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Virtual particles create actual thrust?

This thread makes me feel like Penny listening to the guys "jibber jabber" on Big Bang Theory. :p

She is on fine looking woman. When the Universe put her together, it took its sweet time. I for one, commend the Universe for the creation such a perfect specimen.
 
Newton's laws of motion say that for every action there's an equal and opposite reaction.

He was talking about forces, as he had some odd ideas about action at a distance.

Still, it's not only odd but deeply ironic how profoundly the law of unintended consequences comes into play.
 
I truly believe the best invention / discovery ever to come across man kind - is the laugh! :--D


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But I never heard of the EM drive before... hmm... I love conversations like this... I am a nut case lover when it comes to science... why do you think Saturn has rings around it?

That question is easy to answer - it is also the same reason why there is "harmony" (well... "more" harmony) in our solar system and why there is an asteroid belt - very similar to Saturn and the other gas giants that also have rings but no where near as visible as Saturn .... like the ecliptic plane and all the planets revolve around this imaginary line... thus there being "more harmony"... simply put because of the suns rotation it is wider on the sides... like centrifugal force... thus there is more mass and thus everything "happily" "parks" on this greater force of gravity on the sides...

I think what could be even cooler than the EM drive would be teleportation.

But I sometimes wonder - if something needs to be teleported would it need to be most probably converted into bits and bytes (computers will more than likely be the only way to transport the information so thus need to be (probably) converted into bits and bytes before hand) - would it be then very briefly "destroyed" in an extremely short duration before it is then teleported?

How would it be possible to teleport mass if it is "fragile" or cannot be destroyed?

Can it survive the short or brief destruction?

But if it can be converted into bits and bytes - is it then possible that you can keep it (or yourself) forever stored onto a "digital" or what ever form that is used - then teleportation should surely follow?

How would bits and bytes that are in the form of electrons represent other forms of mass - would it be possible some day?

Would you be then able to keep a copy of yourself on a drive or whatever the form of back up would be?

What if it were truly possible to actually teleport mass from one place to another and also possible to "copy" your own "image" of yourself and teleport yourself to another location at the drop of a hat?

Would not all other forms of transportation be completely useless or totally out gunned?

You can send yourself as an email! :D

Carbon copy yourself LOLZ!!!

xD

And finally...

Will EarlyMon's ridiculously over sized glasses ever have a hope of becoming smaller someday? - so that we can see what he actually looks like???

Will I ever get off the computer?
 
Saturn and the other outer planets have rings to show off that they like relationships.

I'll know that teleportation has been invented when I hear you laughing behind me when I least expect it.

We'll still need probes or vehicles after inventing transporters because we're going to need a way to discover cool places to transport to, in my opinion.

And I'm back to small glasses.

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But you can't see me in them because I haven't learned how to post a selfie yet. :D
 
teleportation...

converting something into an electronic form..
send over some connection..
then reconvert it back to matter on the other end.

or

break down the matter down to some subatomic plan/pattern..
then send this map to the other side..
so they can rebuild it.

either way.. you destroy the original mass.
and make a new exact mass on the other side.

so if a person is being transported or beamed up...
the person is killed .. destroyed.
and a NEW person of the exact same copy is created on the other end.

you die.. gone. the soul that is you goes to heaven or wherever..
and a new YOU (not you) goes on in your place! hopefully with a NEW soul.

that is just plan... crazy.
how the F-_K can anyone use that form of transportation??? ewwww.
 
Long before electricity -

"Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world." - Archimedes

The lever and fulcrum were discovered by standing in forest fires getting third degree burns while watching flaming trees drop and flip burning logs at the discoverer.

Then there was that whole inclined plane thing that made the pyramids possible. (Inclined planes were discovered watching wheels roll uphill.)

The Archimedean screw was discovered by drunken ancient Egyptians who couldn't follow a straight line and accidentally wrapped Dad's inclined plane around a pole. Trying to hide the evidence, they tried to twist it in to the remains of a hollow log from a forest fire left with one end standing in the Nile except instead of it going down, water came up and created an unprecedented amount of water in a field during the dry season. Dad declared that they discovered irrigation and that led to a crop surplus.

Watching crocodiles float half-submerged on the Nile led to the discovery of boating.

Again, alcohol was involved when several of them raced out on to Mediterranean in Dad's boat to see what that baby could do running flat out.

It sank, so they discovered that repeating excuses work when they got away with telling Dad that they were just trying to dump the excess grain.

That led to the discovery of bigger boats which then led to the discovery of Southern Europe.

Europeans discovered that with more food being imported that they didn't have to die out and become historically insignificant after all.

From there, large scale international crop trading was discovered and later, double entry bookkeeping in Southern Europe (some place called Italy or Venice or something) and that led to the discovery of international banking.

International banking led to the discovery of bank robbery and bank robbery led to the discovery of affiliated kingdoms, which led to the discovery of the Roman Empire.

The Roman Empire led to the discovery of history, history led to the discovery of time, and enough time passing led to the discovery of spaghetti in China.

The discovery of spaghetti in China led to the discovery that Gallileo liked keeping an eye out for dinner, so he discovered the telescope and rediscovered the excuse, so he told the bankers that it was to watch ships coming in so you could see if they were low or high in the water and fix stock prices in what was later discovered to be insider trading.

Falling over backward after way too much wine, telescope in hand, led Galileo to discover the sky. Further alcohol led to the discovery of moons around Jupiter.

That led to the discovery of imagining how cool it would be to live on Jupiter and watch a bitchload of moons rising and setting - and that's naturally led to the discovery of space travel.

That's how the new rocket motor got started.

All before electricity.

Unless we add in the fact that Egyptians had already discovered the battery but lost it because they forgot to discover the name for electricity.

Did you read the part where electrons are involved in the new motor?

The danged thing practically built itself.

We just had to wait and discover when it was ready to do that.

:)
Egyptians were recording history long before the Roman empire came to be..
 
actually, yes i did. AFTER my post, lol. that was about the point i caught on to the sarcasm. My apologies. the funny part is also that it seems plausible from that point of view.
 
I looooove topics like this! :D

I love these kinds of topics with the greatest and bleeding edge ideas and concepts can hopefully come to life!

You know I was seriously thinking here... this makes me deeply wonder... if people were actually destroyed for however long it would be and some how reconstructed on the other side...

Would there be tons of "The Lazarus Phenomenon" experiences?

Where there are experiences where people have actually died and been brought back to life... and what they claim to see on the "other side"... I wonder what would happen with so many cases?

Just like when some one is resuscitated from death of a heart attack or something along those lines... I wonder... how would people react to being destroyed and then being "reborn"?

Out right backlash and refusal at first?

Interesting thoughts... I wonder what it would be like to lose all thoughts and sight, understanding - just everything for a short or perhaps even an extremely long time?

Very interesting...

I wonder what the back lash or reaction would be like?

 
When I was a small fry and at school and used to talk about such crazy ideas and concepts... there was this one guy that I really liked... we got on well... and when I used to talk about stuff like this in crazy detail he once said:

"Awe whoa bra... Wayne... brother... Wayne... you are one crazy mother ****er bra!"

XD

LOOOOOOL

But above all else... there is one thing I will never forget!

The EarlyMon Drive!

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a constant force (small).. would still eventual speed up to high velocity.
but to leave the earth's gravity.. would there be enough??

This is a space drive. Its advantage is that although you still need to carry a power source and fuel for that, you don't need to carry a propellant as such. It will only ever produce very small acceleration and it will never be used to escape a planet gravity well.
 
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