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Root [Virgin Mobile] Whats the newest modem I can flash without getting KNOX?

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FatalIll

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My S3 is currently on L710VPUBMK5, I see a lot of things about ND8 and all these other newer modems and firmwares but I don't even know where to begin. Is there any newer modems & firmware that won't give me KNOX?

Thanks.
 
Modems will not give you knox. Bootloaders will. You should check and see if you have knox. Read the sticky concerning knox, and it will answer all your questions.
 
upconvert said:
Modems will not give you knox. Bootloaders will. You should check and see if you have knox. Read the sticky concerning knox, and it will answer all your questions.
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I already know about KNOX, and I don't have KNOX on MK5 at this current time. My main question here is whats the newest update possible that won't give me KNOX.
 
The newest modem you can use without Knox is MK5. However the mk5 firmware has Knox so you would only want the modem. The last firmware that didn't contain Knox was MG2.

If you want ND8/NDC or newer you're stuck with Knox.
 
If your phone upgraded or came with MK5 you have knox. Knox bootloader was first introduced with MK5. However, there are the Rooted STOCK roms you can ODIN. However, I think on XDA there are Modem only installs for newer modems. But from what I have seen, it is best to ODIN a stock rom and then re-root/ re-mod
 
Knox is seriously no big deal. My niece just got a warranty replacement from vm with Knox tripped. It really has no effect.
 
Madbat said:
Knox is seriously no big deal. My niece just got a warranty replacement from vm with Knox tripped. It really has no effect.
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Is totally correct. It is only an issue if your company uses KNOX and you are required to have it on your phone or you are working for the government. But at that point you most likely wouldn't be in these forums trying to mod your phone. I mistakenly took the MK5 update after I had bought an original S3 that Best Buy had in some dark corner. I got home and it did two OTA updates. I figured... Updates?!?! Sure, my computer needs them. Then I came here and discovered KNOX. I continued to MOD as I knew I didn't need the KNOX flag to be unflipped.
 
I assure you I don't have KNOX. I used the KNOX-free MK5 when I first got the phone, it was posted here and on XDA. No KNOX, never had KNOX, never will have KNOX. KNOX is a very big deal when its tripped and then bricks your phone to a nice little paperweight, no warranty or replacement coverage for that... Thanks for the responses.
 
FatalIll said:
I assure you I don't have KNOX. I used the KNOX-free MK5 when I first got the phone, it was posted here and on XDA. No KNOX, never had KNOX, never will have KNOX. KNOX is a very big deal when its tripped and then bricks your phone to a nice little paperweight, no warranty or replacement coverage for that... Thanks for the responses.
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The only way Knox will brick you is trying to downgrade firmware. I never downgrade.
 
Madbat said:
The only way Knox will brick you is trying to downgrade firmware. I never downgrade.
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Last time my phone bricked from KNOX because I hit "Yes" to applying root in Philz recovery after I had completely wiped everything. I don't trust my phone with KNOX again.
 
FatalIll said:
Last time my phone bricked from KNOX because I hit "Yes" to applying root in Philz recovery after I had completely wiped everything. I don't trust my phone with KNOX again.
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Was it a soft brick? I rarely have used the built in apply root in Philz but once when I did, the stock rom would fail to boot. I always just flash an updated version of SuperSu. I bet that Philz screwed something up in the system while applying root or the root was old. Like Madbat said, downgrading will brick your device.
 
alexizawesome said:
Was it a soft brick? I rarely have used the built in apply root in Philz but once when I did, the stock rom would fail to boot. I always just flash an updated version of SuperSu. I bet that Philz screwed something up in the system while applying root or the root was old. Like Madbat said, downgrading will brick your device.
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Nope, hard brick. Like no boot at all, plugging it into PC came up to "QHUSB_DLOAD" which was just terrible.
 
A lot of people have Knox on their phones and are running custom roms and flashing all kinds of stuff every day. I'm sorry you bricked your old phone. Maybe it was a problem with that version of Philz. When rooting with Philz you're better off flashing the SuperSU zip. That way you get the latest version of SuperSU to avoid potential issues.

Here is a write up about Knox over at XDA. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
I'd highly recommend reading it to clear up some of the confusion you have about what Knox is.
 
Last question, So whats the 'safest' update for our phones right now? and how do you go about rooting it?
 
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FatalIll said:
Last question, So whats the 'safest' update for our phones right now? and how do you go about rooting it?
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If you are no longer scared of tripping the knox flag I would say updating to NDC by flashing the NDC tar with Odin would be the way to go. (Thats android 4.4.2 stock IIRC) There is another update that you can get OTA that you should probably avoid.

Root the same way as before, Flash latest version of your recovery with odin. Make a backup of the stock. Then flash custom rom or root the stock one.

PS If you are still using philz you should be using the d2lte version, also double check the upload date/version number as the newest is not in order.
 
hatredg0d said:
If you are no longer scared of tripping the knox flag I would say updating to NDC by flashing the NDC tar with Odin would be the way to go. (Thats android 4.4.2 stock IIRC) There is another update that you can get OTA that you should probably avoid.

Root the same way as before, Flash latest version of your recovery with odin. Make a backup of the stock. Then flash custom rom or root the stock one.

PS If you are still using philz you should be using the d2lte version, also double check the upload date/version number as the newest is not in order.
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That's helpful. And about Philz... https://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/d2lte/ 6.48.4 is the latest, correct?
 
john27 said:
Thanks for the input Madbat, could you elaborate on that please?
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Its not the same as Odin on PC, it works in tandem with recovery. And the main thing, it was never properly updated to work on KitKat (which is clearly stated in the play store listing). But it was even hit and miss on jellybean. I've seen plenty of people brick their phones using it. Its one of those "shortcuts" that is waaay more trouble than its worth. My recommendation, if you're going to use Odin, use Odin for PC.
 
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