am assuming extended menus is the second key from the left with four vertical lines? That brings up a black and white menu? There is nothing there to import contacts... I so wish HTC's manual actually had pictures with step by step instructions for this stuff...

Ok just as typing this message I found it, but I am not sure that I could actually find it again.. it is very difficult to explain or even retrace how I got there.. I would love to be able to make a post now explaining step by step exactely what I did, but unfortunately for this step it might take me awhile, I think a lot of people have these same questions, and HTC needs to write it in the user's manual with pictures.

Now, do I have to follow the same steps to transfer over my messages? I have about 2000 sent messages and about 1000 recieved messages, I think it will take less than a gig for all of these, but is it truely going to slow things down by importing all that?

Where does HTC store all the synced stuff? I cannot find it.

Screen timeout resets after you turn the phone off, is this a problem with the phone or normal thing?

If I need to create a new thread for these, I will.
 
For messages, I never found out how, and never bothered to, so can't help you with that. Most methods I found on Google never worked.

Synced items are in the system storage, so I would really tell you to just make sure you are syncing you contacts to Google, so you won't have trouble moving contacts next time.
 
Still a little confused how to sync to google, I guess I have to download their application. Gmail for mobile this one right? Well this is going to have to wait until I actually have cell service next week then.

Well the reason I am asking about where HTC stores everything is because I want HTC to upload everything on my phone including all the junk they gave me, because their system stuff takes up 8GB! HALF of what they give you, and a lot of it perhaps I don't need right now. And it would be nice to know where on my system they store that stuff, like contacts, messages, etc. any ideas of which folder it's in?
 
Its invisible to you. Its on another drive. I don't think all the stuff they gave you uses up 8gb, that's probably something else, not HTC stuff, because you wont see those in storage. Think of it this ways, the 16gb you are seeing is sort of like the D: drive on a PC. All the stuff HTC gave you, with your contacts and messages are in C: drive, but that's invisible to you. Its like if you are on a windows PC and you open My Computer, but C drive is invisible and all you get are mass storage.

You dont need any application to sync to Google. When you imported your contacts, if you chose your Gmail account instead of phone, the contacts will be uploaded to Google automatically. To see what is syncing to Google, from your homescreen press the menu button>settings>accounts and sync>your google account. You really can't upload anything there because its not a storage unit.



EDIT: I understand you are probably confused at the terminology. There are 4 buttons at the bottom of the screen: the home button, the back button, the search button and the menu button. Whenever someone says menu, that's what they're talking about. Unlike in Nokia where the menu button corresponds to "app drawer" on Android.
 
Google is not correctly on my phone. I created a new gmail account for the scyning, but thinking now it may have unnecessary to do that? I did figure out about the menu buttons being on the bottom of the phone, that is where everything is, and every screen you go to it changes the menu. If you are not on the right screen then it is difficult to get to where you want to be in the menus, thus my reason for saying that HTC needs to make a more clear manual on how to use the phone especially for beginners. I am not a technology idiot, but the fact that it takes so much time to find stuff is really defeating sometimes.

Ok back to the google stuff.. ok i follwed your meaning above menu button>settings>accounts and sync> however google is not under there anywhere.

Another question, how to clear out the notifications? I had two failed bluetooth transfer shares yesturday and I still have two notifications in there, I tried both accept and decline the transfer but the messages are still there...
 
Further to the above post, I think I figured it out, I have to add the account, there is a box that lets you add accounts, and I just added google. However, as the process is now starting, though I do not think I can finish it until my sim card is active as it does have to communicate with google over the internet I think to log in. So I am doubting it is going to finish. but I think I figured it out, le tme know if this was what I was supposed to do.

Yeah it failed, I don't have a network connection, so I have to wait until next Monday to see if it works. Once connected then I can sync to google and it will update all my contacts online, right? Then if I change phones, provided it is another andriod, then I just have to sync back to google and Walla all my contacts will be downloaded easily?! :-)
 
Regarding the manual, there is a generic Android 2.3 manual available, much more comprehensive than the ones provided by manufacturers, since basically, its the same method for almost all of them with just minor alterations and maybe additional features.
http://static.googleusercontent.com...lp/hc/pdfs/mobile/AndroidUsersGuide-2.3.4.pdf

As for your questions:

1.) On my phone, there is a "clear" button when I pull down the notifications menu. You may have to scroll to the top of the list.

2.) Yes you are correct. Actually, even if you get a Windows Phone or a Symbian phone or even maybe an iPhone (not sure on this last), you can download your contacts from Google through sync. However as of the moment, your contacts are now saved as phone contacts and not Google contacts, so they will not sync, since you did not have a Google account when you imported them. You have to delete all the contacts and import them again from SD (if you did not delete the vcf files, if you did just make an export, delete all saved, then import again) and this time choose the Gmail account where you want it to sync.
 
That website should prove very useful, thank you.

1. I cleared it, but I still have two wierd looking icons that bluetooth uses at the top left. And the messages from bluetooth are still there.. Odd.

2. Ok, so I need to redo it, which will get done next wednesday, and I found the on the menu how to delete and delete all at one time. I will reimport them once I have active serivce and make sure that Google is live before I do it. You say delete all saved? Oh ok,, yep I found the on the menu bar, ok this is easy.. Why do I need to export them? Only if I add one durin the time until next week right? Otherwise I can just import them again from the bluetooth file. I still have the bluetooth file.

now, when I sync them to google, will it also import them into the "people" directory for the phone?
 
