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Verizon Galaxy 2?
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Damn September...that's to long of a wait, I was hoping more like April/May. Guess I'll have to go to Droid Bionic.
girlsliketech2
Newbie
Well it definitely wouldn't be in April seeing as it's not releasing in Korea until the 25th of April (I believe) and in the UK right at the start of May. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a May release, even if it's late May.
But then, not long after you get Bionic, SGS2 will be out on VZW and you will be locked to Bionic for two years.
AndroidifyMe
Android Expert
They already showed it on their Spring Road map. Supposed to be a LTE version. I'm sure most U.S. carriers SGSII will be a 4G device now. I say this month or through June is when U.S. carriers can probably announce them. It said May on Verizons road map but that can easily be pushed back.
girlsliketech2
Newbie
Are you talking about the fake roadmap? (Verizon’s Spring Roadmap Leaked, April Full of Androids with Samsung Droid Charge, Sony Ericsson Xperia Play, and HTC Droid Incredible 2 [EXCLUSIVE])
kyler13
Android Expert
kyler13
Android Expert
I wouldnt mind getting stuck with this phone for 2yrs. Its specs beat out both the TB and Bionic and plus its thin n slim then both of those phones!
Looks like it'll beat out the just announced HTC Sensation as well. I'm solid for the SGSII!
girlsliketech2
Newbie
I really like this phone as well, and hope to get it. Me getting it depends on a couple of things: 1. When it's released for VZW and 2. It's price. I can get by on the Bionic but would much prefer this phone.
I don't want to be waiting after mid-June for this nor do I want to get stuck with tiered data for 4g.
AndroidifyMe
Android Expert
What makes you think it will beat Sensation? I like to see SGS2 to beat Sensation but didn't see any comparison testing yet.
AndroidifyMe
Android Expert
I think it comes down to what type of skin do you like better and the functionality out them. I mean they both come with Gingerbread. Both have big screens. Both pretty thin. qhd vs plus. They have their unique differences. Personally I think the SGSII has a bit better quality over it. HTC devices are the same in a few areas from one flagship device to another that was announced a month a go. If you think about the Evo 3D, then what's the difference besides the 3D display? Same thing. I just assume that the people who think the SGSII is better then the Evo 3D shouldn't think different about the Sensation. Same device. I also feel that people assume the latest thing out is the best. Not always the case. You might be hung up on a device now and let a a device come out in the next couple weeks or even days and people will jump on to that. It's crazy.
Don't get me wrong though. Sensation is a nice device. Can't go wrong with it. People were already complaining about the slight lag it had in the never ending home screen spin. They need to know any device at an announcement is never final. Plus I notice the difference in the way it looks when you spin it compared to the Evo 3D. I think the 3D makes a difference in the appearance and that may be what people are getting confused about. I didn't see any lag on the Evo 3D.
I understand what you are saying and mostly agree. I was just under impression that he got to see some sort of comparison test. So I was curious on it. Performance wise SGS2 will be beast from what we have seen so far. Even at 1Ghz, Exynos did better than 1.2Ghz 8660 snapdragon in early benchmarks. Also its new UI seems like really fluid to the extent that now we can refute iFan's common claim that nothing touches iPhone in UI smoothness. I think android OS will eventually offer hardware acceleration to match or even surpass iOS in UI smoothness.
Also regarding availability on Verizon, I recently learned that Korea has three major wireless carriers (SKT, KT, LG U+). One of them LG U+ is CDMA based just like Verizon and the other two are GSM like AT&T here. Good news is that Samsung is launching SGS2 for all three carriers at the same time this year unlike delayed CDMA release last year. This means that CDMA version is just as ready as GSM version for release. Even though it's still speculation, I think it's reasonable to expect it to arrive at Verizon after AT&T in shorter period than what happened last year.
kyler13
Android Expert
I was speaking spec-wise, not benchmarks. Between AMOLED, more RAM, and better camera performance, I give the nod to Samsung. Didn't you yourself also state that the Samsungs were easier on battery life?
It's not that I doubted your claim. Like I answered in other post, I was just under impression that you saw some real world testing that I haven't seen yet.
Yeah, Samsung has definitely better handle on battery life than HTC. Not sure if that's from driver optimization in OS or some better chips on board. But what matters is that Galaxy S easily out lasts phones like Incredible, Evo. There is no reason that this trend won't hold for SGS2 vs Evo 3D, Sensation. It's amazing that HTC pretty much gets free pass on it while so many folks are complaining on battery.
One of the biggest reasons why I didnt get the TB was the lousy battery life not to mention how bulky it is.
AndroidifyMe
Android Expert
That sounds pretty good. I really hope they come in short time frames. This will be my first dual core and I look to stay with it until the SGS III. But I'm not even thinking about that right now. This device along with the pre-ordered NS4G will be sweet. Both gingerbread and one will have timely updates.
I saw a comment from a prominent Android review site (I spoke to the editor) and he said he doubts the SGS2 will come with LTE because the Samsung Charge already does; he said it wouldn't make sense for another Samsung to have LTE so soon.
Plus, there are rumors that the Bionic was scrapped because Tegra2 wasn't playing nice with LTE, so if that's the case, either SGS2 will come with LTE and Exynos or no LTE and T2.
