fixxxer1022
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the development on this phone is really lackluster. why is that?
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Root why no cm7 yet?
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VoidedSaint
Resident Ninja
for what you got as far as rom wise, its actually very good, it seems that alot of attention has gone back to the Droid X, as the bootloader has been owned by 2init, and the reason for the attention on the DX is because it was nearly unhackable, and now we have custom roms and all, the only thing we cant get are kernels, and i would honestly believe the dev team is tryin to crack that, not for the users, but to say they were able to crack an almost uncrackable device.
fixxxer1022
Member
The lack of one specific ROM makes development for the phone lackluster? There are plenty of nice development packages for the Charge. Danalo's Humble, Kejar's Gummy, Nitro's Eclipse, BBCrackman's DarkCharge TQ, and DroidXcon's Altered Beast are just a handful of well developed ROMs for the phone.
If you want CM7 that badly, it's an issue for CM7's developers, not Charge developers in general.
VoidedSaint
Resident Ninja
maybe you should sent a request to the cm7 team to port cm7 over to the charge?
fixxxer1022
Member
i was thinking about it but im sure it's been done already. the dev at rootzwiki seems to have given up so im not expecting it to happen. just sucks there is not more options on this phone. it's way worse than my tbolt was, im already phone shopping tbh but thanx for the responses.
VoidedSaint
Resident Ninja
the droid prime may be coming soon
Nexus Prime - Android Forums
and so far its a huge crowd waiting on it
with alot of very useful information.
but to get a dev on the charge, you have to donate a charge to the dev of the cm7 team, thats usually how it works, like get with a dev, and then try and raise money for him to go out and get one so he can port it over
Nexus Prime - Android Forums
and so far its a huge crowd waiting on it
with alot of very useful information.
but to get a dev on the charge, you have to donate a charge to the dev of the cm7 team, thats usually how it works, like get with a dev, and then try and raise money for him to go out and get one so he can port it over
fixxxer1022
Member
well i cannot donate a charge im afraid lol. i created a thread on the cm7 forums requesting it but by the responses soo far it won't be happening. im not bashing the charge, i guess im just used to constantly modding my phones.
yeah i know about the prime, im not sure if ill buy another samsung after this. ive had no luck on the last 3 ive owned even though the prime looks like a beast of a phone. im also looking into the htc vigor.
i guess the charge was never popular because i had two people turn down a trade for even a dinc2 today.
Chris2183
Member
You are posting in the CM7 thread over on Rootzwiki, you have seen all the reasons.
[WIP] CM7 for Droid Charge
For those who do not frequent Rootzwiki
Its because of they are having trouble with the LTE radio, and that the main developer has some personal things going on that take a much higher priority than porting a ROM.
[WIP] CM7 for Droid Charge
For those who do not frequent Rootzwiki
Its because of they are having trouble with the LTE radio, and that the main developer has some personal things going on that take a much higher priority than porting a ROM.
fixxxer1022
Member
well the hope is another dev can pick up where he left off. the lte cannot be too hard as they have it for the thunderbolt and that phone has data/talk at the same time.
The biggest issue is the radios.. the charge uses a baseband that isnt present in any other phone.. and there is no official gb source either.
Whereas the thundebolt uses a common qualcomm radio..
yourbrokenoven
Lurker
Maybe the cyanogen guys should get together with keyjar who made gummy and ask how he got gingerbread working on the charge...
kyler13
Android Expert
I think you're missing the important point that they didn't "get" it working on the Charge. A few Samsung release candidate GB builds have been leaked from Verizon testers and everything in the dev community right now has been tweaks and customizations of those leaks. For better or worse, you get the bugs/kinks/features at whatever stage the particular ROM is at in the refinement cycle. It has gotten better, but still not there yet.
CM7 is built from scratch using the AOSP code, so it takes A LOT of know-how and porting to any individual device. It's A LOT more work than you might think. The most important step to maybe getting CM7 ported over to the Droid Charge is getting the official GB build released for the Charge. Soon after, the source is made public and gives devs more to work with. Problem is, CyanogenMod is all about getting you on the latest AOSP software before the bloated up carrier version ever comes out. By the time the official build is released, you're better off going with one of the variations from the dev community (the Charge dev community is pretty decent, IMO).
yourbrokenoven
Lurker
I think whAt I have the most trouble understanding is that, you are implying gingerbread hasn't been released yet. There are phones with gingerbread, and android is open source, so the code should be easily available. there should be dozens of roms for the charge. There should be at least a plain vanilla rom.
I didnt realize cyanogen used their own code.thanks for enlightening me.
I didnt realize cyanogen used their own code.thanks for enlightening me.
kyler13
Android Expert
I think whAt I have the most trouble understanding is that, you are implying gingerbread hasn't been released yet. There are phones with gingerbread, and android is open source, so the code should be easily available. there should be dozens of roms for the charge. There should be at least a plain vanilla rom.
I didnt realize cyanogen used their own code.thanks for enlightening me.
No, GB for the Charge has not been released yet. The AOSP code is what comes from Google and that source is readily available to anyone from day one. That's pretty much the core OS. Since hardware obviously varies, there will always be a layer of software between the OS and the hardware, basically driver software. That's where the manufacturer does a lot of work to make sure everything works with the hardware build. That's the source that has not been released by Samsung. The developers work with Samsung's source to fix/tweak/improve things and that's what gets us custom kernels and ROMs to play with in a timely manner.
I am speculating that the Cyanogenmod team uses AOSP software and through experience with previous manufacturer hardware, they have the basic code to work with and build a forward version of Android when it hasn't been supported by the manufacturer yet. I was running GB on my HTC Incredible almost a year ago with CM7 and it was great. I think they have a lot of experience with HTC. Samsung not so much? It could come down to how the code is implemented. Maybe it's cleaner with HTC? The other problem is you have a few years of experience with HSPA and CDMA software builds. LTE/CDMA is a relatively new beast, and from what I've read, it's not cut and dry. There's a lot of difficulty in trying to build GB from scratch due to the CDMA/LTE handoff methods.