1. If there are icons, pull down the notification menu and click on the notification itself. It should open a new screen. Maybe you have to mark them as "read" or something.

2. Samsung handles it differently, but as I understand it, you import them to the People app as Google Contacts, then the People app will be the one to sync it to Gmail as long as its enabled in the Accounts and Sync settings. As for deleting and reimporting, you'd like to delete the Phone contacts, mainly because you'd have both Google and Phone contacts on the phone. You could link them, but its a bit of PITA that you'd have to edit the contacts twice if you have to add a new number to them (editing Phone contacts does not save those edits to Google Contacts), so its better to keep the contacts at either only phone, or only Google.
 
1. All it does is bring up a notification that says accept or reject the transfer, and I have tried both multiple times, they won't go away.

2. So I should actually import it do people apps and people apps will in turn send it to google? Provided I have google enabled. ok well next week will give it a try. What I worry about if I don't delete them as they may end up duplicating themselves which I dont't want. Yep that is wha tI am afraid of. I already need to edit the contacts as people changed area codes on me to three numbers rather than 2, I have no idea why it did that. Anyway ok so in a week or so we will see what happens.
 
In addition to the above.

3. Is there a way to download new apps to my pc and then sync them to the phone? I don't always want to use the phone's wi-fi or internet to download aps as it costs bandwith and more service fees from the telecom company.

Thanks
 
1. I'd try a reboot at that.

2. Yes there will be duplicates if you dont delete, one contact on two different save points (google vs phone).

3. No. App Market installs only direct to phone.
 
1. you mean turn on and off the phone? Already, doesn't work.

2. ok

3. What I mean is we can use the pc to download the file or through the pc to download and install the file to the phone?
 
1. Not really sure how, since I accept or reject doesnt work. Maybe a sort of full reboot (turn off phone, remove battery for like 5min and the turn on again) to clear the cache memory?

2.

3. Again, no, you can't download app installers from the Market to your PC. For Android Market, its direct to phone or not at all. There isn't any file on the App Market website for you to download. Clicking on install sort of sends a message to the phone to start downloading the app. You can download from other sources that's not the Android Market, but you should be wary of where you get the apps.
 
1. ok. I have tried it, it deleted them, finally, but is there another way to do this in the future?

3. So most andriod services will just send a mesasge to your phone to install the software. That stinks. How do they expect people still using 2G services to use a smart phone then? Some applications do not require the internet to run? Of course most people use 3G if they buy a smart phone, but.. I was hoping to avoid spending money on downloading the software but it seems I cannot get around it. What are some other reputable sites for downloading aps?
 
1. I think you just glitched. On my phone those things go away with a press of clear.

2. For the markets, I don't know really. AppBrain, Android Market and GetJar all download direct to the phone. For people running 2G services, there really are a lot of WiFi hotspots around.
 
1. I don't think this phone has a clear, that is unfortuante.

2. Alright, thanks for the feedback. I guess wifi is the only way then, but on my nokia 6500C I don't even have wi-fi enabled! You have to pay extra for anything other than normal cell service, so again, it is very odd that these apps cannot be downloaded to the pc first and then allow us to upload them to the phone via cable sync transfer... just odd to me...
 
Hi Chan, more problems...

I finally got my 3G and internet going this morning, but am running into more issues with contacts.

Do I need to set up the Google account on the phone first?

I tried to import my contacts to people as Google contacts as you said earlier, however, there is no way to do this, once I go into people to import the contacts there is no place for me to tell it to import as Google contacts. It just imports them back to people directly as vcf files...
 
In addition to the above, I am finding it annoying that HTC will only sync calendar and contacts to outlook, it even won't download my pictures.. This is very odd... Why doesn't Andriod have another system where by you can choose either outlook or their own software to help sync stuff. I already have contacts in outlook I don't want to mix. And not being able to figure out this google sync might be the answer for at least contacts, but not messages... hmmm
 
After some playing around, I finally got Google and the HTC phone synced, my contacts are now backed up. But how to back up messages from the HTC phone to the PC or to Google?

In addition is there any way to move the music Google put on the phone to the PC? I would like to keep it but free up space on the phone.

I think I may have to reset the factory settings of the phone because it synced outlook calendar without my knowing and it probably went back 10 years worth of calendar items, taking up lots of space on the phone.
 
1. Glad you have the contacts fixed.

2. Depends on how you got the music. Google Music for example is on the cloud, not on your phone.

3. Pictures on Google are handled by Picasa, so if you have Picasa on your PC and set the phone to sync to Picasa (this goes through internet as well from PC to phone), you'll see your Picasa albums on your phone's gallery. Personally I use Sugarsync for syncing anything other than contacts and calendar.

4. Google sync to Outlook does not go back 10 years. By default it only syncs about a month or two back, then a month or two forward, with the exception of recurring events.
 
re: app installations. If your home is connected to the internet via a wifi router, the phone can also use the same wifi router for data instead of the 3G connection. Any app downloads will then go through the wifi connection.

re: syncing between outlook (desktop application) and exchange (server application) are very different things.

The former can be accomplished via HTC Sync, and also syncs pictures and music between phone and PC (not sure about music purchased via google music), as well as calendar and contacts.

Syncing between the phone and Exchange is done via your 3G connection, and should be transparent to you once you've set up the account on the phone (use the HTC mail app).
 
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