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Help Using RMHD in Europe - Advice Please

dhbuckley

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Will travel to Europe this summer, specifically Spain & France, and am trying to determine what the choices are for voice and data use.

I want to avoid the ludicrously expensive VZW/partners international plans if possible but really do need to have both voice and data for occasional use. Wife has an iPhone 5 and will need to communicate with her.

1. Just how bad are the VZW plans and can you do both voice and data?

2. Anyone ever rent a hotspot for overseas use?

3. How straightforward is swapping out a sim and can you use prepaid ones across borders?

Any advice at all, much appreciated.

Travel well, all.

David
 
First off, I have not tried this with my RMHD. This is based on my last trip with another device (the Hated but Unlocked Treo, which I saved just for this purpose).

I don't know if VZW will allow the SIM to be swapped out for a local SIM. Call VZW first and ask if you are unlocked, but knowing VZW I would not be surprised if you are locked and required to use their service. However, I have heard that for long-standing customers, they will unlock the phone for use with other SIMS in Europe, but not U.S. This may be outdated info. I bypassed that by using an unlocked device.

I bought local SIM cards in France and Italy (did not buy them in advance of the trip). Had to buy an add-on for data. Language barrier was an issue in France (no surprise) but Italy was fine. Definitely was cheaper than paying VZW roaming for voice and data.

Here is a good place to research foreign carriers' pre-paid SIMS. PrePaidGSM.net

Would be interested in your results, because I want to use the RMHD for the next trip.
 
I called VZW Global dept just for kicks and was told that the RMHD running JB is already unlocked for Europe and that a local SIM should work.

I'll let you be the guinea pig :D
 
I found this company called TEP (which seems to be better than XCom per reviews I've read) and of course, immediately, their ad showed up above under my original post. Ahhh, the internet...ain't it just grand??!!

The pricing seems a bit opaque and I'm going to let an actual human explain it to me on Monday when they answer the phone but it doesn't appear to be as aggressively stupid/offensive as VZW and the other carriers for international usage. Hotspot is appealing for multiple devices too.

I gotta decide if I can rely on Google Voice/Talkatone for voice or if I need to change sim as well as get a hotspot.
 
I used my Bionic all over the world; including Britian, Germany Taiwan Indonesia. It can even be made to work on ATT in the USA. I used it both with the Verizon SIM (Vodafone) and international sims. You can read about that here:
http://androidforums.com/motorola-d...an-do-cmda-4lte-gsm-hspa-image-intensive.html
but basically the Bionic could be hacked to be a fully unlocked GSM and LTE phone.

Right now I'm in Cayman with the RMHD. My understanding too is that the RMHD is sim unlocked for foreign countries and will only function in the US on VZW. As far as cost goes, here is my conclusion. If you mostly make calls over seas an international sim will likely be cheaper but you get a different telephone number of course. If you mostly text, then either way. If you mostly use data, then VZW is a pretty good deal.

Voice: VZW is about $2 per minute and most in-country cards will be less an include free incoming calls.
SMS: $.05 to receive and $.5 to send is about as cheap as it gets so VZW is competitive.
Data: Foreign sims often give very little data and these phones even on HSPA or even UMTS eat through data. I once turned my data roaming on in Taipei for a few minutes and went through half my data. On VZW if you plan to use data, you MUST subscribe to the data plan otherwise you will be charged $20/MB. This will instantly gets ultra expensive. However the data plan is only $25 for 100MB. That doesn't sound like much in the land of 2GB data plans but having 10 devices on our account I can tell you that most of our devices only use about 200MB/month. For email, map data and a bit of browsing it is plenty especially if it is a shorter trip.

If you use VZW's sim all you have to do is go to your "my Verizon" account on the web and enable global dialing which is a free feature.

For a different carrier, you would need a Micro sim for the RM and possibly APN data from the sim company to program into the phone so it knows how to use data and MMS.

I elect to use the VZW sim (service) because I decided it was too much hassle to swap numbers for short trips. If I was gone longer it might be worth it. Also my international sims are full size and I don't have a cutter to make it a micro for this phone. Most places I am staying have free wifi so data is not a problem and the occasional calls won't kill me. For longer calls back to the USA I either Tango (Skype) over wifi for people who have that or use my google voice number with the "Spare Phone" app (Grooveip, Talkatone, Skypeout) to place wifi calls to US numbers for free. If you want to conserve data and are driving a lot, you can precache google map areas within the app over wifi.
 
Lars,
That's pretty much spot on. I too decided against local SIM cards because of the hassles involved. It's mostly used for data (even texting via alt apps) with a few min of calls. Although enabling global dialing is a $5.00/month charge I believe. Actually, the $5 gives you the 99cent/min calling plan, IIRC. If you don't pay the $5, I believe it's a bit more expensive per minute. You can activate and deactivate on a per trip basis.
 
The $5 value plan is good in certain countries. You have to check though because it doesn't give you a discount everywhere. The point on the global dialing is that you must select a plan. The free of monthly charges one you can leave on your account all the time and as you say you can add or remove the $5 one as you need it. If you don't have one of these two, you can't make any calls from overseas or make international calls from the USA. It's good not to have these options on kids phones so they don't run the bill up.
 
One more thing...when you get to your destination, VZW sends you a text message (does that get charged?) telling you about the roaming charges and whether the $25/100MB plan is active. so that helps.
 
i dont know but last time in germany, every sms i sent got sent and charged five times all on it's own. that was pricey! vzw said "prove it" i said there are five charges to each of the same num at the same time. i didnt type them and send five times each.... raw deal
 
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