Also, I saw an article that suggested North American SGS2 models would run T2. If that's true, and if the Bionic rumors re: T2+LTE are true, then likelihood of SGS2 coming with LTE is very low.
I saw a comment from a prominent Android review site (I spoke to the editor) and he said he doubts the SGS2 will come with LTE because the Samsung Charge already does; he said it wouldn't make sense for another Samsung to have LTE so soon.
Plus, there are rumors that the Bionic was scrapped because Tegra2 wasn't playing nice with LTE, so if that's the case, either SGS2 will come with LTE and Exynos or no LTE and T2.
Also, I saw an article that suggested North American SGS2 models would run T2. If that's true, and if the Bionic rumors re: T2+LTE are true, then likelihood of SGS2 coming with LTE is very low.
That's nothing more than speculation that anyone following IT newses can make like us unless it's coming from Samsung insider in relevant department. It still remains to be seen that Bionic is really nixed. If it's true, it would mean that marrying Tegra2 with LTE is very difficult like you said. I don't see why releasing SGS2 with Exynos/LTE would be problem for VZW if they release it in Q3. That's good 3~4 months between two.
Also given that CDMA version of Exynos SGS2 is launching together with GSM versions of Exynos SGS2 in Korea, it's not stretch to expect CDMA version of SGS2 on VZW in Q3 though LTE is still in question.
kyler13
Android Expert
I saw a comment from a prominent Android review site (I spoke to the editor) and he said he doubts the SGS2 will come with LTE because the Samsung Charge already does; he said it wouldn't make sense for another Samsung to have LTE so soon.
Plus, there are rumors that the Bionic was scrapped because Tegra2 wasn't playing nice with LTE, so if that's the case, either SGS2 will come with LTE and Exynos or no LTE and T2.
Also, I saw an article that suggested North American SGS2 models would run T2. If that's true, and if the Bionic rumors re: T2+LTE are true, then likelihood of SGS2 coming with LTE is very low.
Two things suggest the US will not get the T2, but rather the Exynos version: 1. The US is a key market for Samsung so I have to imagine they're going to target their own processor here. 2. Being how late the SGS2 will make it's debut here, it further supports the Exynos being the processor of choice as by the time there will be a relaxed international demand with many markets getting the phone first.
The Tegra 2 usage in the SGS2 is simply a way to meet demand due to short term supply issues with the Exynos. Samsung Electronics got a late start due to issues, but eventually they'll beef up supply. Make no mistake about it, Samsung wants to feature their own processor.
I also don't think a flagship powerhouse like the SGS2 will not have LTE, but I do think the Droid Charge means the SGS2 will not debut until September at the earliest on Verizon. I think Verizon wants it to be LTE, and the only reason not to include it is if there are concerns over maintaining the thin profile since current LTE handsets tend to be a bit bulkier.
SirKronan
Android Expert
It wouldn't hurt my feelings if it had a Tegra 2 or lacked an LTE radio. But I don't see either of those things as very likely at this point. Anything's possible with Verizon, though, and I wouldn't be surprised if they changed up the handset quite a bit before it hits their network, like they did with the Fascinate. Yeah, it was a Galaxy S, but it lacked a considerable amount of internal memory and any type of video output. It did have a flash which improved the indoor photo quality quite a bit, though.
My next phone needs to have video output. I really hope that the SGS2 manages to provide this to consumers somehow. And I hope it will do video output without needing a stupid dock. It already will not have microHDMI, but rumors say the microUSB to HDMI thing should work, and that it will even support charging back through that same cable. I hope this turns out to be correct, and that whatever iteration of SGS2 makes it to Berizon is not lacking this ability.
Apparently LTE doesn't work on Tegra 2 devices (not sure about the Moto Atrix 4G, is that LTE or just HSPA+, which I consider 3G (or 3.5G or 3G+, depending on marketing)). That might narrow the US version down to Tegra 2 without 4G or Exynos possibly with LTE.
The MircoUSB port has MHL (Mobile High-Definition Link) so with an adaptor, an HDMI cable can be used and it will charge. I saw on one preview that it has to be charging when you use HDMI, probably the extra power is needed. Whether or not the adaptor is included remains to be seen.
The MircoUSB port has MHL (Mobile High-Definition Link) so with an adaptor, an HDMI cable can be used and it will charge. I saw on one preview that it has to be charging when you use HDMI, probably the extra power is needed. Whether or not the adaptor is included remains to be seen.
SirKronan
Android Expert
Berizon will probably have Samsung remove that feature in order to accommodate their large LTE hardware. I hope not. I really want a phone with HDMI out.
The Atrix supports HSDPA with up to 14.4 Mbit/s. That's still sort of kind of 3.5G really. But honestly, 5 megs is enough to stream high definition TV, and with a capable phone w/mirroring you could theoretically output to an HD display via HDMI. Do we really need more than that on a phone? I honestly would rather have our jump in speeds go from 3 meg speeds to like 6 meg speeds (twice as fast as what I have now), but without sacrificing battery life or making a gigantic and bulky device. I currently just am not willing to go to AT&T to get it, as they are overall horrible. Berizon is trying hard to be nearly as bad, but they still win handily in the coverage map. Sprint currently is the only one I see really striving to give customers more for their $$$ in terms of coverage, speed, data, and even customer service.